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(Now Deleted) WRC 9 Preview hints deep integration of games with the PS5 OS.
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You boot up your PS5 and you have an icon that says "Gran Turismo - Daily Race starts in 3 minutes"; you click on it and you're directly in the lobby picking your car, ready to start the online race.
It basically bypasses the need to boot the games to access specific modes/sections. The idea would be that you could choose what you want in your home screen.
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In this case you don't have to enter the game to join a race.
But this can apply in different scenarios, both in SP or MP games, for example, in a fighting game you could choose your character in the OS and enter the game while searching for an online match already with your chosen character, without having to navigate through the menus.
Yeah, this was something teased in that Wired article last year:
This is kind of a big deal. I doubt it will work for any backwards compat games and I heavily doubt most games will have this feature but I can only pray. It definitely puts the PS5 back in my radar for a possible day one purchase...but I still have my reservations.
Good that this developer is taking the first step into implementing it.
We've heard this before, though this is a little extra nugget of detail on how that feature can work.
It's one of the reasons why I don't think it's necessary for Sony to reserve space on the PS5's SSD for RAM states. Theoretically every game should be able to boot itself and directly load a standard game save file within some acceptably small amount of time.
I think most games will end up showing the logos on first startup and then maybe only on rare occasions in future. It may be that as a consequence, the logos that appear the first time appear for longer or something, to balance out the reduction in the number of times they'll be seen.
It's one of the reasons why I don't think it's necessary for Sony to reserve space on the PS5's SSD for RAM states. Theoretically every game should be able to boot itself and directly load a standard game save file within some acceptably small amount of time.
I think once a few games start using it and it's clear to players how fast it is to get to an arbitrary point in the game, it'll start becoming standard.
It's already possible for players to get around those this generation - you can boot up a game and (assuming your console doesn't crash) play through it and suspend every time you're done - you'll see the logos and such just once.
I think most games will end up showing the logos on first startup and then maybe only on rare occasions in future. It may be that as a consequence, the logos that appear the first time appear for longer or something, to balance out the reduction in the number of times they'll be seen.
PS4 > Call of Duty: Modern Warfare > Press Any Button > Multiplayer > Team Deathmatch
PS5 > Team Deathmatch
it'd be kool if you could que for a match, and a little window pops up on the UI but you stay in the OS. As soon as the match starts you are taken into the game.
i would love if they had something built in where people could make their own shortcuts, like if the API allows for the game to allow for that where they expose the modes to users etc and make their own. but prob may not be the case, or the system sees and tracks certain activities you do and suggests shortcuts for you.
Pretty cool possibilities there. I'll be interested to see what devs actually do with it. I can also see it becoming one of those neat sounding features that falls by the wayside after the launch year if devs never bother to implement it.
At the minute if you want to play a specific multiplayer game or mode you have to load up the game, go into multiplayer and then do a search for your preferred option before joining it.
The implication here is that you can see what modes/rounds are about to start from the console's home screen, press a button and within a couple of seconds (with the speed of the SSD) you can be straight into the lobby of a game that's about to begin. For a lot of games that could turn a 2-4 minute process from launching the game to actually playing into just a few seconds.
A hypothetical example would be if you were to play Factions in TLoU. At the minute you have to load up the game, choose 'Factions' go into that, go through the matchmaking process and then wait for the game to load up so you can actually start playing. In theory with this you could see what rounds/maps are about to start in the next 30 seconds from the OS, choose it and be in the lobby ready for the game to start shortly in a matter of seconds. It could turn multiplayer into a casual drop-in/drop-out activity when you have a few spare minutes.
This! for me lol
I was just bout booting up apex and i literally imagined this scenario, Straight into Firing range from startup so i can warm up a lot more in between sessions
The only thing that would hold this back if implemented, from being 5 seconds into a game has to be matchmaking?
It will probably be sorted under the game tab and just be a selection you can make.
Not crazy at all. That is always the most interesting part of a new console launch for me. The games will come in time
It comes down to ease. Potentially:
You see your friend playing Call of Duty online. You press a single button to join his game without even starting up the game.
You're playing Skyrim, and maybe you could load your save instantly with quests showing up in the OS.
I hope they put a lot of resources into making this load instantly. I feel like more often than not the PS4 "game info" pages or whatever you call them that fetch remote content from the developer/publisher takes ages to load.
The QoL improvements should be huge. This is a great example of one.
