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I'm not defending - just clarifying since several people saw flu numbers in there and jumped to the wrong interpretation.
Even Japan is now worried that cases are rising, they put on a straight face because of the Olympics but now that's gone.
The really obvious reason to think that it isn't SARS-COV-2 is that our hospitals didn't get overwhelmed with millions of cases of severe pneumonia from non-vapers last year, which would have happened if there were loads of random COVID-19 cases walking around undetected with the population taking no general response.
The other big reason is that doctors generally search for the presence of infectious agents in situations like this. The fact that the patients weren't responding to antibiotics makes a viral agent especially suspect. If the patients had upper respiratory infections from a novel coronavirus, not detecting it would be a very strange outcome.
I'm with you on this. The only way Phoenix gets through this without being a horrible hotspot is gonna be cause its so much less dense than almost any other major city, our downtown is comparably tiny and much of phoenix is suburbia. I'm hopeful...
Ok good to know, always wondered since even some scientists speculated Covid might have started infecting humans in September:
AAAS
science.sciencemag.org
Weird coincidence.
US flu deaths...
2010-2011: 36,656
2011-2012: 12,447
2012-2013: 42,570
2013-2014: 37,930
2014-2015: 51,376
2015-2016: 22,705
2016-2017: 38,230
2017-2018: 61,099
2018-2019: 34,157
Those nine years total 337,170.
That's with zero meaningful change to anyone's routines.
200,000 in a few months with major lockdowns is not in the same universe as that.
2010-2011: 36,656
2011-2012: 12,447
2012-2013: 42,570
2013-2014: 37,930
2014-2015: 51,376
2015-2016: 22,705
2016-2017: 38,230
2017-2018: 61,099
2018-2019: 34,157
Those nine years total 337,170.
That's with zero meaningful change to anyone's routines.
200,000 in a few months with major lockdowns is not in the same universe as that.
bruh
Central pastor holds service hours after arrest on violating governor's stay-at-home order
The pastor of Life Tabernacle Church in Central went ahead with an evening religious service Tuesday night just hours after city police cited him over allegations he violated a statewww.theadvocate.com
A fool. Here's what my pastor wrote in an email today:
"Someone asked me what I thought about pastors who were violating the meeting ban, holding church services because it is their constitutional right to do so. As Christians, we willingly sacrifice our rights to love and serve others. It's what Jesus did for us. He sacrificed His right to live so we could live—forever. He calls us to do the same. Any pastor that stands on his constitutional right to meet and jeopardizes the health and safety of his church and his community is not representing Jesus well. We should be leading the way in loving others well, not standing on our rights to the detriment of others."
I wonder how many people are just gonna get used to living like this and will feel kinda disturbed when things go back to normal.
I don't see any coincidence.
The passage you quoted says that the COVID-19 outbreak began at the absolute earliest in September 2019. The mysterious vaping lung illness was first identified five months earlier than that.
My mom is 3 weeks into WFH quarantine and she's going stir crazy lmao.
Do you all remember the ill-conceived ban on European travelers by the Trump administration that directly caused massive confusion and overcrowding at airports while the passengers all breathed the same air in confined spaces AND THEN traveled to their final destination in US as we now are coming to the unsettling realization that the virus is clearly capable or aerosol transmission?
Talk about the worst thing you can do the accelerate the spread of the virus in the US, and the above was it.
Talk about the worst thing you can do the accelerate the spread of the virus in the US, and the above was it.
I already have the feeling that nothing will ever be the same again.
yup the normal for which people speak wont come back any time soon, even after a vaccine is developed. I say atleast 5 years, if ever, and at min another 3 months from now before we can slowly open up again.
I have a friend that I care for that moved to New Orleans the end of January. When I got my tax refund, I booked a trip to visit the city for the first time and see how she's been doing. Obviously the trip isn't gonna happen now, and while I try to talk to her a bit each day, I still worry about her constantly. :(
Yeah, the worst of it was March 14th. The incompetence of Trump's customs department is limitless. Those people were packed like sardines for ten hours each. I believe I likened it to a mosh pit at the time.
Also helps that shaking hands isn't normalized in Japan.
I'm sure our previous generations thought this after many of the terrible situations and pandemics in the last century. The situation is extremely serious and a dark time for the world, but things will indeed go back to normal for the world, sooner then many of us think.
We often think in the here and now, and that whatever we are going through is the worst that it has ever beven.
We are extremely lucky this pandemic is not deadlier then it is. We are even more lucky it impacts much more certain demographics then it does. The medical tech and expertise we have now dedicated to keeping people alive no matter what is incredible to what was available even a few decades ago. At no demographic is this disease a death sentence.
No doubt this is a terrible time but already, months into this, on a global scale things are ticking along better then in other parts of the world and entire blocs and counties are coming out of the other side.
However for the likes of the us, indeed it will be a much longer return to normalcy then other parts of the world. That I would have to agree with, the handling of this by the trump admin is nothing short of a disaster.
