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Chile is at 2.449 cases, test are increasing so we will probably see real-er numbers these days. We are bracing ourselves
As we're discussing in its own dedicated thread:
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The alt-right government in Hungary led by Viktor Orban issued an Enabling Act, which allows the government to bypass any law or rule at will with the excuse of the emergency in place. Also no protests, no elections, no referendums, nothing can be done by anybody but them for now. They also have specified no date of ending for this scenario, so they probably will not suspend this when the virus eases off. Keep in mind that their state of emergency issued in 2015 for the migrant crisis was not lifted to this day. The Hungarian government used this virus as an excuse to seal the deal and become a complete dictatorship, after a decade of fast tracking towards it. The country's currency is also reaching record lows in terms of value, having lost about 12% of its value in a year.
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Hungarian prime minister Orban uses COVID-19 as pretense to have Enabling Act passed by parliament COVID
Yes, that is unfortunately a very apt comparison: Coronavirus: Hungary government gets sweeping powers More at the link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52095500 For reference, the Enabling Act of 1933: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933
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The alt-right government in Hungary led by Viktor Orban issued an Enabling Act, which allows the government to bypass any law or rule at will with the excuse of the emergency in place. Also no protests, no elections, no referendums, nothing can be done by anybody but them for now. They also have specified no date of ending for this scenario, so they probably will not suspend this when the virus eases off. Keep in mind that their state of emergency issued in 2015 for the migrant crisis was not lifted to this day. The Hungarian government used this virus as an excuse to seal the deal and become a complete dictatorship, after a decade of fast tracking towards it. The country's currency is also reaching record lows in terms of value, having lost about 12% of its value in a year.
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Universal Orlando Pauses Monthly Annual Pass Payments
Universal has been closed since March 16 due to coronavirus.
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Good! Disney will HAVE to follow now.
I'm scared af thinking about poorer societies/countries... Africa as a whole should be in huge trouble I guess? What about India and all these other countries. I don't want to think about it, drives me crazy
This virus is so weird. Mitchell and Gobert were just cleared and Mitchell essentially was asymptomatic the whole time. Why the wide range of 'reactions' to this virus from different people?
How it reacts with your genetic code? That's all I can think given how much the symptoms vary and how some people in their 30's and 40's w/out underlying conditions are dying from this.
Probably because officials are right that on average the Virus isn't that deadly but due to the huge amount of people who have it it's exacerbating the cases where it is serious. Reminder Trump has given no caution to this thing and despite touching hands, and being close to other people including Coronavirus holders he's been doing alright. Like the odds are this thing really shouldn't be killing you but the odds of it being serious isn't nothing and there's a bunch of people out there who have this bug
Got released from quarantine today 16 days after testing positive for corona. Feels surreal to go out again but holy hell it was time. Weirdest time of my life. Girlfriend habing to quarantine with me helped. She never got any symptoms which I find weird since I got it from a 2 mins conversation at work.
Glad you're out the other side. Did you have bad symptoms?
It's a good thing India hasn't had a serious outbreak of covid yet, because they would be so screwed. The lockdown has paradoxically created ideal spreading conditions as people end up homeless, trapped and running out of essentials... But it would have been the case if it were business as usual anyway with people out and about.
I feel like the migrant camps in US / EU are ticking time bombs too.
I feel like the migrant camps in US / EU are ticking time bombs too.
2 days of fever between 39.5 and 40, crazy body aches and dry cough. Came out of nothing from 0 to 100. Third day I felt a lot better and after that it was fine but the coughing took until 2 days ago rocking me through and trough. Couldn't sleep much and had severe chest pains (rib inflammation from coughing, thankfully no pneumonia). Got called and checked upon from the local german health department every morning and from my doctor every 2 days. Worst expiry was really the testing as they used a total of three sticks. Anxiety over the chest pain was wrecking me bad for a few days though.
Danish Prime Minister holding press conference right now.
A glimmer of hope/carrot and stick strategy:
-The numbers are slowly improving showing that the strategy of social distancing and closing of everything but essential businesses is working.
-IF this trend continues for the next two weeks then we will begin fase one of a SLOW reopening of society.
-IF it does NOT continue or worsens, then strichter measures than the current ones will be implemented. Basically "keep up the good work but if you don't then this will continue for a lot longer".
She was very firm on fase one not being opening the borders or having normal conditions yet. It will not be "everyone, go back to work now. It will be very gradual and very slow. And risk groups will still be asked to stay home.
