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To play devil's advocate, the same would likely be true if you broke out the individual parts of Chile, Brazil, etc. If a country is doing poorly, it's likely that much of it is doing poorly. A better measure would be breaking out the absolute cases, not per capita.
I should be clearer, I don't mean the R0, I mean the daily number of cases. It stays at around 80 to 85.
It won't be in the official statement, but it is what Van Ranst and the likes have been saying.
Alright, I'll take your word for it :) Good development regardless of reasoning, of course.
Per capita comparisons is the only real way to compare severity and disproportionality across geographies of different population sizes. That's why mortality rates, arrest rates, jail rates, etc. are all calculated in per capita rates. Otherwise the trends are masked.
And in this case, large states that are doing well now (like NY) bring down national per capita rates and mask how poorly other states are doing.
Honestly the study is worthless. It's hard to say that kids don't catch and spread it when they literally note that you couldn't get tested basically in Sweden unless you were hospitalized. Frankly that ruins the entire study and just because testing was garbage across the board doesn't mean it makes the study valid. The only thing you can really say is that yes children and less likely to develop serious complicationsI've seen a lot of debate hear about opening schools during the pandemic so thought you might find this interesting: joint study by the health officials of Finland and Sweden about the effects.
Covid-19 in schoolchildren – A comparison between Finland and Sweden
In conclusion, closure or not of schools has had little if any impact on the number of laboratory confirmed cases in school aged children in Finland and Sweden. The negative effects of closing schools must be weighed against the positive effects, if any, it might have on the mitigation of the...www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se
The setting for the study was pretty optimal since as you might now, Finland and Sweden are pretty comparable in many ways (culture, population size*, population density), but we in Finland shut down schools for most of Spring in March while Sweden kept them completely open.
The conclusion is as follows: Closure or not of schools has had little if any impact on the number of laboratory confirmed cases in school aged children in Finland and Sweden. The negative effects of closing schools must be weighed against the positive effects, if any, it might have on the mitigation of the covid-19 pandemic. The whole thing is available as PDF, recommend you read it for more details (personally didn't read it yet).
*) Sweden's population is roughly twice the Finnish population but it's still in the same ballpark compared to some larger European countries
that's the flaw in this study but there are many other countries that had the same experience once they reopened schools. Qualifier on everything but this Sweden study is that you don't open schools when you have an uncontrolled spread going on.
As is general with these conversations in the US. It's large country and there is no one size fits all answer where people tend to focus on the worst areas and ignore others and use that to make sweeping generalizations.
I agree that it's the best way to compared places! However, breaking apart a place by regions does nothing to help compare the severity. To use an example: if a city has a 5% per capita infection rate, then breaking it into 10 districts that each also have between 4 to 6% infection rates shows nothing of value if compared to external entities. It is useful to compare internally.
Virginia spiked up to +943 cases today when we'd previously been having the 600-ish range, plus or minus 100. I'm really hoping if this is a trend that Northam has the the political courage to actually move the state, or at least regions of the state, back to early, more restrictive phases. Hampton Roads area has been spiking up for a week so it's a prime candidate, though I'm sure the stupid beach businesses will cry foul.
I think most of the conversation surrounds opening schools in areas with widespread uncontrolled spread. The Sweden study is often pointed to the only place that had uncontrolled spread with schools open. The problem is the study literally notes they weren't testing mild cases. That completely negates proof that kids didn't transmit it. Yes they didn't develop serious complications but what about teachers, parents, grandparents that would be in contact with those kids.
Honesty there are tons of other factors to take into consideration also. The average school size in the US is significantly bigger than in Sweden. I'm imagining the class size is also bigger in the US.
Bottom line the study is garbage and shouldn't be used in discussions about whether we should open schools. If we have better non garbage studies then let's use those
Sure however one thing is most US states are country sized geographically and population wise. so its kinda easier to compare states to countries (same is true for brazil,india and china). I gives a better sense of things and how the epidemic is managed. No method is perfect but it shows how it goes in the area you live.
Right, if there is uncontrolled spread pretty much everything should be closed and that obviously includes schools. If the R0 is below 1 and contact tracing can be reliably done, that's a different conversation.
Where do you go from there? How can you even control anything if 1 out of 3 is positive. Without a stop to economic activity it will infect everyone in no time
Especially when you consider the lag in infections due to infection period. Soon it will be 50% if nothing changes. It would likely stay around 15-30% even if they did a shut down like in April. Probably need a full 2 month shut down (what should have happened earlier) but they won't do it. So basically the government shut down for 6 weeks, the poor got inflicted with a huge burden while big businesses and the stock market got trillions.
Apparently CityMD the biggest urgent care chain in NYC, administered about 314,000 antibody tests in New York City, as of June 26. Citywide, 26 percent of the tests came back positive. That's very similar to the NY DOH study.
And that was in a period where testing was EXTREMELY limited. Basically only people who had serious symptoms and had known contact with COVID were able to get tested for a big period of time there..
I've gotten tested at CityMD and according to the paperwork, they use the Abbott test that's analyzed by Quest.
Oh nice, that's good to hear.
Quest has to have an absolute treasure trove of data with all those antibody tests they've run. Wish I could get a peak.
Yeah, I think that it means a few things.