And you can imagine all of these instant join/switch/load will push us toward Digital Edition PS5... without the need to exchange discs.
Evil Sony plan will work at $399...😏
My expectation was that there will be some system level hooks to jump right into doing specific things with minimal friction similar to how easy it it is to jump in to play Destiny with friends for example.
Having API hooks to be able to offer it as a feature for every game (if it makes sense for the game), and an ultra fast SSD to kill almost any wait times (bar networking) would be an excellent feature/experience though.
Having API hooks to be able to offer it as a feature for every game (if it makes sense for the game), and an ultra fast SSD to kill almost any wait times (bar networking) would be an excellent feature/experience though.
I think that sounds exactly like the kind of thing that's possible. The system itself won't know how to handle any particular game, so it'll rely on the games to create these integration points and expose them to the system. That should allow games to let players create them too.
Remember as well that there's a patent that suggests that players will be able to share game states with other players. That would likely use this mechanism (and also be one of the reasons why the Share button was renamed the Create button).
That sounds great but what about disc-based games? Will it ask you to insert the disc first or will there be a change so the disc in the drive isn't needed anymore?
When will Sony finally reveal the UI and deep dive into the rest of the hardware? Microsoft has already done it, so it's not like they're still playing a game of chicken, like with the price.
That's the plan. Unfortunately, it will be something third parties have to embrace. However, seeing that WRC is third party, at least one is. If Sony makes it easy enough to integrate with the OS, they hopefully should.
You will pretty much have to insert the disc, almost a guarantee. It's an incentive to go digital.
In addition to being convenient and fast, if they really develop this thoroughly it makes an incredibly strong case for buying digital over physical. Smart stuff.
edit: beaten by transistor (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
edit: beaten by transistor (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
My sleep deprived early morning brain was reading "choose and enter a race directly from the console" as if Sony had implemented system-level ethnicity selection for some bizarre reason 😴.
This reminds me a bit of how Steam let you view the Counter-Strike/Half-Life server list and launch directly into matches from the Steam client itself.
This reminds me a bit of how Steam let you view the Counter-Strike/Half-Life server list and launch directly into matches from the Steam client itself.
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Yeah, you nailed it. If devs embrace this widely, it could redefine how people play multiplayer games (probably less useful for single player stuff).
They have a clear plan, believe in it, and deliver consistent and focused message. So far the only "misstep" was the Road to PlayStation 5 video (even though I like it), but it was due to Covid-19. Sony marketing for PS5 has been really good so far, no wonder they're so confident with ramping up production prior to launch. And you know they're so good especially after you compared it with Xbox's marketing.
Even SP games would benefit. With GoT I have to boot up the game them select continue. With this I can just select continue game on the os screen.
My thoughts exactly! If this is implemented intuitively and nearly then I'm all for this. Stuff like this, instant resume, quick load times are my most looked forward to aspects of this upcoming gen
I really hope they show the PS5 UI in the next event. That boot screen in the last one was such a tease.
Came to point this out, yeah. Unfortunately the whole "Agent Smith your way into this online match/level" idea can't work when the PS4 takes 2-3 minutes to load a game. Can't wait for that low-friction fast-loading SSD experience.
I'm hoping there'll be an extra impetus with the speed of loading, aswell. When load times could be in the minutes before, the extra time spent booting a game or navigating menus in-game might have seemed incremental. When load times can be low seconds or less, those 'cruft' activities start to become an outsized part of the equation.
So I'm hoping there'll be a big push on this. And I've a feeling it might also be in the developers' interests from a discoverability/engagement point of view - if the OS surfaces activities to the user in a very prominent way, or it becomes a big focal point for people in the UI, you'll want your game to be able to plug into that and offer people stuff to do, I'd guess. Doubly so if you have designs on your game being part of PSNow or streamable - this kind of stuff seems perfect for PSNow going forward. It won't hurt your game in that context to be as low-friction as possible to get to actual gameplay.
Pity. That would be a little but big thing if they could do that. Fully installing games to the HDD but still needing the disc in has always niggled. I get why but hoped they could come up with a solution.
Can't see myself going full digital any time soon given how it works and operates right now.
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Ironically, that was the vision for the OG Xbox One, but it also comes with the "no used games / online license checks" caveat
yeah that video was more for the technical folks, vs the layman there. but ever since then they have been very deliberate and methodical with their messaging, and i know a lot of us hate how quiet they are but I think in these times you absolutely have to be precise in messaging since less people can get their actual hands on things right now.