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In November my mom had an MS flare that caused a seizure while she was visiting for Thanksgiving. She was hospitalized for over a week. Since she still lived in the tiny ass rural village I grew up in, the decision was made for her and my step dad to move in with us. My brother in law was already living with us.
So now, my house contains:
Three healthy teens
1 43 year, obese and with gout
1 42 year old, functional alcoholic, also with gout
Me, 38, with autoimmune diseases
1 73 year on blood thinners
My mom, 68, with active MS
I am really worried. Currently the only people leaving the house are my husband and his brother for work, but
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Yeah. Ended up being the worst time to move the parents in.
Whatever decision you make, godspeed
I fear the actual number in the UK is going to be crazy high. I've been on phone support for my company this week as the phone lines are crazy busy and I've spoke to lots and lots of people that have called the NHS with symptoms and just been told to Self isolate with zero test. One particular chap was coughing so much that it was hard for him to get a word in with me.
Best post in a long time! Thanks for making me laugh :)I've been checking in daily for TP at my local supermarket. No dice. (Netherlands)
Two rolls left. Dawn of the final week.
As expected my father in law isn't following self quarantine in Canada even though he flew in from Florida yesterday.
Asked if he could come over and he was offended and hung up when we said no.
My dad on the other hand is a nurse and came and brought me some masks he had at home lol.
Asked if he could come over and he was offended and hung up when we said no.
My dad on the other hand is a nurse and came and brought me some masks he had at home lol.
Haha. I'm glad :D
Dire times we live in. Never thought I'd empathize with the toilet dweller from MM!
I rather not imagine what this would mean. If the economy collapses, it will only take so long until people can't pay their rent or home anymore. I have no idea how all of this would untold but that's not something I want to think about right now. Because if we go that way of thinking you're gonna start living in fear and that really won't help anyone and anything.
Everything that moves was ofcourse an exageration, but to compare, as of two days ago the Netherlands has tested somewhere between 12000 and 22000 (the maximum, keeping with the ~8% positive rate for tests mentioned by the RIVM for non-targeted testing), of which at that time 1705 were positive. On a per population basis, Germany has tested way more extensively.
EDIT: accidentaly used data from two different days.
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An Italian town tested all 3,300 residents, found 3% positive and 1.5% asymptomatic. After quarantining them and their contacts, it cut new COVID-19 cases to zero.
This is how you stop a Pandemic: YOU TEST AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN, and I used caps because our governments should all learn this lesson for the next one in the future.
This is how you stop a Pandemic: YOU TEST AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN, and I used caps because our governments should all learn this lesson for the next one in the future.
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Just heard on the local radio station that a lot of locations that do tests in larger cities here in Germany are starting to run out of PPE and can no longer test. Also apparently you will not get tested if you have all he symptoms if you can not proof (what?!) that you had contact with someone that tested positive. Take it with a grain of salt since it was just on local news radio.
The problem is that at the moment, nobody can test more because of shortages in testing equipment. It would be perfect if you could quarantine an entire country one week, and just test everybody.
I live in Asia, and the past two weeks I have been working like a dog. It has been the busiest March in 3 years, with an avalanche of PRC deals, and regional private equity (who are notoriously sensitive to liquidity, crisis and pricing) being quite active.
I have no god like understanding of why this is, but my supposition is that, following three months of down time, and given the region is now managed (rather than unmanageable), there is a pent up demand and bounceback.
That suggests to me that, notwithstanding economic fears, it will actually be better for the West in 2-3 months. Think of it like an extended holiday (a bit like how France shuts down for the whole of August) with a real desire to do business and get back to work after it.
tl;dr - They don't appear to be testing enough and potential outbreaks are going unseen and unreported?
Wow, a small town has tested more than my country. Apparently Finland has the capacity to test 1500/day but only has tested 3000 total.
I was wondering about Japan. That article does not inspire confidence that Japan can keep numbers down.
That is a fantastic post that everybody should read. I find this picture illustrates it rather well:
someone else may have more exact numbers. But I think >9,000. I've been following this site from Johns Hopkins University which gets updated regularly but still lags a bit. I'm not sure if the latest ~500 Italy deaths are on there, etc. I think it is safe to say we are likely over 10k today.
