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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
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Thanks for the info
All this success for it brings a tear to my eye.
Not just "bad" but "really, really bad" to sell 1M+ units?
Welp.
word to add to the incredibly long list of words era should stop using because they don't know what they mean: momentum
Isn't it also 2nd highest November for ps4, including beating the Pro launch? I guess that's shockingly bad too...
Yeah, it's not so assured that NSW will sell over 2M units in December.
No console has topped 2M units sold in a month in US since 2011 (the last consoles to met such feat were DS and Wii back in December 2010).
I don't think it's the only reason. Sony announced maybe this deal too early, this is why sales during the first two weeks were bad. And I think the price difference between the Spider-Man bundle and other bundles was too much. Why not drop the price of the regular PlayStation 4 to 250$ (or even better, to 200$) ? Why not do a bundle with Red Dead Redemption 2 or Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII for 250$ ?
I think a lot of consumers have waited for the Black Friday deal, but it was out of stock, so they didn't buy anything because the price difference (+100$ and one game less) seems too much for them. Even with the same number of Spider-Man bundles, I think Sony could have done better.
The Xbox One was below both the PlayStation 4 and the Switch during most months of the year, but its results was good because it was up YOY. The best comparison for the PlayStation 4 isn't the Switch or the Xbox One, but the year 2017 of the PlayStation 4. In November, PlayStation 4 is sharply down YOY, both in units and in revenue (and probably in profit) and sales will be probably down YTD at the end of the year.
The fact that PlayStation 4 is down YOY, the year of God of War, Spider-Man and Red Dead Redemption 2 is really bad for Sony. I think they made a lot of mistakes.
You expected it to break 2 million?! What, because Console Wars?
I'm sorry, but this entire post is ridiculous. The PS4 just had a record November and yet this is still bad in its 5 year of sales? No, this is not bad no matter how you try to spin it.
WOW ! So that's very rare indeed !
Crazy to think the Industry is at similar levels of the DS/Wii/360 glory days.
Thanks
The big difference compared to Holiday 2010 is that both DS and Wii sold more than 2M units each in December while XB360 sold relatively close to 2M.
This December will be different.
It will be interesting tto see if the shift in consumers behaviour to favour the deep discounts during Black Friday over purchases in the weeks before Christmas will be confirmed after last year (XBO and PS4 sold less in December than in November in 2017).
How does it sit for the competition, how does Xbox and Nintendo performance rank against previous Novembers for them?
I understand Sony controlled how many Spider-Man bundles were sold. I guess the narrative here is Sony performed exactly how they wanted to perform and they didn't want any more sales?
Compared to last November:
YoY:
Switch: +75%
3DS: -39%
PS4: -13%
XBO: -3%
Other: -6%
XBO was the biggest surprise for me.
So how bad are the numbers for Hitman 2? I see its not in the top 20 and the Pal charts suggest that it has underperformed.
Hi john, can you PLEASE tell how much God of War did this month?
The narrative is that regardless what happens in December PS4 had an excellent year (surely among the best), XBO yearly sales will be up compared to 2017 to my big surprise and Switch will also be up but it's still unclear how high because it's the console that has the most potential for December.
"Narrative". Lol It's really bothering some of you that Sony had a historic November huh?
Nobody with any level of common sense is buying that line right?
Sony would love to sell more consoles and certainly wouldn't control the total sales through artificial shortage. That's nonsense.
It's not a shortage per se, but the Spider-Man bundles were limited and they could've made more I guess?
Or at least they could've been a little more aggressive with the other PS4 models, like when the Spider-Man bundle was done the only other option was a $300 plain slim. They could've dropped the Black ops 4 bundle at $250.
Yeah because almost selling 1.5 million is not big enough so fans need to make up a narrative? Lol.
The PS4 momentum has all gen been in the worldwide sales gap and it continues to be. The November difference between PS4 and XB1 is about in line with the LTD difference percentage wise. All this talk about Xbox comeback would be more valuable if it was evidenced in worldwide data instead of being based on misconceptions that they have been outsold 2 to 1 in the US all gen and then feinting surprise when seeing the same ~10% sales difference that it's been this entire gen.
Sure they always want more sales, but not for $199 console+game at this point in time. That promotional stock is always based on calculations.
Nearly 3 consoles over 2 millions ? We're not there yet I guess.
But in December, I really want to see the Switch potential. Can it get close to 2.5 million. I think 2 million is a lock right ?
What is it surprising? Most powerful hardware branded xbox sell good in US. That's quite predictable.
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I see a lot of people responding to my posts with SOny sold out of spider-man bundles so they sold exactly what they wanted of that SKU. WHat happens if they didn't have that $200 dollar deal on? they would have been severely down compared to the competition?!
What happens if they didn't have any Black Friday promotions? That's a silly speculation.
I expected a bigger decline YoY.
There is no "2M lock" in my mind at the moment.
It really isn't in many ways, weren't they cheaper than the one s? a historically poorly performing console.
I would love to know how many units the X sold compared to the S. It obviously puts it behind the switch in revenue but it must have been a lot.
Sony had a great month, like many have said. Record breaking. It looks like they were the cheapest out of the three though and if they didn't have as crunchy of a deal they would have probably been third.
Would you say the age of Sony is over?
The age of Sony would probably be over sooner than we thought.
PS4 is pushing a permanent cut to $199 anyway, having been at $299/399 so long and still competing (even outselling a brand new console globally) is quite strong.
Cyber Monday is missing from December sales this year and Nintendo had a way stronger November which may lead to softer December sales. Slightly up over last year (which was 1.6 million) is a reasonable prediction but 2 million is in no way a lock.
I don't understand what you are arguing, both consoles were being sold for $199, even the 1X had a promotion I believe.
You realize Sony couldn't care less what the competition does at this point right? This is all about their own company and their profits as they are beholden to the investors, not Nintendo and MS. The fact that 5 years after it first released, the PS4 managed to have one of the biggest Novembers in history is insane enough, but now it's a narrative because you are introducing baseless speculation? Ok.
Do you really think Sony care if they are third? Do you see they even moving a finger to try not be third in December? PS4 is approachung 100M console sales, in the grand scheme of things this is completely irrelevant
Well, I for one am glad that we all seem to be in agreement that "artificial scarcity" arguments are always complete nonsense.
What happens if Sony didn't have that PS4 created? They surely would've been severely down compared to the competition?!
Haaaa man I see why you guys hang around sales-age now. Let me get some snacks, brb.
I think the sentiment is "profit was priority".
When will we get a new update on Switch and PS hardware sales?
Always the same shit from the same people lol
Always the same shit from the same people lol
Consoles are flying and there are some very sensitive people it seems. Looks like if you aren't completely down with the record breaking sales of all consoles then you are against them.
There's nothing wrong with thinking the PS4 would have sold more, from all the hype about the spider-man bundle. I don't know what the one s pricing was like, but I do know that the xbox one before the X was getting trounced.
There's nothing wrong with thinking the PS4 would have sold more, from all the hype about the spider-man bundle. I don't know what the one s pricing was like, but I do know that the xbox one before the X was getting trounced.
You realize everyone has Black Friday deals, right? And the one that sold the fastest was the Spider-Man bundle.
Like you said, expectations were high for a big November from Sony given the Spiderman bundle. Instead we find all 3 basically neck and neck.
Surprising finish. Good month for Sony and great month for Switch and Xbox given expectations.