NYC hasn't reached herd immunity, or is even close. But with the worst hit neighborhood (Corona, Queens) testing as high as 68 percent for antibodies, the virus spread his definitely slowed down. Even with a bias that is an absolutely alarming rate.
68% Have Antibodies in This Clinic. Can a Neighborhood Beat a Next Wave? (Published 2020)
Data from those tested at a storefront medical office in Queens is leading to a deeper understanding of the outbreak’s scope in New York.
more evidence that the sars-cov2 virus is a cardiovascular one?
edition.cnn.com
Pathologist found blood clots in 'almost every organ' during autopsies on Covid-19 patients | CNN
Autopsies on people who died of the coronavirus are helping doctors understand how the disease affects the body -- and one of the most remarkable findings concerned blood clotting, a pathologist says.
edition.cnn.com
NJ Daily Numbers:
+367 new cases (174628 total)
+31 deaths (13532 total)
Rate of Transmission back down under 1
+367 new cases (174628 total)
+31 deaths (13532 total)
Rate of Transmission back down under 1
At best, I would think that there was a error in the test.
If you already went through the infection, you should be presenting IgG, not IgM. And in the strange occurence that you got reinfected, you should be producing both, because of the memories left behind from the initial infection and the ones that would naturally be produced anew the first 7 after the infection.
The other possibility is that because of the continuing symptoms, the inmune system is producing IgM in higher quantities to try and detect what is causing to initiate the inmune response, and it is just an issue with the sample they took for the test only presenting IgM.
Gov Dewine in OH isn't supposed to have a conference scheduled until next Tuesday.
Today we learned that there was over 1500 new cases confirmed in Ohio.
Today we learned that there was over 1500 new cases confirmed in Ohio.
NJ Daily Numbers:
+367 new cases (174628 total)
+31 deaths (13532 total)
Rate of Transmission back down under 1
Dude I panicked I thought the rate of transmission was at 2.23% at first when I read the wrong graph lmao
There's no justice in this world, the people depicting him as a Nazi on Twitter and those arguing, essentially, in favor of the virus will never see any punishment that doesn't also hit innocent people. I don't know what it will take to convince the morons that were initially programmed by Fox News to care.
Chile Update July 10th
+ 3.058 new positives, 309.274 total, 346.674 with probable cases
+ 99 new deaths,
+ 17.727 reported tests, 1.255.359 total
- 17.3% daily positivity, 24,6% total positivity
General improvement, specially for the capital.
The elefant in the room is being addressed by part of the scientific community: the 4.000 death toll difference
+ 3.058 new positives, 309.274 total, 346.674 with probable cases
+ 99 new deaths,
- 6.781 total by govt numbers
- 7.735 total by Health Statistics Department
- 10.837 total with probable cases, reported to the WHO
+ 17.727 reported tests, 1.255.359 total
- 17.3% daily positivity, 24,6% total positivity
General improvement, specially for the capital.
The elefant in the room is being addressed by part of the scientific community: the 4.000 death toll difference
Yeah Lol, if that happened I would have been a lot more panicky in my post.
Masks seem pretty widespread in CT, anecdotally, at least.
You're in NC, right? Whereabouts? In Durham, people have been pretty good about wearing masks indoors (except Home Depot/and Lowes, still awful there), but we've pretty much had a mask mandate since things really started kicking off.
Cases haven't been rising here as much as other states, but the positivity rate remains pretty damn high and hospitalizations are steadily increasing, as is the 7-day rolling average for new cases. Testing remains a huge barrier, especially in underserved communities and given there's still a 5-6 day wait for test results. But I work for DHHS and review the state-wide hospitalization data daily, so I'm generally pretty anxious about the state of things here. One of the regions in particular is in pretty bad shape considering the % of beds available. :(
Not going to happen but I would love to make the anti mask anti socially distance people sign a hypothetical waiver accepting responsibility for their actions saying neither them nor their families cannot receive medical treatment if they contract COVID. I wonder how many would agree to those terms?
Virginia Beach, Virginia actually.
For our little pocket of the region we had the most cases the last I checked, but it was never many compared to other states. I work in healthcare IT myself, so I routinely "sit in" on the weekly meetings where cases and hospital load in our network is discussed. We did really well, and continue to do well, even though we had to basically transform a section of our largest hospital into a lab capable of handling COVID-19 testing early on in the epidemic (this was mostly to handle tests coming in from Northern Virginia).
Our network has a hospital in NC but I am not sure where they stand. I don't speak with my counterpart there often, and they never integrated well after we acquired them a few years back - they thought we would take their jorbs, so some of their leadership never gelled well with us. Instead, we gave them new titles, raises, and access to the latest and greatest tech. *shrug* What are ya gonna do?
I got gasoline for the first time in 4 months due to WFH. Stopped by the gas station after picking up my food. Man I was nervous lol. I wore my mask, and I also had Clorox wipes with me in the car, so I used a wipe as a sort of glove while touching the pump. Immediately afterwards I doused my hands in hand sanitizer I keep in my glove compartment and when I went home I washed my hands.
That was anxiety-inducing to say the least!
That was anxiety-inducing to say the least!
Multiple states not taking appropiate measures even after seeing what has happened in NY is baflling. Do they thought that they would be magically spared?