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Kodoku

Member
Sep 20, 2019
203
Not really...if lots of people hoard then we get situations like this.

He's talking about those who have a stock way ahead of time. I didn't need to rush out as I have enough TP, cleaning stuff, frozen veggies, canned goods, pasta, etc from purchasing stuff when on sale months ago. I keep on top of of my inventory, use one buy 2 when I see on sale for next time. Like right now, i have 3 loaves of bread frozen in the freezer. For those extreme couponers, they're probably all set also. A freezer chest is a good investment.
 

Maquiladora

Member
Nov 16, 2017
5,070
Wuhan got their first case December and they're still mitigating the virus as much as possible. I expect this to last well into July/August.

and this is with draconian lockdown measures

Far more draconian measures than anywhere else. Measures which the overwhelming majority of the population took very seriously.

Also...their lockdown began when the number of cases in Wuhan was about 500...
 

SpookyLettuce

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May 26, 2018
340
And he is back

Posted by alr1ght



Oh my god, fuck him. He absolutely knows what he's doing and probably welcomes fanning the flames of racism against Asian people in the US right now.

I'm Korean and I was already wary about walking down the street to grab groceries last week. My cousin told me the other day that she could feel people staring at her when she was out and about.
 
May 26, 2018
23,994
Oh my god, fuck him. He absolutely knows what he's doing and probably welcomes fanning the flames of racism against Asian people in the US right now.

I'm Korean and I was already wary about walking down the street to grab groceries last week. My cousin told me the other day that she could feel people staring at her when she was out and about.

As the deaths ramp up, scared and frustrated isolated people will attack Asians. Families will suffer the wrath of the stupid and the hateful. We've seen what Trump's rhetoric has encouraged already.

But others will fight to protect them. Don't know where or when, but Asians won't be alone. Americans won't be alone. People will not be alone. We'll make it through this together, even as we are encouraged to stay apart.

Hang in there.
 

-Devious-

Member
Oct 25, 2017
202
This whole situation reminds me of my poor mother who died from heart complications this past January. In the end, she contracted Influenza and it ended her life. Sometimes I wonder what if she recovered and then this happens.
 
Jul 5, 2019
260
I was able to stay mentally sound during the first week or so of quarantine, trying to hold out hope that this will pass over sooner rather than later, but hoo boy am I already starting to lose that calm. My partner, one of my closest friends, and several of my family members are at risk, and while my parents are in good health, they're self-employed in real estate & school photography so they're definitely not going to have much business soon. (Oh, and they have my two younger siblings to take care of... fun.) Gosh, my mental health was dodgy enough before this mess, and this whole situation is going to get worse before it gets better. Still holding out hope that this will pass sooner than later, and that none of my friends or family will be majorly affected, but... yeah. It's not looking so hot.
 

darkwing

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Oct 25, 2017
14,947
www.independent.ie

Coronavirus: Irish-developed kit that confirms Covid-19 infection in 15 minutes could be released in seven days

An Irish company is preparing to release rapid Covid-19 testing kits, which can provide results in 15 minutes and potentially act as a "clinical weapon" against coronavirus.

o reddit


this is good news, fighting the virus should be a worldwide effort

like in Contagion
 

Labyrinthe

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Mar 12, 2018
952
Going to write this little story about somehow some good stuff happening here in Quebec, Montreal. In Quebec, all schools, university, public place have been closed starting today, some place have been lowered for crowd activities. Yesterday i was having major anxiety about taking the subway to get to my job. To my surprise, not only the subway were like at like only 20% about capacity, but people were understanding the problem it seem cause we were all like standing at a few feet if possible from each other. I still feel not secure like everyone else about the situation, but if there is some area in the states or in the world that have a major subway transportation, and they still have their schools running, i think only this single step can help a lot to reduce the spreading. Anyway with this, i think i will sleep a little bit better, cause in fact, was anxious about it during all weekend. After the crazy Thursday we got on our side that cases double, sports shutting down, wife of PM got virus, PM on lockdown, did not work Friday but went in the morning get some groceries ( and felt like an idiot because because i really need to buy one pack of toilet paper, my last roll was at 10%! ) and saw after on TV that people were nearly fighting each other at Costco, well, like anyone else, stress level spiked.

Pretty sure a lot here are currently living more stressful situation, just want to share this story, maybe vent a bit, but feel a bit less stressed since i need to get to work, working in a mandatory service and need to take the subway to get to my job. More stressful thing are probably coming, cant do anything about, but going to spread the word all, keep your distance, wash your hands, dont touch your face. We cant stop thinking its temporary, and it need to be done. Convince younger people about the seriousness of the situation, tell them they might not get any signs at all and hold the virus up to 14 days in them, spread it, just get like a cold symptoms .Its serious. If our world is getting shutdown, its not just a bigger cold.