There will be a lot more testing going forward but the health department will not be enough. There will be partnerships with small and big businesses to help wil making testing as broad as possible.
I... don't know if this is good or bad. Very happy about her being firm on "worse numbers = no easing of lockdown". It will really depend on what easing the lockdown looks like though. Personally I think the numbers won't look better after Easter. It's quite possible the govermnent does not expect it to either and by using the carrot of "the path to a return to normalcy" people will be better at taking the proper precautions for the next two weeks which could help flatten the curve. It could be a strategy to get the idiots to act sensibly.
Danish equivalent to Fauci: We're not over it but the virus seems to be under control. We haven't done things differently than the countries who are worse off than us, we just implemented our measures earlier compared to how far along the spread of contagion was. Opening the country completely right after Easter is totally off the table. Then we will be the next US/Italy/Spain. And temper your optimism when you see changes in numbers. Any change in strategy or behaviour by the public won't be felt in the numbers until roughly two weeks later.
A glimmer of hope/carrot and stick strategy:
-The numbers are slowly improving showing that the strategy of social distancing and closing of everything but essential businesses is working.
-IF this trend continues for the next two weeks then we will begin fase one of a SLOW reopening of society.
-IF it does NOT continue or worsens, then strichter measures than the current ones will be implemented. Basically "keep up the good work but if you don't then this will continue for a lot longer".
She was very firm on fase one not being opening the borders or having normal conditions yet. It will not be "everyone, go back to work now. It will be very gradual and very slow. And risk groups will still be asked to stay home.
There will be a lot more testing going forward but the health department will not be enough. There will be partnerships with small and big businesses to help wil making testing as broad as possible.
I... don't know if this is good or bad. Very happy about her being firm on "worse numbers = no easing of lockdown". It will really depend on what easing the lockdown looks like though. Personally I think the numbers won't look better after Easter. It's quite possible the govermnent does not expect it to either and by using the carrot of "the path to a return to normalcy" people will be better at taking the proper precautions for the next two weeks which could help flatten the curve. It could be a strategy to get the idiots to act sensibly.
Danish equivalent to Fauci: We're not over it but the virus seems to be under control. We haven't done things differently than the countries who are worse off than us, we just implemented our measures earlier compared to how far along the spread of contagion was. Opening the country completely right after Easter is totally off the table. Then we will be the next US/Italy/Spain. And temper your optimism when you see changes in numbers. Any change in strategy or behaviour by the public won't be felt in the numbers until roughly two weeks later.
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I've read a few papers indicating that covid19 causes cytokine storm in some people. In cases where people suddenly go from okay to dire or worse, it appears that their immune systems go into overdrive and mistakenly attack the body. The virus is still the cause for that reaction, but people who don't experience this extreme reaction seem to do much better or experience no symptoms at all. It probably comes down to genetics and individual body chemistry.
Hi, I found these two articles. They are related to Bergamo and Brescia provinces, not the full Lombardia.
Bergamo:
Coronavirus a Bergamo, in una settimana 330 morti, 14 volte in più rispetto a un anno fa - BergamoNews
Nella stessa settimana di marzo del 2019 il Comune di Bergamo registrava 23 decessi, nello stesso periodo di quest'anno siamo a 330 morti: 14 volte in più.
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Brescia:
Coronavirus, Ats Brescia: "30-50 morti al giorno in più di quelli ufficiali"
"Si tratta di persone che alle quali non è stato fatto il tampone ma che riteniamo essere morte per Covid"
Why wouldn't the numbers look better after Easter? If numbers are improving currently and measures remain in place, there's no reason to expect to numbers to look the same or worse after another couple of weeks TBH. You got a reason for believing so or is it just a feeling of anxiety?
Probably to be safer. We're seeing that happens when officials don't take this seriously and the consequences that come from it
The increments in the previous days for the positive cases were around +5k.
We must see in the following days if the trend continues.
I agree with you guys. I'm going to ask for it once the crisis is over, at least one day a week maybe 2.
Well, numbers improving is a matter of interpretation. The daily number of new infected is rising. So is the number of deaths and people on respirators and ICU. None of these numbers have dropped. So I guess it's a case of their models having expected much larger numbers than what we are seeing.
That is of course very positive but if this continues we need to see a sharp rise in recoveries to make room for new patients in the hospitals so we don't reach a point where the hospitals are overwhelmed. Luckily we are not near that yet.
