A slight decrease in the number of deaths. A bit of good news.
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A slight decrease in the number of deaths. A bit of good news.
You really haven't been. You have been confusing the two and it's the heart of the problem here. It's a pretty common issue in the western world and I am pushing back on it because it is quite dangerous.
Masks help fight corona. Everyone needs to wear them. Factories need to ramp up production. End of story.
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I got a half dozen to drop off today.
I got a half dozen to drop off today.
Considering that yesterday 50 out of 969 were of the previous day, numbers are really similar to yesterday.
Lol I meant the plastic one I own, covers head and face, I'll have to look at what openings there are for breathing
If we still go by the 5-8% Number of all case needing ICU, at least the ICU shoudln't be as crowded as before right? ( Because of the High numbers of Recoveris + Deaths)
Currently, of the 70065 active positive cases:
- 39553 quarantined at home;
-26676 hospitalized, not ICU;
- 3856 in ICU.
I don't think the people arguing against mask usage are confused about the difference (at least not those i see in this part of the thread), but I do see people going out with n95 masks because they're "the best." :-(
Another heavy day. On the positive note, much like Spain, a big recovery number. Taht's something I suppose.
Any idea how the numbers were in the past days? Is the number of people needing ICU increasing or decreasing?
ALso interesting Info:
Numbers from Today should be from tests done on the 24 of March. If we consider that the full Lockdown started on the 11. this could be an indication why the numbers are not decreasing as we would expect.
Meanwhile, in Israel...
www.btselem.org
These are some of the poorest and vulnerable Palestinians in the west bank.
During the Coronavirus crisis, Israel confiscates tents designated for clinic in the Northern West Bank
This morning, Thursday, 26 March 2020, at around 7:30 am, officials from Israel’s Civil Administration in the West Bank arrived with a military jeep escort, a bulldozer and two flatbed trucks with cranes at the Palestinian community of Khirbet Ibziq in the northern Jordan Valley. They...
These are some of the poorest and vulnerable Palestinians in the west bank.
Everyone should wear masks, professionals should wear respirators.
I thought that was obvious when I brought up the point of scarcity for medical professionals and people wearing N95 masks for walking dogs. But I get your point and I think we agree in the end.
Definitely got the sense people were told not to bother with masks mainly because there weren't enough for health care workers.
Unfortunately there's even more of a stigma to wearing a mask now because they've only been recommended for sick people, it's definitely what I think of when I see people with masks.
People in ICU for Covid-19 in Italy:
- today: 3856
- March 27: 3732
- March 25: 3612
- March 25: 3489
- March 24: 3396
- March 23: 3204
- March 22: 3009
It seems that in the last week every day 100 more people are put in ICU.
I agree with him for what it's worth.
It's also important to really distinguish what we are talking about here.
Surgical masks do not protect you from getting the infection, but it does help reduce the spread of the virus if you have symptons, like coughing, sneezing etc.
(breathing will not spread it)
Medical professional treating covid-19 patients should wear N95 masks and not surgical masks to protect themselves.
But surgical masks are still good for protecting other patients in the hospital who do not have covid-19. That is why they are wearing them. To protect patients, not themselves.
So, if you are wearing a surgical mask or DIY mask, don't think you are protected. It protects others from you. That's all and I don't think people will understand this difference.
The biggest impact on avoiding the spread of the virus is still: Wash your hands and do not touch your face and keep a safe distance.
No problem, sorry if that was the case for me as well! Stay safe :)
Even a surgical mask gives some protection to the wearer, saying it does nothing isn't true. Obviously not as much as an N95 mask but that doesn't mean none.
If it prevents the spread of the virus, then it should be a priority to get everyone wearing masks. Plain and simple.
Any factory that has the capacity to make masks or could be reassigned to the production of these needs to start pumping these out. Period. They need to be ordered to if they don't want to or are slow in doing so.
Do countries want to "win" this or not?
Those numbers are really alarming. It doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
A few Chinese media outlets have reported that France ordered 1 billion face masks from China, which will be delivered in the following 14 weeks with 56 round trips.
Gotta also account for people leaving/dying in the ICU and getting replaced.
Seeing as China just punted Spain 100s of 1000s of test kits that were very faulty and had a 30% success rate, I'm going to attribute this story to that type of failure.
Months into this, there is NOTHING to show mass re infection is a thing at this stage. We wish tests were 100% but there are faulty ones in play.
The course if the virus, as virle and infectious as it is, is following the same endpoint as others in our history. The recovered rate is rising quickly.
No immunity to this, even short term, would herald the collapse of the world as we know it. Thankfully like I mentioned, no evidence apart from a few a cases that can be attributed to false positives or negatives point to this.
They are basing it on nothing. Go for your walks in parks etc, strictly observe the social distancing rules the experts state and wear eye/nose/mouth protection whilst you do. That poster is fucking lying to themselves if they think staying in your respective homes for likely a solid month and more is fucking viable for a vast majority of the population. It's why countries with 10 of thousands cases still allow people to get some air.
Yeah, i'd be alarmed if we heard a story like this coming out of South Korea. Since they seem to have a good job of getting a handle of the virus. But as it stands there are a lot of questions about China. Especially since as you mentioned, we're seeing reports of a high percentage of the tests they sent other countries coming back faulty.
Pretty cool, shows that fast testing and isolation is very effective. Unfortunately very few country is doing it,
Meanwhile social distance can flatten the curve, but the virus will still circulate for a very long time and eventually lots of people will end up infected.
Meanwhile social distance can flatten the curve, but the virus will still circulate for a very long time and eventually lots of people will end up infected.
that is not true, wearing a surgical mask protects you from droplets. when you also wear glasses you are much safer than someone without a surgical mask and glasses.
it is a false narrative some countires tried to spin because there are not enough masks. a mask is always better than no mask. and a mask does surely protect from droplets. AND it protects others from you on top.(if you are infected but you have no symptoms for example).
About to cross 30,000 worldwide imminently. Goddamn. A week ago we were at 13k.
I need a drink.
I need a drink.
Try to brace yourself for the exorbitant numbers we will get in the upcoming weeks. This is unfathomable for all of us. We're pretty much adapting to the situation on the daily.
If this is true it's because it's going to be paired with a get back to work directive.
People who demonize Mask-wearing should just shut up. Saying that masks don't protect fully against Covid is like saying nobody should use the pill because it is only 98% effective in not getting pregnant.
Shouldn't our heroic capitalistic market provide us masks? I seem to remember learning that supply and demand will provide for the population in a capitalistic system. Strange that countries like Vietnam have no problems doubling or tripling their mask production to meet the demand of the population and even have so much surplus that they mandate everyone in Vietnam to wear masks.
It does make sense. Seems like on average, you're in ICU for up to 3 weeks for that 5%.