Tried to find some new about how it was this morning in Montreal in english but only found an article about it in french:

www.lapresse.ca

Un lundi sans heure de pointe à Montréal

Les enfants à la maison, des autobus presque vides, des restaurants et cafés beaucoup moins fréquentés ou fermés… Lundi matin, Montréal fonctionnait au ralenti, alors que les mesures visant à ralentir la propagation de la COVID-19 s’intensifient.

Good luck to you all, we will need it.

Legault and everyone in Québec is doing a super nice job with all the measures announced. Really happy that they are forward thinking. Even the mayor of Montreal was tired of waiting a move from Trudeau and sent people to help at the airport to check people in/out.
 

TwntyOneTwlv

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Oct 25, 2017
3,595
Ohio
So for a place like Pennsylvania that's implementing a statewide shutdown, what does that mean exactly? What is a "nonessential" business? Like, I work for a plumbing company. Would that be considered "nonessential"? Or what about the hardware stores and supply houses where we get all of our materials from?

I'm so scared that Ohio is going to be doing the same thing soon, and our company is going to be forced to go out of business.
 

RealCanadianBro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,193
Update: The dental office that my mother works at just got shutdown for two weeks and they'll be collecting unemployment benefits for the time being. Glad to see that she was celebrating the time off lol.
 

mjc

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,879
So for a place like Pennsylvania that's implementing a statewide shutdown, what does that mean exactly? What is a "nonessential" business? Like, I work for a plumbing company. Would that be considered "nonessential"? Or what about the hardware stores and supply houses where we get all of our materials from?

I'm so scared that Ohio is going to be doing the same thing soon, and our company is going to be forced to go out of business.

Those would be considered nonessential, yes.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
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Oct 25, 2017
11,410
So for a place like Pennsylvania that's implementing a statewide shutdown, what does that mean exactly? What is a "nonessential" business? Like, I work for a plumbing company. Would that be considered "nonessential"? Or what about the hardware stores and supply houses where we get all of our materials from?

I'm so scared that Ohio is going to be doing the same thing soon, and our company is going to be forced to go out of business.

www.lehighvalleylive.com

Pa. state shutdown: What’s staying open, what’s closing in coronavirus fight | What is a nonessential business?

To thwart COVID-19, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf is asking nonessential businesses to close for two weeks. What is a nonessential business? What does that mean for liquor stores, gyms, theaters and grocery stores?

  • Pharmacies, supermarkets and convenience stores are considered essential.
  • All medical and healthcare facilities.
  • Restaurants should stay open but only for carryout and delivery, not for sit-down dining.
  • Food processing, agriculture and industrial manufacturing.
  • Home and auto repair, hardware and construction.
  • Trash collection.
  • Post offices.
  • Banks and insurance.
  • Gas stations.
  • Laundromats.
  • Vets and pet stores.
  • Warehousing, storage and distribution.
  • Public transportation.
  • Hotel and commercial lodging.


Other businesses like legal services, business consulting and other professional services are encouraged to have employees work remotely, telecommute or at the very least practice social distancing and avoid groups of 10 or more people.



What's closing? These kinds of businesses are considered non-essential:


  • Community and recreation centers.
  • Gyms, including yoga, spin and barre facilities.
  • Hair and nail salons and spas.
  • Casinos, concert venues and theaters.
  • Bars and liquor stores.
  • Sports facilities and golf courses.
  • Most retail facilities, including shopping malls.

so it looks like yours wouldn't have to close but it'd be largely up to its owners
 

Psychotext

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Oct 30, 2017
16,675
In an airport and seeing numerous examples of why people who don't know how to wear masks should stay the fuck away from wearing masis.
 

nexus

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Oct 25, 2017
3,644
So for a place like Pennsylvania that's implementing a statewide shutdown, what does that mean exactly? What is a "nonessential" business? Like, I work for a plumbing company. Would that be considered "nonessential"? Or what about the hardware stores and supply houses where we get all of our materials from?

I'm so scared that Ohio is going to be doing the same thing soon, and our company is going to be forced to go out of business.

PA was a bit vague in their description "Non-essential businesses include community and recreation centers; gyms, including yoga, barre and spin facilities; hair salons, nail salons and spas; casinos; concert venues; theaters; bars; sporting event venues and golf courses; retail facilities, including shopping malls and except for pharmacy or other health care facilities within retail operations. Restaurants are urged only to remain open for carry-out and delivery orders. "

They will apparently be releasing more guidelines in the future. I myself would consider plumbing essential, at least limited to emergency calls.
 

DarkMagician

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Oct 25, 2017
1,153
User Banned (1 Month): Ignoring staff post with regard to dismissiveness; inappropriate commentary on a sensitive topic
This is going to be a stupid question, but why is the panic resulting if people who are close to dying anyways (e.g. over 80; already have pre-existing major health complications) will be the only ones affected?
 

