Not making it up
It was like I was watching an episode of the twilight zone. Guy is a fucking ass but if he can convince that audience it's "not just the flu" and keep people from going about and spreading it to more people or getting the more vulnerable sick...then good.
Tucker Carlson delivers coronavirus warning as his Fox colleagues attack media's coverage
While some of his colleagues have downplayed coronavirus fears, Tucker Carlsonover the last few weeks has taken a much different approach.www.cnn.com
Not true. There are 2.9k positives on Madrid + 3.6k being attended under suspicion. If they were counting that, we'd be well over 10k.
FUCK
SHE TESTED POSITIVE, She went up in the commons and everything, i just came back from there.....god damn it
Wut? So ibuprofen makes it worse??
I def. need more info on this.
"Anti-inflammatory drugs have an immunosuppressive effect" - that is to say that inhibits the activity of the immune system - "which promotes infections. They have a 'booster' effect", explains to franceinfo Alexandre Bleibtreu, infectious disease doctor at the Pitié-Salpêtrière in Paris. "They can also mask symptoms and have harmful side effects," adds Astrid Vabret, head of the virology department at the CHU de Caen.
Alexandre Bleitreu remembers that problems were noted "during the epidemic of Mers", another coronavirus. "The addition of corticosteroids worsened the prognosis and led to complications with bacterial infections."
Oh wait. Does that mean that stuff like Desloratadin would affect this negatively too? Desloratadin is cortisone or not? Stuff against allergies? This is a question btw, I'm not sure. But I'm allergic.
Coronavirus : pourquoi le ministre de la Santé déconseille la prise d'anti-inflammatoires, qui pourraient aggraver l'infection
Olivier Véran a recommandé, samedi, de lutter contre la fièvre avec du paracétamol, plutôt que de l'ibuprofène ou de la cortisone. Les patients sous anti-inflammatoires pour d'autres maladies sont invités à demander conseil à leur médecin.www.francetvinfo.fr
Thank you for your insight.Desloratadin is not a corticosteroid, so it's not the same pharmaceutical class than cortisone. It's what we call an ani-histamininc. They are not known as having side effects such as worsening viral infections.
Regarding nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofene, I suppose it's very plausible they can worsen a corconavirus infection. It's already a known fact in medicine those drugs can worsen viral infections of the ottorhinolaryngology sphere, and of the upper and lower respiratory system. So, i'ts not so surprising it can be the case with coronavirus.
So yeah, in case of fever, people have to use paracetamiol (acetaminophen in north america) only.
BTW, I'm a MD.
Crap. I'm kinda addicted to iboprofen, because I have regular headaches. 😞Coronavirus : pourquoi le ministre de la Santé déconseille la prise d'anti-inflammatoires, qui pourraient aggraver l'infection
Olivier Véran a recommandé, samedi, de lutter contre la fièvre avec du paracétamol, plutôt que de l'ibuprofène ou de la cortisone. Les patients sous anti-inflammatoires pour d'autres maladies sont invités à demander conseil à leur médecin.www.francetvinfo.fr
Desloratadin is not a corticosteroid, so it's not the same pharmaceutical class than cortisone. It's what we call an ani-histamininc. They are not known as having side effects such as worsening viral infections.
Regarding nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofene, I suppose it's very plausible they can worsen a corconavirus infection. It's already a known fact in medicine those drugs can worsen viral infections of the ottorhinolaryngology sphere, and of the upper and lower respiratory system. So, i'ts not so surprising it can be the case with coronavirus.
So yeah, in case of fever, people have to use paracetamiol (acetaminophen in north america) only.
BTW, I'm a MD.
Crap. I'm kinda addicted to iboprofen, because I have regular headaches. 😞
Starting Monday 8am, people in Spain will no longer be allowed to leave their homes unless for one of the following reasons:
- The acquisition of foods, pharmaceuticals and essential items.
- Access to healthcare centers.
- Journeys to workplaces or to carry out labor, professional or company duties
- Return journeys to habitual residences
- Assistance for and care of seniors, minors, dependants, the disabled or vulnerable people.