And here is the mobile version
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yes yesterday was the worst day so far, both worldwide and in the U.S. I'd expect things to continue to get far worse in the U.S. as adequate testing comes on line. Like I think NYC numbers are going to get absolutely horrifying soon/
Just think about this: If you have all your population wearing masks, you are effectively reducing the chances for community transmission because this virus is 80% asymptomatic. Masks are not necessarily preventing you from catching it, but they are effectively protecting you from other people who might be silently spreading it.
yeah but that's impossible.
We don't have enough masks for the doctors etc.
Where are you from? I too feel like that here in Chile. Health Minister doesn't respect health professionals. He holds a grudge because he was expelled by medic's associations.
340+ cases already. The fastest rate after China, in the world. 103 in just one day. In a 17 million people population. I could do all my work from home but boss said no, because the govt doesn't take extreme measures.
For now, of course. These are lessons to be learned for the future.
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Doctors need n95. A non n95 mask works for keeping most of it from getting on others.
Masks do absolutely zero for a virus that is most likely spreading by surface touching vectors. All you do is touch your face once when you have been exposed, even on the mask, and your chance of infection is very high.
And if it was airborne, these masks don't filter it anyways outside of true medical ones.
Has the news of the Amazon warehouse worker in New York been posted yet?
variety.com
Amazon Confirms First Case of Coronavirus Infection by U.S. Warehouse Employee
An Amazon worker at a New York shipping facility tested positive for coronavirus, the first known case among U.S. warehouse employees.
variety.com
I repeated this mantra for a while, but I'm honestly not sure. Masks provide at least two barriers from your mouth to their mouth if you cough. Even a non filtering mask will capture a decent amount of the particles just by being a barrier. It also physically stops you from touching the parts of your face where the virus can enter your body.
someone else may have more exact numbers. But I think >9,000. I've been following this site from Johns Hopkins University which gets updated regularly but still lags a bit. I'm not sure if the latest ~500 Italy deaths are on there or the ~400 from Netherlands, etc. I think it is safe to say we are likely over 10k today.
And here is the mobile version
400 deaths in the Netherlands? That is just not true.
Netherlands has 76 confirmed deaths total, what are these numbers?someone else may have more exact numbers. But I think >9,000. I've been following this site from Johns Hopkins University which gets updated regularly but still lags a bit. I'm not sure if the latest ~500 Italy deaths are on there or the ~400 from Netherlands, etc. I think it is safe to say we are likely over 10k today.
And here is the mobile version
oh shit. sorry that is not what I meant to say. I meant 400 new positive cases will edit
Weeks Before Virus Panic, Intelligence Chairman Privately Raised Alarm, Sold Stocks
Sen. Richard Burr issued a warning at a private event weeks ago to prepare for dire effects from the coronavirus, going further than his more public comments, according to a recording obtained by NPR.
www.npr.org
Weeks Before Virus Panic, Intelligence Chairman Privately Raised Alarm, Sold Stocks
Sen. Richard Burr issued a warning at a private event weeks ago to prepare for dire effects from the coronavirus, going further than his more public comments, according to a recording obtained by NPR.
If this continues to worsen, Trump needs to step down.
I think masks work well and probably why other Asian countries aren't seeing the outbreak. Seems to be western people saying they don't do much or nothing at all.
If I'm in a shop and someone is coughing and putting covid19 droplets in the air, me and others will inhale it but a mask can stop all or nearly all becoming airborne. Just think how fast it can multiply if a few people close to this person get the virus and who they pass it on to and so on, more and more coughing into the air.
I see people coughing onto food shelves spraying packaging.
What you need to do though is replace them often
If I'm in a shop and someone is coughing and putting covid19 droplets in the air, me and others will inhale it but a mask can stop all or nearly all becoming airborne. Just think how fast it can multiply if a few people close to this person get the virus and who they pass it on to and so on, more and more coughing into the air.
I see people coughing onto food shelves spraying packaging.
What you need to do though is replace them often
It stops instant infection but unless you change the mask within say 20 minutes and saturation begins to occur from your breath, it's effectiveness basically disappears. Remember, if the Virus gets on the mask, it is going to be alive for hours on it.
Now you can make an argument that everyone coughing should wear one to stop it from getting on surfaces as easily. I would be ok with that, but that is what most research has stated. It is best for those who are already sick, not for prevention.
