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Great news if true. But you have to wonder:
On one hand, spreading this news (if true) would give hope and strength to a lot of people already in Intensive Care.
It would also give more validation to people, that staying isolated is for losers.
You can practically hear people running to amass as much of that medicine as possible.
On one hand, spreading this news (if true) would give hope and strength to a lot of people already in Intensive Care.
It would also give more validation to people, that staying isolated is for losers.
You can practically hear people running to amass as much of that medicine as possible.
Megaton
The key I think is that this needs to be done before patients get to ICU
We should know pretty quickly how effective it is, there is no shortage of patients and studies going on =/
Right?
Right?
FYI, Apple has a new COVID-19 app in the App Store. They partnered with the CDC to put together a screening tool. Considering quite a few of the people in here who are understandably having anxiety attacks over a sore throat, it's worth a look to ease your mind.
Not sure if posted
Haven't looked into it at all so maybe it's fine but hopefully this doesn't do more harm than good. You can have it with little to no symptoms.
For my other Americans in this thread, what's the feeling regarding the earliest time frame that we get out of lockdown? Seeing the projections that NYC doesn't expect their apex to be until 4/21, and knowing that NY is ahead of a lot of states, it's starting to feel like we aren't going to be set free into the world until May/June at the earliest (and that would include some restrictions and social distancing requirements, I'd assume).
Talking with coworkers today, it seems like we're all in this collective state of denial where we are all idealizing a return to normalcy in a month, at most. In the back of our heads, I think we all know that isn't realistic, but nobody wants say that out loud.
Talking with coworkers today, it seems like we're all in this collective state of denial where we are all idealizing a return to normalcy in a month, at most. In the back of our heads, I think we all know that isn't realistic, but nobody wants say that out loud.
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I have been saying mid-May since the beginning and I still think that.
And I think we'll likely have to do it again for a few weeks in August or September for a bit.
Aint this Doctor criticized by many specialist now due to his studies being really weird? Like little number of people and randomization etc.
Well, I filled out the symptoms that I've had and it basically told me to self-isolate for a week, and to monitor for more severe symptoms. The questionnaire was fairly thorough. It seemed like reasonable advice considering I didn't have any of the tell-tale signs, though I did have some minor trouble breathing.
I would hope the app will do more good than harm. The hospital systems don't need people with minor symptoms coming in right now. Here in California I can't even get tested with the symptoms I've had. I know that people want to get tested for peace of mind, but we just don't have the capabilities for that right now and the doctors need to focus on people who are having severe symptoms.
I think this is why some people think they need to do Placebo-controlled studies, it's still not enough.
God damn. A outlet home improvement store here in MN just sent out an email newsletter advertising 1,000s of KN95 masks would be arriving on April 1 and they would be selling them I bulk for $1,000 per bundle.
They got blasted for it, sent out an apology email and Facebook post sayin "we were going to donate a percentage" and "we are just trying to run a business. Anyone can order them from China, they just haven't." The CEO even made a Facebook video saying he is getting blasted by his marketing guy for putting that in, but just feels misunderstood.
Seriously....
Look at this shit: https://mnhomeoutlet.cmail20.com/t/...EF23F30FEDED/B648568510937991F039C523302FD418
They got blasted for it, sent out an apology email and Facebook post sayin "we were going to donate a percentage" and "we are just trying to run a business. Anyone can order them from China, they just haven't." The CEO even made a Facebook video saying he is getting blasted by his marketing guy for putting that in, but just feels misunderstood.
Seriously....
Look at this shit: https://mnhomeoutlet.cmail20.com/t/...EF23F30FEDED/B648568510937991F039C523302FD418
God...PLEASE...
The entire point of thorough clinical trials is make sure that isn't the case.
Emphasis on THOROUGH, though. I'm worried companies are gonna rush things to be the first to say "WE HAVE A CURE!" and rake in BILLIONS.
Well since he made exact same studies again while ignoring criticism and havent done any improvement upon first one I have very little trust in his work now.
Supposedly getting married in July and I can't imagine actual happening.
That's a tiny sample size and really just not a very good study. Hopefully more comes of this but as of right now even if that is a treatment it's a long way from actually being used.
