Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how reliable should we consider the plateaued Chinese numbers?
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“UPDATE on coronavirus (#COVID19) testing in the UK: As of 9am on 21 March, a total of 72,818 have been tested: 67,800 negative. 5,018 positive. As of 9am, 233 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died. The digital dashboard will be updated later today.”
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Effective treatment is also an option. A very important one in order to bridge the gap to a vaccine.
COVID-19: The biology of an effective therapy
We already know lots about coronavirus biology.
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If you can demonstrate you had some proximity to someone who tested positive, you can get a test. The higher in status you are, the far easier it is to demonstrate. No, that's not fair.
The outbreak centers, at least in the Northeast where I live, have gotten priority for testing as well. They haven't given up on having testing yet, but we'll have to see today's NYC update later to see where this stands.
Seriously hope he gets a lot of support. I was getting angry right along with him.
In addition, everyone keeps talking about how similar this is to a cold or the flu. Until a lot of people are falling over dying, noone cares to do anything about someone who "probably has the cold/flu." If it originated here, the first of those affected probably wouldn't get any testing. They'd just get something to help with the symptoms and get sent on their way.
Not to mention the treatment requirements for covid19 and this is just the beginning, we literally have no idea how hard this is going to hit when it is said and done, and if the hospital systems collapse it's going to be much worse than that.
That's across the US. Hospitals in very specific areas are dealing with issues. NY will be dealing with numbers above those by next week.
I'm in IL. We have a shelter in place order and schools have been closed since early this week. While I know all of this is helping imo it's still means very little when we're still not getting tested.
Anyone else here about this memo going around? My parents sent a sound clip, half are facts, half sound like pseudoscience:
Starts out with talking about how due to autopsies in China, we now know how the virus works (attaches itself in the lungs and is sticky blah blah), and then goes on to how to prevent it. Some facts like dogs can't catch it: true. Then other stuff like "drink water constantly to wet your throat, virus can't attach easily" and "gargle salt water so the virus can't make it into the lungs". Also other stuff like "wash your hands every 20 mins" which sounds very excessive (especially if you aren't going out) and can dry out and ruin your hands.
There has to be a Snopes thing on this, right? If these were real things to "stop the virus" we would have widespread heard about it by now.
Starts out with talking about how due to autopsies in China, we now know how the virus works (attaches itself in the lungs and is sticky blah blah), and then goes on to how to prevent it. Some facts like dogs can't catch it: true. Then other stuff like "drink water constantly to wet your throat, virus can't attach easily" and "gargle salt water so the virus can't make it into the lungs". Also other stuff like "wash your hands every 20 mins" which sounds very excessive (especially if you aren't going out) and can dry out and ruin your hands.
There has to be a Snopes thing on this, right? If these were real things to "stop the virus" we would have widespread heard about it by now.
For those doubting China numbers... do y'all think any western country has done what they did so early in their outbreak?
In addition to what other people are saying, Treating the acute phase is long and intensive and resource heavy. Younger people might survive but those that end up needing treatment add to that demand as well and are very numerous. Our medical system is built out to existing demand. So this is on top of the current needs. Add the demands of quarantine and how that affects provisioning at all levels too.
Not in Seattle.
They are only testing people who are in serious conditions, and NYC and LA seem to be moving toward that model as well.
I'm still gonna bet good money celebrities and people from congress will somehow manage to get tested if they have a fever.
Flu spreads relatively evenly. Covid-19 doesn't, it bunches up and overwhelms locally.
Flu has a much lower rate of requiring intensive care and ICUs(intensive care units) are the bottleneck the US will run into quickly with covid-19 patients.
And lastly, Covid-19 is spreading much more easily, so it is requiring much tighter care, its infecting medical staff more easily, it is requiring more protective gear, once hospitals run out of those, more medical staff will get infected, reducing capacity further.
The United States is 33 times the size of Italy. The nightmare scenario is when we have the same number of deaths per day as Italy in each state.
Surgical masks might be in short supply later on. I'd recommend at least waiting for symptoms before even wearing them for now.
I'm not an expert on this topic, so please take everything I say with a grain of salt.
Yes, but it is not common.
It was listed on a the Doctor office chart showing the major differences between cold/flu/corona.
"Clinicians must bear in mind that digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea, may be a presenting feature of COVID-19, and that the index of suspicion may need to be raised earlier in these cases rather than waiting for respiratory symptoms to emerge," authors of the study wrote.
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It is also due to intergenerational households. This bolds badly for Latinamerica
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Paulo Dybala from Juventus confirmed with Coronavirus alongside his girlfriend.
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1241430061804408839?s=19
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1241430061804408839?s=19
Right? Me too! Not often that I get heated up too when someone literally screams at an ignorant human being. He tries so hard to put some common human sense into those people but nada.
China began their lockdowns when they were detecting 400 cases per day, Italy began to lock down when they were detecting 1500 cases per day. If anything, it's actually remarkable how closely the fatality trend is tracking China's.
What we'll begin to learn over the next week is what effect Italy's lockdown measures have had.
Here's a typical greeting used in Italy, Spain, and France. Easy to see how transmissions could be high
So 2800 people total died in Italy today? Is there a source for that?
Are states that haven't started implementing tighter guidelines or lockdowns idiots? Or is there a chance some states don't need to be as bad with lockdowns?
Keep in mind though that culture is flexible. When people are scared, they start taking precautions.Here's a typical greeting used in Italy, Spain, and France. Easy to see how transmissions could be high
I really hope that more companies with any capability to make masks, PPE, and ventilators do whatever they can.
Clothing companies, car companies, literally anyone that can do something.
Clothing companies, car companies, literally anyone that can do something.
No one without symptoms, outside of medics, should be throwing away masks after a single use. If you're worried about contamination you can sterilise it or simply quarantine it for a week.
Per capita Washington State's testing is comparable to countries like Germany and Canada. The US as a whole may be lagging on testing but Washington State has been testing extensively.
Ok, but still, these changes now would be reflective of infections almost 2 weeks ago. Not reflective of any recent measures taken, like social distancing.
I really hope she had some serious underlying conditions because that is scary as fuck.
For sure things will change in the future. Hopefully the natural personal space more common in other countries keeps the spread down.
Tests in WA are still lacking. Only severe cases are looked at for now.
that is awful. Unless the article is missing something seems like she was a healthy 39 year old. So damn scary.
What's the last thing she said? He replied with 'I don't care about that'.
Bernie not so much. He's been streaming pretty much daily and seems fine. But when was the last time anyone seen Biden?
Since Seattle is where most of this started in the US, the local area has been reacting to a heightened state well before the rest of the country started catching up.
Maybe the flattening of the cases there will prove to be an anomaly but it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest to find that Seattle area (followed by Washington State) could be on a different part of the curve than much of the rest of the country.
Thanks I want to show them this. They don't believe stuff I say unless they hear about it by a more credible source (sure I can be wrong on ocassion, but I'm tired of blindly believing this kind of stuff instead of these facts I've been reading).
This just gives me chills. She barely showed symptoms and died days later. I wonder if there were any underlying health concerns that she might have been unaware of?