Addi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,223
On a roll: The psychology behind toilet paper panic

At its most basic, say experts, the answer lies in game theory: If everyone buys only what they need, there will be no shortages. If some people start panic buying, the optimal strategy will be for you to follow suit, to make certain you have enough squares to spare.

But this doesn't explain it entirely -- toilet paper can't save you from infection, and we haven't yet seen the same level of hoarding for more key items like canned foods -- so something else is clearly afoot.

"I think it probably stuck out in the dramatic images in social media because it was quite clear, the packets are quite distinctive and it's become associated in the minds of people as a symbol of safety," Steven Taylor, author of "The Psychology of Pandemics" told AFP.

"People feel the need to do something to keep themselves and their family safe, because what else can they do apart from wash their hands and self-isolate?" added the psychiatry professor at the University of British Columbia.

Another theory Taylor put forward is rooted in our evolutionary aversion to things which disgust us, heightened when people feel threatened with infection.

"And so I think this is one reason they latched on to the toilet paper, because it's a means of avoiding disgust."

- Taking control -

Economists have also suggested people may be trying to eliminate one risk that is relatively easy and superficial, rather than doing something more costly that may reduce their risk a greater amount.

This is known as "Zero risk bias."

"My guess is we want to feel in control and have limited budgets," said Farasat Bokhari, a health economist at the University of East Anglia in Great Britain.

"So we go buy something that is cheap to buy, that we can store, and we know at the back of our minds that we are going to use anyway," he said.

A more expensive but necessary item to stock might be non-perishable food -- but if frozen meals, canned foods and ramen aren't exactly your favorites, you could be stuck with a big bill for items you eventually throw away, should the worst fail to materialize.
 

DarthWoo

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Oct 27, 2017
2,658
Stupid question, but why not ramp up production anyway. Someone is gonna need them.
I know circumstances are a little different than back then, but this country built tens of thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of planes, and over a thousand warships (not the least of which were the over one hundred carriers (yeah, most were escort carriers, but those were still tough little ships) in less than five years, much of that being built in retooled car factories. There is absolutely no excuse for us not to be able to do something on a similar scale with medical devices in such a dire crisis. There are a hell of a lot of active duty military personnel not currently overseas who probably really don't have anything better to do right now. Lord knows we keep throwing seemingly endless amounts of money to the military that ultimately ends up being used for nothing productive.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,410
This is going to be a stupid question, but why is the panic resulting if people who are close to dying anyways (e.g. over 80; already have pre-existing major health complications) will be the only ones affected?

you still get sick. it affects people with pre existing conditions. if you get sick it affects those around you i.e. parents with kids they have to care for. most people have older people they care about. the obvious impact on jobs, the markets, supply chains, etc. and that's just naming a few
 

Chikor

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
14,239
This is going to be a stupid question, but why is the panic resulting if people who are close to dying anyways (e.g. over 80; already have pre-existing major health complications) will be the only ones affected?
Outside being terribly cruel, what you're saying is also really not true, at all.
Even ignoring the fact that young and healthy people can die from this virus and that old and sick people's lives are not worthless, once hospitals collapse, people start dying from preventable diseases and injuries.
 

Scuffed

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Oct 28, 2017
10,827
This is going to be a stupid question, but why is the panic resulting if people who are close to dying anyways (e.g. over 80; already have pre-existing major health complications) will be the only ones affected?

We don't want old people to die but if you truly don't care about them then how about this. Hospitals will be overrun with the sick meaning many Healthcare services will collapse which will mean no surgeries, chemo or help for any other ailment. This will result in all age groups suffering as there are no beds left.
 

XMonkey

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Oct 26, 2017
6,827
Outside being terribly cruel, what you're saying is also really not true, at all.
Even ignoring the fact that young and healthy people can die from this virus and that old and sick people's lives are not worthless, once hospitals collapse, people start dying from preventable diseases and injuries.
Exactly.

Got in a car accident and need dire medical attention? Sorry, ICU is overflowing with infectious sick people right now. Good luck.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,318
I know circumstances are a little different than back then, but this country built tens of thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of planes, and over a thousand warships (not the least of which were the over one hundred carriers (yeah, most were escort carriers, but those were still tough little ships) in less than five years, much of that being built in retooled car factories. There is absolutely no excuse for us not to be able to do something on a similar scale with medical devices in such a dire crisis. There are a hell of a lot of active duty military personnel not currently overseas who probably really don't have anything better to do right now. Lord knows we keep throwing seemingly endless amounts of money to the military that ultimately ends up being used for nothing productive.

This. And people who need work can help with this effort. It's win-win.