Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
A slight decrease in the number of deaths. A bit of good news.
Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
Masks help fight corona. Everyone needs to wear them. Factories need to ramp up production. End of story.Wearing mask in Asian countries is more due to environmental and somewhat cultural factors. For example South Korea has long issue of air or fine dust pollution things get so bad that every household in S Korea has an air purifier and people always check app weather for measure of particles in the air before going out.
Considering that yesterday 50 out of 969 were of the previous day, numbers are really similar to yesterday.A slight decrease in the number of deaths. A bit of good news.
The Iron Man armor does filter out most viruses and toxins. However, I think it relies upon the entirety of the armor's systems. The helmet alone is likely insufficient.
Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
Currently, of the 70065 active positive cases:If we still go by the 5-8% Number of all case needing ICU, at least the ICU shoudln't be as crowded as before right?
I don't think the people arguing against mask usage are confused about the difference (at least not those i see in this part of the thread), but I do see people going out with n95 masks because they're "the best." :-(But a CDC order that everyone should wear cloth masks, which they can make themselves and in no way conflicts with the N95 was shortage, doesn't conflict with this at all. The problem is that mask wearing is being demonized by people who keep confusing cloth masks, which are helpful in combating community spread and medical class PPE.
Shortages won't become less of a problem until well after the curve begins to flatten. You can't just wait till the problem is gone to solve the problem.
Another heavy day. On the positive note, much like Spain, a big recovery number. Taht's something I suppose.Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
Currently, of the 70065 active positive cases:
- 39553 quarantined at home;
-26676 hospitalized, not ICU;
- 3856 in ICU.
"Dobbiamo considerare che i dati forniti dalla protezione civile oggi si riferiscono a tamponi eseguiti verso il 24 marzo se non prima, perché i laboratori non riescono ad eseguire subito i test",
if you aren't working in health care that's completely infeasible. I get some of you are scared and all but if you aren't sick you are better off leaving the mask for professionals.
professionals should wear respirators
everyone else should wear masks
You really haven't been. You have been confusing the two and it's the heart of the problem here. It's a pretty common issue in the western world and I am pushing back on it because it is quite dangerous.
Definitely got the sense people were told not to bother with masks mainly because there weren't enough for health care workers.At some point we in the west gotta realize that wearing masks helps. Doctors and nurses don't wear the things for the hell of it. Everyone in Asia wears them and their infection rates are lower. They've been through this shit with SARS and they've learned from it. Meanwhile people in the western world keep dismissing masks while our infections are through the roof.
10.000 dead. Three times more than China. Crazy.Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
I thought that was obvious when I brought up the point of scarcity for medical professionals and people wearing N95 masks for walking dogs. But I get your point and I think we agree in the end.
People in ICU for Covid-19 in Italy:Any idea how the numbers were in the past days? Is the number of people needing ICU increasing or decreasing?
People in ICU for Covid-19 in Italy:
- today: 3856
- March 27: 3732
- March 25: 3612
- March 25: 3489
- March 24: 3396
- March 23: 3204
- March 22: 3009
It seems that in the last week every day 100 more people are put in ICU.
I agree with him for what it's worth.You've made the point that you wanted to make. People disagree. Move on already.
No problem, sorry if that was the case for me as well! Stay safe :)
People in ICU for Covid-19 in Italy:
- today: 3856
- March 27: 3732
- March 25: 3612
- March 25: 3489
- March 24: 3396
- March 23: 3204
- March 22: 3009
It seems that in the last week every day 100 more people are put in ICU.
Even a surgical mask gives some protection to the wearer, saying it does nothing isn't true. Obviously not as much as an N95 mask but that doesn't mean none.I agree with him for what it's worth.
It's also important to really distinguish what we are talking about here.
Surgical masks do not protect you from getting the infection, but it does help reduce the spread of the virus if you have symptons, like coughing, sneezing etc.
(breathing will not spread it)
Medical professional treating covid-19 patients should wear N95 masks and not surgical masks to protect themselves.
