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It is really high, it means likely, a lot of cases aren't being caught.
It really is high, we like to think that we are testing a lot, but in reality the situation is bad. I mean with a 37.7% positive rate we are at Nº9 in total positive cases yet we are only a less than 20 million population country.
It's also due to "quarantine" being anything but. This is the subway in the morning. Millions of "essential" workers everyday in the capital, that has around 40% of positive rate (it's super easy for a company to "prove" they are essential and it's in their criteria who has to be there or not. Also, basically there is no safety net and unemployment is so high that everyone's afraid of losing their jobs)
Portugal:
38.089 confirmed cases.
+ 417 since yesterday. 1.1% growth. [ 325 of which just in Lisbon]
1.523 deaths.
+ 1 since yesterday.
24.010 recoveries.
+ 421 since yesterday.
416 people hospitalised.
- 19 since yesterday.
67 in the ICU.
- 2 since yesterday.
38.089 confirmed cases.
+ 417 since yesterday. 1.1% growth. [ 325 of which just in Lisbon]
1.523 deaths.
+ 1 since yesterday.
24.010 recoveries.
+ 421 since yesterday.
416 people hospitalised.
- 19 since yesterday.
67 in the ICU.
- 2 since yesterday.
That's so unfortunate, truly :(.
Also, it seems to be the case: Beijing is entering a second wave.
wow, they better lockdown Beijing quick, isn't it bigger than Wuhan?
Interesting new report. tl;dr masks are more effective than social distancing and washing your hands as a means of stopping the virus
www.pnas.org
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...
www.pnas.org
Interesting new report. tl;dr masks are more effective than social distancing and washing your hands as a means of stopping the virus
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...
This is only a good thing, as it means we have an easy tool to combat the spread without having to lock all the way down.
now if only we can get our governments to mandate them
Principal confirmed during our staff meeting today that we have no plans as of yet on how we'll return next year and committees are just starting now to figure it out. Makes sense, so no idea what will happen.
Oh my god.
That's a lot of farmers that tested positive. /DeSantis
Government mandating does fuck-all is people and especially business don't follow guidelines.
Isn't this just saying that social distancing in public alone isn't enough and wearing masks on top of that is the most effective? That's my reading of it. Basically it's saying mask wearing is the biggest factor but it's saying that you need to combine that with distancing and quarantine and contact tracing, etc.Interesting new report. tl;dr masks are more effective than social distancing and washing your hands as a means of stopping the virus
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...
has anyone here who works from home argued with their HR dept in order to stay home?
i'm worried that as soon as bullshit phase 2 starts in nyc, the company i work for will be asking everyone to return to the office, and i do not want to go back until there's a possibility of this thing being cleared. nyc transportation is fucking insane and i just feel like i'm guaranteed to get it.
i'm worried that as soon as bullshit phase 2 starts in nyc, the company i work for will be asking everyone to return to the office, and i do not want to go back until there's a possibility of this thing being cleared. nyc transportation is fucking insane and i just feel like i'm guaranteed to get it.
Not sure what is happening there. Weirdly they only closed down the schools. Bars and restaurants remain open, which, uh, doesn't make any sense to me. Schools contribute very little to spread and closing them shuts down the economy way more.
To be fair, Germany and Italy basically stopped testing and the US is testing more than ever before.
I never imagined the US would try to "ignore" the virus away.
It's clearly working.
I think disneyland Paris is reopening soon.
I just received a mail that asks to do an online training about how to deal with covid at work (I work there from time to time)
I just received a mail that asks to do an online training about how to deal with covid at work (I work there from time to time)
Where do you get that from?
Per current daily situation report from Robert Koch Institut Germany is constantly doing between 300.000 - 400.000 tests every week since march.
Positivity rate is going down every week.
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Sorry, I meant that they are not testing at nearly the level the US is, US is doing 500k a day(which would be the equivalent around 150k a day in Germany)
I feel like at this point there needs to be a separation of states in these. Many blue states early on did a good job of containing and stop a quick spread, unfortunately red states have been botching shit up. I'm curious what a state-by-state breakdown looks like.
I never imagined the US would try to "ignore" the virus away.
It's clearly working.
Fresh Air with Terry Gross had a Covid-19 discussion yesterday with Michael Osterholm, the founder and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/8792...g-an-expert-explains-how-to-assess-covid-risk
A few things really stood out to me:
On transmitting/catching the virus:
70% of the population is 209 million
Assuming we're already at 180,000 deaths now at 7% of the population affected...
180,000 x 10 = 1.8 million dead total before herd immunity
So if we're underestimating/hiding bodies by a third, when the official numbers say 1.2 million we'll be there
Don't forget that at some point we will probably see exponential growth again so it'll probably take less time than that. Once a certain percentage of the population is infected it will be impossible not to get exposed.
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/8792...g-an-expert-explains-how-to-assess-covid-risk
A few things really stood out to me:
On transmitting/catching the virus:
70% of the population is 209 million
Assuming we're already at 180,000 deaths now at 7% of the population affected...