This guy has fudged data before. I hope he's not this time but another person needs to do a study
IDK really, $1/mask seems not too bad at all? People that are seriously gouging are selling them for >$10 for one!
Though I don't know the regular wholesale cost of these things at all, haven't even ever tried to buy one before this crisis.
Just a little stupid math based on a 2016 study of Millionaires households in the USA. On that list, there were 35 million households that had a combined income of 1,000,000 or more.
If they all donated $5000, which let's face it... chump change in that income level. That is over $175 billion dollars that could go towards healthcare support.
I know it's an unrealistic way to look at things, but it seems like for every 1 person that is being generous right now (like that excec who donated a years salary), a 1000 more are not sharing a cent. And some are getting richer off all this is stories are to be believed.
So disheartening.
If they all donated $5000, which let's face it... chump change in that income level. That is over $175 billion dollars that could go towards healthcare support.
I know it's an unrealistic way to look at things, but it seems like for every 1 person that is being generous right now (like that excec who donated a years salary), a 1000 more are not sharing a cent. And some are getting richer off all this is stories are to be believed.
So disheartening.
my thing is that my travel to new york ended 13 days ago... and lots of the cases i'm seeing now in NYC started just before I got there 11-13 (i left the 15 and was only at a small party of around 15ish people, though I didn't take public transit at all (except my plane flight home).
Again no cough, no fever, and when I took a benzo earlier today I felt better for a few hours. Still think it's anxiety but this asks if I've been to a hotzone and don't know what to say
3M N95 disposables which are considered top of the line were $15 for 10 before this all hit, so $1 per seems relatively fair.
The point is not the value, but that he opened them up to the public to purchase when hospitals are begging for more. The state has literally procured most of them and distributes them under police protection now, so they can be tracked.
Then this idiot comes in and says he maneuvered some pallet space in shipments and wants to sell them to the public in a few weeks and will donate a small percentage of them. Meanwhile, our medical professionals are wearing fucking socks to save our family members.
His stupidity has been put on display for everyone to see. He still has his conservative stalwarts...but the REST of the county will get him out of office. He won't be President during our next flu season.
Is this even enforceable given how remote some places in Alaska still are?
The more we restrict now, the quicker we can ween ourselves back into normalcy. April is already forfeit, probably looking at mid May by the earliest
July.
Expect that...so you set your expectations appropriately. This virus will be fought for the next 10months.
Honestly? We might see some gradual easing of the lockdown for things like hair salons, smaller gatherings etc as long as we ramp up testing, But stuff like Sporting Events, large concerts, parades? Man.. I'll put it this way, I think two seasons of the NBA and NHL are in serious jeopardy. Kirk Herbstreit said he doesn't think CFB will play this year.
Huh?
I'm not familiar with the exact income distributions across the country, but the United States only has about 130 million households. You're suggesting that nearly a quarter of US households are bringing in >=$1M each year. That's pretty obviously bullshit.
Looks like shit is about to get real in my neck of the woods. Only 100 miles from Rapid City, SD.
rapidcityjournal.com
Monument Health caregiver with COVID-19 came into contact with 112 individuals
A patient who tested positive for coronavirus at Monument Health was also a caregiver there who worked in the cancer care institute.
Oh yeah—big time. I read somewhere that their actual case numbers could easily 5-10x what they've reported.
25-Year-Old Pharmacy Technician Dies From Coronavirus In Riverside County, No Underlying Health Conditions Reported
Riverside County health officials reported the death of a 25-year-old pharmacy technician from COVID-19 Friday and warned the community that the illness is not just deadly for elderly people.losangeles.cbslocal.com
25 year old pharmacy technician has passed away from COVID-19. The dangers of working in a pharmacy during this pandemic is not stated enough. In my store we allegedly had someone who was exposed to COVID walk in to pick up prescriptions. People breaking quarantine and just acting careless about the whole thing is extremely frustrating and sad to see.
Stay the fuck home, people.
But a pharmacy is kind of an essential. If you are running out of medication and are only able to get x months worth at a time, what other option do you have?
What some grocery stores have done is essentially to build a protection wall where the cashier sits.
Pharamcies should do the same, there is no reason not to do it.
