Yes, the DMV in CT is using it on one of their offices this weekend. But yeah,the next time people come back in the office someone could be carrying it.
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Yes, the DMV in CT is using it on one of their offices this weekend. But yeah,the next time people come back in the office someone could be carrying it.
I don't get this. The virus lives up to 3 days on surfaces and most of it dies much earlier so the risk is already minimal after 2 days. If the office is closed in the weekend, then 2,5 days will have passed from Friday night to Monday morning.
older population on average is for sure a factor , also the whole thing started in the most populous region in the entire country, lots of cities with high density population
and that's without counting when they reached full capacity in their hospitals, but tbh they were having already an high number of deaths before that.
People who were already sick but not showing symptoms
People who are ignoring the lock down
Medical personnel getting ill from patients
People getting ill from family members who they're quarantined with
People who were obviously sick for days but only just got tested
Plenty of reasons
I'm right there with you, it all sucks. My in-laws both have preexisting conditions that put them at risk and all I can do is sit around and feel helpless, waiting for a disaster that may or may not come.
as of now we only know how many "medics" (unspecified role) died since the start, which is 46
Italy is far from alone, it's simply ahead of the curve which is why it's getting the headlines. Spain, France and UK are all on track for this (Spain's actually on track for worse).
Lockdown decreases the number of new cases, which have more or less "stabilized" (but havent decreased yet). UCI (and deaths) are on delay with the new cases.
We're getting closer to +100,000 cases a day. Might get there in 2 or 3 days at this point.
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I wonder if it has something to do with people still going to stores often.
It could take a month for the lockdown to start affecting things. The lag on this thing is insane.
Right? I was thinking the same thing. Imagine all of the possible undue anxiety a lot of people probably have over this and they may even have already had it and not even known. What made me come back down to level was me figuring even if I or my family was infected, at least one of us would have some sort of symptoms, I find it really hard to believe we'd all be asymptomatic.
Ok that's what I was figuring. Between the density of the population as well as the age. It's so tragic though, Italy's average age will definitely be decreasing after this is all said and done :(
Yeah I remember seeing a video of someone in Spain showing the obituaries in their newspaper in February and then during the outbreak and it went from like a page to over 6 pages. It turned my stomach.
The lockdown worked. The number of cases and deaths are both increasing subexponentially in Italy. Sadly this is what a successful lockdown looks like if you do it a week or two too late.
I had the same reaction, but our company is essential so we're going to have employees in and out all the time. So far, no one has been sick nor tested positive that has to come into our office.
There isn't a clear answer, at the moment. It could be a combination of multiple factors, starting from the fact that Italy was the first European country to be hit.
What is certain, is that we have been quite unlucky..
Symptom lag as well. The positive cases haven't been going up as exponentially, but the death rate has still been going up because the worst of it doesn't hit till 7-14 days into it. They are also performing war time triage which means people who might be possible to save can't be because they don't have the personnel, capacity or medical supplies to help older people coming into medical centers. This is it what likely will happen to most communities who can't properly isolate and test its population. It got out of control well before the lockdown, and people who are sick aren't being pulled away from family and friends who in turn get those people sick. The rate is still lower then it would have been without the shutdown, and that just shows how scary this could have been with minimal care which is happening in some states here in the US ;/
The lockdown isn't gonna suddenly stop the virus, people are still gonna get infected. Plus, sympthoms can still show up until 14 days after the virus, the lockdown started on the 12th.
Has Lysol or Purell released any type of statement as to when their products will be replenished?
They just got hit first. Spain and others are going to get hit too.
Italy is a big tourist destination for Chinese. That's probably why they got hit earlier.
hopefully that's not the case, it wwould mean a shitload more people died.
this is the age situation in italy as of 2018
on a regional levek maybe, but on the grand total all those deaths are a drop in the ocean, and hopefully they will still be at the end of all this.
It is really a worldwide tragedy. When everything started in China months ago, I would have never thought that the situation would have become so worrisome.
I believe the Imperial College study ran estimates on those numbers. They aren't great.
One of the traumatic things about these is the initial quietness outside the house holds early on.... but as we've seen in Italy and other places, that quietness turns into medical sirens of people being taken to Hospitals...
It's happing here and there in San Francisco, but if/when it picks up...I'm going to have to start playing the TV to drown out the sirens.
Well theres been a few things said that I have seen and I don't know how true some of it is.
Ageing population, large portion of the population smokes and then you have cultural things like how they greet each other, hugs and kisses and how its not uncommon to have 3 or 4 generations under one roof.
They need to test the drugs to see if it's really working on Covid. These drugs are known not to be toxic to humans, but they can still have big secondary effects, which some could lead to death.
We should know more in May.
Damn the situation in Italy is terrible.
I still can't believe we're going through this. Not the kind of historical event I wanted to be a part of. Poor italy, makes my heart ache.
They're testing dead people too unlike us in France or Germany who test only the living.
Of the 20 percent that are hospitalized, how many are placed on a ventilator? 5 percent????
Think it's the age range in which people have died (starts at 30 and goes to 100 which fits with the table below it)
According to the very health minister, he's untouchable. Also, Piñera is probably misinformed too, several ministers left before all of this blew up, but he hasn't fired anyone since October last year.
I Stopped counting the times this has been debunked already. I'm not bothering anymore.
Thanks, that makes more sense.
It's when we achieve our final form.
(what the two guys under me said.)
Well, I suppose that the reason is that not so many people reach that age.
Can people please finally stop spreading this misinformation?
Well yeah. I was it was something cool like
Ok yeah I remember reading something back in January that was basically saying how this outbreak started at the worst possible time for China with the Lunar New Year. I wonder how things would have been different if the outbreak didn't really start getting worse until a month later.
hopefully that's not the case, it wwould mean a shitload more people died.
this is the age situation in italy as of 2018
on a regional levek maybe, but on the grand total all those deaths are a drop in the ocean, and hopefully they will still be at the end of all this.
Ah ok. That's just the worst part for me is seeing the totals and whatnot.