180,000 x 10 = 1.8 million dead total before herd immunity
So if we're underestimating/hiding bodies by a third, when the official numbers say 1.2 million we'll be there
Don't forget that at some point we will probably see exponential growth again so it'll probably take less time than that. Once a certain percentage of the population is infected it will be impossible not to get exposed.
I mean to be completely fair, blue states got hit far worse
I think a problem was a lot of red states locking down a bit too soon, if only because case counts weren't really that high enough, so people got bored of the lockdown in combination of the fact it never really hit hard in their area - so it fueled belief the virus isn't a big deal or it's "fake" etc. Now they are opening up too fast, and the virus has spread throughout the country enough that interstate travel means people are flocking to these opened states from their locked down ones (huge problem here in AZ with people coming from CA), causing exponential growth.
When we all started locking down there was a massive pressure for all states to follow suit, which at the time felt appropriate due to fear and whatnot. But tbh it was probably a mistake, focus should have been on restricting interstate travel and phased lockdowns. We can't just throw down full lockdowns whenever we want, and many states used that lifeline way too soon.
When shockingly high excess deaths are dishonestly classified as due to "pneumonia", why believe a word anyone says about the actual number of cases and deaths being LOWER?
At this point, Germany doesn't have enough suspected cases anymore to test 150k people. Being able to stop testing is also a show of control.
I completely agree with this, especially living in NC. We locked down really early when cases were low and stable; we started opening back up in May when cases were stable and now everything is fucked (although not quite as fucked as TX, AZ, FL and CA). People got tired of it and now that things are getting worse, no one seems to care. Only TWO counties in the entire state have mandates making masks a requirement and even then it's not enforced. I have no idea how NC is going to slow the spread now and that really scares me.
NJ Daily Numbers:
+442 new cases (168107 total)
+38 deaths (12800 total)
Re-Opening News:
Positivity under 3%
Rate of Transmission still well under 1
Hospitalization data seems to be back in line today, another drop.
+442 new cases (168107 total)
+38 deaths (12800 total)
Re-Opening News:
Positivity under 3%
Rate of Transmission still well under 1
Hospitalization data seems to be back in line today, another drop.
Bulletin for the
French situation for the 18/06:
158641 confirmed cases + 467 in 24H
hospital:
10125 hospitalized -142 in 24 H (136 entries)
752 in intensive care -20 in 24 H (15 entries)
19146 dead + 28 in 24 H
Care homes:
37901 cases
10457 dead
Total 29603 deaths +28 in 24H
Hospital graphs
ICU entries:
French situation for the 18/06:
158641 confirmed cases + 467 in 24H
hospital:
10125 hospitalized -142 in 24 H (136 entries)
752 in intensive care -20 in 24 H (15 entries)
19146 dead + 28 in 24 H
Care homes:
37901 cases
10457 dead
Total 29603 deaths +28 in 24H
Hospital graphs
ICU entries:
Chile Update June 18th
+ 4.475 new positives, 225.103 total
+ 226 new deaths, 3.841 total
+ 1.845 in ICU, 399 critical, 353 ventilators avaliables
+ 16.997 reported tests, 903.166 total
Had a reduction in daily positive rate (26.1%).
Death toll reporting is a cumulative of several days, but the official report indicates that the record of deaths in 24h, up until today at least, was on June 9th, 158 deaths due to Covid-19. We are at 20 deaths per 100k inhabitants
Yesterday the law to punish quarantine infractors got passed, however now a report claims that over 2.5 Million people have been inspected during quarantine. Out of them, only 0.5% didn't have their papers to get out. So a law to criminalize the 0.5% got passed quick, but a law that would allow 22 thousand mothers to stay with their 6 months old children is on the verge of being dropped because government party say it's against the constitution. Social safety net for those that if they don't break quarantine, can't eat, is still up in the air.
Also, the government speaker now claim that no one has ever, ever, thought about following herd immunity. Despite having several health official, including former and current health ministers, basically describing herd immunity when talking strategy. Everyone but the right wing is calling the failures of the strategy as it is.
PUT ME OUT OF THE MISERY OF LIVING HERE PLEASE
+ 4.475 new positives, 225.103 total
+ 226 new deaths, 3.841 total
+ 1.845 in ICU, 399 critical, 353 ventilators avaliables
+ 16.997 reported tests, 903.166 total
Had a reduction in daily positive rate (26.1%).
Death toll reporting is a cumulative of several days, but the official report indicates that the record of deaths in 24h, up until today at least, was on June 9th, 158 deaths due to Covid-19. We are at 20 deaths per 100k inhabitants
Yesterday the law to punish quarantine infractors got passed, however now a report claims that over 2.5 Million people have been inspected during quarantine. Out of them, only 0.5% didn't have their papers to get out. So a law to criminalize the 0.5% got passed quick, but a law that would allow 22 thousand mothers to stay with their 6 months old children is on the verge of being dropped because government party say it's against the constitution. Social safety net for those that if they don't break quarantine, can't eat, is still up in the air.