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Pharamcies should do the same, there is no reason not to do it.
No arguing that. RX's need to stay opened. I just look at customers who come to the store buying cosmetics, candy, and toys with complete disappointment and frustration.
That's why I had my medications switched to a pharmacy that has a drive thru.
Yes the protection walls at the supermarkets are up now.
But I'm not even sure MLB will play this year.
The thing about "flattening the curve" is that you're flattening the apex, too.
If the apex in the NYC area is, say, 21 days from now - how sharp or round is the non-flattened version of the apex? Is it a day, a few days long, or might it stick around for a week?
And does the back end of the curve mirror the escalation, or have a longer tail? A direct mirror of the escalation-to-apex in the NYC area, in this example, would be 21 + 14 = 35 days - which post-apex would put us close to Memorial Day.
Then consider that throughout February and the beginning of March we were at risk but with no stay-at-home yet. So mirroring that on the de-escalation side, though with proper social distancing this time, adds at least a month - which would put us in late June. Can't say if it will work out to this time frame though.
Now consider the stay-at-home flattening. What is this apex flattened to? A hump? A plateau? Will flattening squeeze the curve like a toothpaste tube, where the de-escalation gets pushed out to last longer than the escalation? Not sure.
But I'm not even sure MLB will play this year.
The thing about "flattening the curve" is that you're flattening the apex, too.
If the apex in the NYC area is, say, 21 days from now - how sharp or round is the non-flattened version of the apex? Is it a day, a few days long, or might it stick around for a week?
And does the back end of the curve mirror the escalation, or have a longer tail? A direct mirror of the escalation-to-apex in the NYC area, in this example, would be 21 + 14 = 35 days - which post-apex would put us close to Memorial Day.
Then consider that throughout February and the beginning of March we were at risk but with no stay-at-home yet. So mirroring that on the de-escalation side, though with proper social distancing this time, adds at least a month - which would put us in late June. Can't say if it will work out to this time frame though.
Now consider the stay-at-home flattening. What is this apex flattened to? A hump? A plateau? Will flattening squeeze the curve like a toothpaste tube, where the de-escalation gets pushed out to last longer than the escalation? Not sure.
In my area there's only one of those that I know of. They aren't common here.I think you still have to sign for your perscription through those though? If there was anything that would carry the virus, it's probably on that stylus/tablet.
Yeah, the issue with "flatten the curve" always was that they never put numbers on the axis. SZ (German newspaper, scroll down) tried to model it today and, for Germany, it basically means delaying the peak until October and having the lockdown last about a year.
This is some hours old now, sorry if already posted.
Pentagon eyes Chicago, Michigan, Florida, Louisiana as coronavirus spreads
www.news.trust.org/item/20200327213427-xshb7
Pentagon eyes Chicago, Michigan, Florida, Louisiana as coronavirus spreads
www.news.trust.org/item/20200327213427-xshb7
New Coronavirus Scam Exposed (Fake Cure)
Scammers are now peddling fake COVID19 cures in a variety of forms. There are emails, fake news articles, and websites all dedicated to taking advantage of t...
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Now there are scammers selling covid-19 "cure". Fucking scum.
We really can't say when the whole country will stay or come out of lockdown. You really can't compare the USA to Italy or Germany simply due to the sheer size and differences between states. Which means I think you have to look at it state by state, ESPECIALLY because Trump has already established himself to be a moron who will wave the "ALL CLEAR!" flag as soon he fucking can. Some states might listen, but hopefully most won't and will decide on their own.
With all that said, you''re right that we;; be spending the next year+ dealing with this shit, but I think it'll come in waves. In some recovered/less affected areas, there might be a half-lockdown where businesses are allowed to open, but the same social distancing is encouraged and they're only allowed to be at half capacity or something. Same with colleges, any class that can be taught online will be and those that have to be taught on campus like labs or athletic courses might be. I have no idea what K-12 will do, but I have a feeling they'll have to be open in some capacity by September for most places.
I was reading a CNN article that there are US labs that don't want to run a trial on hydroxychloroquine.
The reason? It's a generic drug ... meaning big pharma can't hold a patent for it and make money off of it.