Yeah, when you bow you don't touch, deference means you won't knock your head against each other by bowing too low at the same time ;)
You could get infected by card exchange or tissu distribution (though i believe we are passed the big epidemic of tissue that happened in late 90s/00s)
USA will take the longest to recover and it'll be embarrassing when the rest of the world is back to normal x "locking out" or putting Americans into quarantine if they visit their country
Personally I see empty crowd for professional sports starting in late August or September for the USA
Things will get better but it'll take a long time
Unfortunately many will die, especially hospital staff due to poor conditions and no equipment
Personally I see empty crowd for professional sports starting in late August or September for the USA
Things will get better but it'll take a long time
Unfortunately many will die, especially hospital staff due to poor conditions and no equipment
For information 5 to 8% of french students are completely lost, Tom Sawyer style.
Online classes only have an average of 30% attendance, because of sick families that force kids to take care of their parents/their young relatives, connection problems (like my 1megabits per seconds tops... a little short for at home) or others.
Most schools entry exams will get cancelled and the grades of 1st and 2nd trimesters will be used instead... which means people won't be properly ready for the next year unless there is a global catchup effort in the summer.
Online classes only have an average of 30% attendance, because of sick families that force kids to take care of their parents/their young relatives, connection problems (like my 1megabits per seconds tops... a little short for at home) or others.
Most schools entry exams will get cancelled and the grades of 1st and 2nd trimesters will be used instead... which means people won't be properly ready for the next year unless there is a global catchup effort in the summer.
and there is a better than not chance this isnt resolved by summer.
As soon as I saw the photos, I knew this was the biggest mistake that the administration had and still has made. That situation undoubtably seeded the virus into thousands of communities across the US, once people returned to their home cities and towns and likely went straight out to markets to replenish their supplies or panic buy.
It could have been done so much better. Clearer communication to avoid panic and not overwhelm airports, have returning people be screened for fever, all travelers going into mandatory self isolation, have nationwide stay at home guidance already in place. None of that happened, and the result probably made the situation worse for the US in a way that no other single action or decision has.
It's an estimate of the number of death, with lock down, when the epidemic is gone.
Donald J Trump said in his Covid-19 briefing that 200k deaths would feel like a victory (compared to 2.2 million deaths with mild lockdown, or 11 million deaths with no action at all and herd immunity shennanigans)
You're missing that we're up to 900+ deaths per day and accelerating, with massive waves of new infections primed to keep that going for a while.
That's without full ICU saturation.
I've seen models where even with lockdowns ICUs have eight patients lined up for every bed. In that scenario more than 7/8ths of people needing ICU would die until new severe cases dropped.
It is the low prediction for the number of deaths expected.
As a RN I do wonder of this COVID situation will long term lower flu death rates because I think people will practice social distancing for a long time tbh. I know its not too related to COVID but just makes me think.
I don't bow in France, i nod my head or do the "shitsurei shimasu" hand salute which looks like a military salute. Which is fun because people reply with a full military salute.
I forgot, to my Muslim colleagues i put my hand to my heart.
A lot more people will get vaccinated too. Infectious disease will spread slower because of the the lessons we learn from Covid-19 just like how Asia learned from SARS and MERS so they're better able to handle new epidemics. So some good will come out of this, but the cost of acquiring this is going to be very high.
The current mechanism the Trump admin. set up for obtaining medical equipment like ventilators in the U.S. is simply insane. Gov. Cuomo lays it out pretty bare, comparing it to eBay with all 50 states bidding on the same equipment. And then FEMA coming in and bidding on them also. Senator Warren said today that Massachusetts has been outbid three times so far by FEMA.
The problem is, if we did give all purchasing authority to the Federal government, Trump would likely only give equipment to states that benefit him politically or personally.
The problem is, if we did give all purchasing authority to the Federal government, Trump would likely only give equipment to states that benefit him politically or personally.
The current estimate for the White House administration is around 200,000 will die. I still think more will die
Because when Columbus first hit soil, one of his first thoughts in his diary was about the commodity of human lives. It's one of the major vertebrae of our country.
I wonder if we will ever find out just how many people are Asymptomatic. I'm betting many people will go through this entire ordeal and never realize that they were carriers...
lmao i went out for a walk and started talking to my apts security guard about my anxiety and he gave me weed. no joke like two bowl fulls
edit: it's legal and and essential store in California
edit: it's legal and and essential store in California
Honestly I find all this hairpulling about China underreporting numbers a little disingenious because like, every country is. By nature of the limits we have on testing currently every country is under-reporting their cases, especially asymptomatic people.
It's like people are treating this as a weird competition for whatever reason. "No, my country isn't as bad as yours! Nyeh!"
The US are far from their peak unfortunately, 4k death might become a daily average eventually and sadly.
Seems as though the US may start seeing daily death totals in the 4 figures. Such an incredibly sad state of affairs.
Also having seen what's happening in India right now I can't help but feel as though the worst is still to come from a worldwide perspective.
Also having seen what's happening in India right now I can't help but feel as though the worst is still to come from a worldwide perspective.