Also, the government speaker now claim that no one has ever, ever, thought about following herd immunity. Despite having several health official, including former and current health ministers, basically describing herd immunity when talking strategy. Everyone but the right wing is calling the failures of the strategy as it is.
PUT ME OUT OF THE MISERY OF LIVING HERE PLEASE
Seeing some people turn to the still droping death data for hope as hospitalizations start to increase everywhere not realizing that of course death data will be the last to start rising because it takes more time to die than to be hospitalized or tested positive.
According to some comments, it's people wanting to get tested at a local hospital. I suppose we'll get more info and videos in the upcoming hours (if they don't get censored).
Fun little anecdote from today:
Our office has started bringing staff back (everyone was work from home, now it's two days in the office, three at home).
I'm the only one wearing a mask. I had an exchange with a coworker who asked, "Parthenios, you're the smartest person who works here and you're the only one wearing a mask. You still think coronavirus is real? We all know it's a hoax to let the government control us."
I told her, "If you think I'm the smartest person here, you should ask yourself why the smartest person is wearing a mask and everyone else isn't."
She paused on that for a couple of seconds and said, "You know what, I think I'm going to start wearing my mask again."
Our office has started bringing staff back (everyone was work from home, now it's two days in the office, three at home).
I'm the only one wearing a mask. I had an exchange with a coworker who asked, "Parthenios, you're the smartest person who works here and you're the only one wearing a mask. You still think coronavirus is real? We all know it's a hoax to let the government control us."
I told her, "If you think I'm the smartest person here, you should ask yourself why the smartest person is wearing a mask and everyone else isn't."
She paused on that for a couple of seconds and said, "You know what, I think I'm going to start wearing my mask again."
Fuck. The school district I work for in Colorado just retracted their plans on having an A/B schedule with Friday's being virtual and decided to just have everyone back in buildings like nothing happened starting in August. I get that numbers are down in Colorado, but this is going to be a nightmare. My wife is pregnant as well (due in September) and she also works for the district. She can take medical leave but I can't. If I have to go back, she'll have to live at her parents house before and after the baby is born while I take care of our 4 year-old. This re-opening business is completely stupid.
I think the clock is ticking on Fauci being fired.
With this sudden resurgence, Fauci has been interviewed more lately, and like usual he's giving his sober, clear-eyed presentation of the science and public health. But, in that he's saying things that are true, and of course, contradict the Trump administration.
Pence says cases are going down and talk of a resurgence is "overblown." Fauci, correctly, contradicts him.
The Trump Administration goes forward with it's rally in Tulsa. Fauci suggests this is a bad idea.
Trump wants the economies opened immediately. Fauci calls for caution.
Trump can't wait for sports to be back. Fauci warns against the NBA resuming play and the NFL kicking off this Fall.
Trump and Pence talk about breakthroughs in vaccines and how they're producing a vaccine faster than ever. Fauci says he opposes the idea of announcing a vaccine by October, that it's not enough time.
I will eat my hat if Fauci is not fired, forced to resign, or resigns before November 4th. I see it as a question of when. When will Trump override his campaign advisors and fire him anyway? Will he do it right now, 5 months before the election? WIll be do it in OCtober when Trump begins to promise he's delivering a vaccine and Fauci warns that it hasn't been scientifically tested? Will he wait for the next scandal and do it quietly over night?
With this sudden resurgence, Fauci has been interviewed more lately, and like usual he's giving his sober, clear-eyed presentation of the science and public health. But, in that he's saying things that are true, and of course, contradict the Trump administration.
Pence says cases are going down and talk of a resurgence is "overblown." Fauci, correctly, contradicts him.
The Trump Administration goes forward with it's rally in Tulsa. Fauci suggests this is a bad idea.
Trump wants the economies opened immediately. Fauci calls for caution.
Trump can't wait for sports to be back. Fauci warns against the NBA resuming play and the NFL kicking off this Fall.
Trump and Pence talk about breakthroughs in vaccines and how they're producing a vaccine faster than ever. Fauci says he opposes the idea of announcing a vaccine by October, that it's not enough time.
I will eat my hat if Fauci is not fired, forced to resign, or resigns before November 4th. I see it as a question of when. When will Trump override his campaign advisors and fire him anyway? Will he do it right now, 5 months before the election? WIll be do it in OCtober when Trump begins to promise he's delivering a vaccine and Fauci warns that it hasn't been scientifically tested? Will he wait for the next scandal and do it quietly over night?
Rank incompetence. $7.3 million down the tube soda bottle.
www.propublica.org
The Trump Administration Paid Millions for Test Tubes — and Got Unusable Mini Soda Bottles
The plastic tubes supplied for coronavirus testing by Fillakit, a first-time federal contractor with a sketchy owner, don’t even fit the racks used to analyze samples. And they may be contaminated anyway.
www.propublica.org
I don't understand the decision making that goes into rescinding that in the first place.
If it were that simple to get people to wear their damn masks lol
Kentucky was doing so well at this, but we've by and large joined everyone else in throwing our hands up.
Lmao I too see a lot of folks not wearing their masks at work. I have to keep reminding the Health and Safety guy to put his mask.