- Journeys to financial institutions.
- For reasons of force majeure or situations of necessity.
- Any other activity that is justifiably necessary.
PM due to make statement after seven-hour debate on state of alert measures
Draft decree includes banning all journeys in Spain apart from travel to work or to buy food. The delay on Saturday was reportedly due to differences between the Socialists and their coalition partners, Unidas Podemosenglish.elpais.com
Not making it up
It was like I was watching an episode of the twilight zone. Guy is a fucking ass but if he can convince that audience it's "not just the flu" and keep people from going about and spreading it to more people or getting the more vulnerable sick...then good.
Tucker Carlson delivers coronavirus warning as his Fox colleagues attack media's coverage
While some of his colleagues have downplayed coronavirus fears, Tucker Carlsonover the last few weeks has taken a much different approach.www.cnn.com
Desloratadin is not a corticosteroid, so it's not the same pharmaceutical class than cortisone. It's what we call an ani-histamininc. They are not known as having side effects such as worsening viral infections.
Regarding nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofene, I suppose it's very plausible they can worsen a corconavirus infection. It's already a known fact in medicine those drugs can worsen viral infections of the ottorhinolaryngology sphere, and of the upper and lower respiratory system. So, i'ts not so surprising it can be the case with coronavirus.
So yeah, in case of fever, people have to use paracetamol (acetaminophen in north america) only.
BTW, I'm a MD.
Huff, thanks for your reply. Feels a lot better now, because I was getting some cortisone back then and was getting really a bit anxious just now.
So paracetamol on case of fever it is, and I can continue with Deslo..
There is currently a social media warning saying that taking ibuprofen causes severe Covid-19 history. The University Hospital Vienna is mentioned as an unofficial source. They distance thmselves from the claims and speak clearly of fake news.
Crap. I'm kinda addicted to iboprofen, because I have regular headaches. 😞
Unfortunately, same with my parentsWell, he might actually get through to my dad and stepmom, they watch him religiously :(.
Indeed. I hope it's because of us all staying inside more.
I asked about it in whatsapp groups... basically in cities as close to Madrid as Toledo (with a lot of people going back and forth to work/leisure), people were still crowding bars and parks this morning while the ICUs are already rejecting patients that are too old. Since people are going to act as assholes, they'll have to be treated as assholes unfortunately.
We've been saying for days that Spain was going to be the next Italy since it had the same trajectory. Yet the government waited and waited and only now they are acting, it's good they are taking extreme measures, but they could've acted way sooner, with people going on holidays and kids going out everyday the virus is probably everywhere, same situation as Italy.
I just read on Hart van Nederland that The Netherlands isn't testing people with mild symptoms anymore. People with mild symptoms need to stay in their homes. This means that there are probably more cases which are just not being tested.
We've been saying for days that Spain was going to be the next Italy since it had the same trajectory. Yet the government waited and waited and only now they are acting, it's good they are taking extreme measures, but they could've acted way sooner, with people going on holidays and kids going out everyday the virus is probably everywhere, same situation as Italy.
Here in Denmark, they are closing schools and sending all non essential public sector personal home. However, they have emergency care keeping things open for kids of essential personal so it's not really an issue.Sorry. this is not a situation I really understood. I was thinking in terms of closing schools to keep kids and their families from infecting each other.
Thanks for clarifying the issue.
Same thing in Denmark. Even if you are old (around 70)I just read on Hart van Nederland that The Netherlands isn't testing people with mild symptoms anymore. People with mild symptoms need to stay in their homes. This means that there are probably more cases which are just not being tested.
Ah shit :/ How's the overall mood in Tilburg btw(saw it on your profile)? I'm in A'dam and even though people have started realizing what's happening there's still way too many not giving a shit.I just read on Hart van Nederland that The Netherlands isn't testing people with mild symptoms anymore. People with mild symptoms need to stay in their homes. This means that there are probably more cases which are just not being tested.
Us probably