Glad you and your girlfriend are okay! Hope your post - Corona recovery goes smoothly and you get to enjoy life once more :)
Danish PM when asked about "what will be opened up first if things are still positive after Easter?"
She can't answer that yet. It will be decided in cooperation with health experts.
She can't answer that yet. It will be decided in cooperation with health experts.
Although higher, it now seems to have stopped exponential growth.
Our town put up signs reminding people it is a fineable offence to not clean up after your dog. I don't get how people can be so rude.
Did you quarantine yourself from your girlfriend during this time or just assume she had it at that point as well and carried on as normal?
Italian numbers are stabilizing. New cases around 4-5k for a while now, deaths around 700-900 for many days now. Hopefully we're around the peak now.
We're living together so she was put in quarantine by the health administration with me. She was treated like she had it too because it is unlikely she hasnt.
Danish Health Minister at the press conference: We will start testing people with light symptoms and people who migh have had COViD to see if there are antibodies in order to track the spread better.
2 of my favorite musical artists died this week from Covid-19, and it got me to thinking: Should we have a separate thread for musicians, entertainers, public figures, and otherwise well-known personalities who have died from Covid-19? Would this be worth making a separate thread over?
It can be fined in france as well, but people keep doing it even when there are dog bags freely available in some blocks.
A former colleague of mine used to do it, and his answer was "it's natural, look where you step" ... so... there... even if they expect people to look at their feet all the time... they still do not think there are blind people whom don't have the luxury to watch where they walk.
If you cannot do otherwise, teach your pets to poop in the gutter.
Aaanyway... we are being warned before the official communication in an hour to expect a shock with inclusion of the nursing/care homes.
Are there any plans for what to do with people who test positive for antibodies? Those people should be immune so IMO they should get special exceptions for whatever rules the country has in place surrounding the virus.
As we're discussing in its own dedicated thread:
Hungarian prime minister Orban uses COVID-19 as pretense to have Enabling Act passed by parliament COVID
Yes, that is unfortunately a very apt comparison: Coronavirus: Hungary government gets sweeping powers More at the link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52095500 For reference, the Enabling Act of 1933: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933
The alt-right government in Hungary led by Viktor Orban issued an Enabling Act, which allows the government to bypass any law or rule at will with the excuse of the emergency in place. Also no protests, no elections, no referendums, nothing can be done by anybody but them for now. They also have specified no date of ending for this scenario, so they probably will not suspend this when the virus eases off. Keep in mind that their state of emergency issued in 2015 for the migrant crisis was not lifted to this day. The Hungarian government used this virus as an excuse to seal the deal and become a complete dictatorship, after a decade of fast tracking towards it. The country's currency is also reaching record lows in terms of value, having lost about 12% of its value in a year.
1 EUR to HUF - Euros to Hungarian Forints Exchange Rate
Get the latest 1 Euro to Hungarian Forint rate for FREE with the original Universal Currency Converter. Set rate alerts for EUR to HUF and learn more about Euros and Hungarian Forints from XE - the Currency Authority.
The most important thing right now is to help mitigate the virus and we need the governments to run efficiently.
That being said, everyone needs to be very vigilant on the powers the government is giving itself and make sure there are things in place for that power to be relinquished in the future. This virus presents a very real potential for big power grabs.
It's already affecting the primaries. Who knows where we will be come November.
I cannot read these anymore... i am lost with the changes in counting strategies going on in some countries... i wonder if that's real new cases or a new calculus discarding the deceased and discharged.
The main difference is that the Hungarian government dismantled most checks and balances already in the past 10 years. Free press, judiciary, oppositions, everything that isn't directly them has been enormously damaged these years. A state of emergency with no ending date (!) that suspends all democratic protests, all opposition's chances to do anything (parliament, referendums, etc.), that can also throw into prison anyone who according to them spreads fake news (when they control 90% of the press and it's full of fake news about migrants, Soros, etc.)... this is dictatorial. A government needs to be effective and swift in the case of an emergency, but this is overstepping. Italy, the country with most dead people, didn't go this far, and they've taken a lot of drastic measures. Orban found yet another excuse to step closer to a dictatorship. And that's not okay.
Danish PM: Can't give details on which industries will be opened up first but it is certain that in the beginning (if they open up) all industries that can work from home should continue to do so.
That is a great idea for any country opening up when things look better.
That is a great idea for any country opening up when things look better.