But surgical masks are still good for protecting other patients in the hospital who do not have covid-19. That is why they are wearing them. To protect patients, not themselves.
So, if you are wearing a surgical mask or DIY mask, don't think you are protected. It protects others from you. That's all and I don't think people will understand this difference.
The biggest impact on avoiding the spread of the virus is still: Wash your hands and do not touch your face and keep a safe distance.
I agree with him for what it's worth.
It's also important to really distinguish what we are talking about here.
Surgical masks do not protect you from getting the infection, but it does help reduce the spread of the virus if you have symptons, like coughing, sneezing etc.
(breathing will not spread it)
Medical professional treating covid-19 patients should wear N95 masks and not surgical masks to protect themselves.
But surgical masks are still good for protecting other patients in the hospital who do not have covid-19. That is why they are wearing them. To protect patients, not themselves.
So, if you are wearing a surgical mask or DIY mask, don't think you are protected. It protects others from you. That's all and I don't think people will understand this difference.
The biggest impact on avoiding the spread of the virus is still: Wash your hands and do not touch your face and keep a safe distance.
People in ICU for Covid-19 in Italy:
- today: 3856
- March 27: 3732
- March 25: 3612
- March 25: 3489
- March 24: 3396
- March 23: 3204
- March 22: 3009
It seems that in the last week every day 100 more people are put in ICU.
Gotta also account for people leaving/dying in the ICU and getting replaced.
Wait, you're saying that going to a sparse nature trail is not okay? Based on what? Many nature trails are not crowded. We've gone on family hikes every weekend so far on less popular trails and it would take far more effort to get *close* to people than it did to be 10 feet away. Going for a walk around my block would be more difficult from a social distancing perspective.
I briefly looked into it. Some sort of QAnon conspiracy where they claim:
1. Celebrities are suffering from a withdrawal of some drug they can't get
2. They're using this as an excuse to commit suicide and claim it was the virus to escape child abuse allegations
or something along those lines, standard conspiracy theory stuff
it's a Qanon conspiracy about Mark Blum drinking kid's blood. They think the corona virus is fake and what's happening in reality is that Trump has defeated the child blood (andochrome or whatever the fuck) suppliers and people are dying from withdrawals, not the corona virus.
Those numbers are really alarming. It doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
Seeing as China just punted Spain 100s of 1000s of test kits that were very faulty and had a 30% success rate, I'm going to attribute this story to that type of failure.
Months into this, there is NOTHING to show mass re infection is a thing at this stage. We wish tests were 100% but there are faulty ones in play.
I agree with him for what it's worth.
It's also important to really distinguish what we are talking about here.
Surgical masks do not protect you from getting the infection, but it does help reduce the spread of the virus if you have symptons, like coughing, sneezing etc.
(breathing will not spread it)
Medical professional treating covid-19 patients should wear N95 masks and not surgical masks to protect themselves.
But surgical masks are still good for protecting other patients in the hospital who do not have covid-19. That is why they are wearing them. To protect patients, not themselves.
So, if you are wearing a surgical mask or DIY mask, don't think you are protected. It protects others from you. That's all and I don't think people will understand this difference.
The biggest impact on avoiding the spread of the virus is still: Wash your hands and do not touch your face and keep a safe distance.
Italy's update:
+5974 new positive cases (total 92472)
+889 new deaths (total 10023)
+1434 new recoveries (total 12384)
This should be a thread with actual comicbook evidence.The Iron Man armor does filter out most viruses and toxins. However, I think it relies upon the entirety of the armor's systems. The helmet alone is likely insufficient.
About to cross 30,000 worldwide imminently. Goddamn. A week ago we were at 13k.
I need a drink.
Even a surgical mask gives some protection to the wearer, saying it does nothing isn't true. Obviously not as much as an N95 mask but that doesn't mean none.
It does make sense. Seems like on average, you're in ICU for up to 3 weeks for that 5%.Those numbers are really alarming. It doesn't show any signs of slowing down.