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I mean, I love donuts too, but this is at least something that can be done to mitigate things a little bit. I don't want to be pushy to anyone, but it is worth something to seriously consider right now. (Might even be worth making a topic on to help motivate others, but I'm not the best fitness person myself... Something to keep people focused on, with everything going on.)
Italy criticises EU for being slow to help over coronavirus epidemic
Italian ambassador says Brussels has to ‘go beyond engagement and consultations’www.theguardian.com
All these praise for China - ah yes, where government tried to silence and punish one doctor who saw the danger before anyone else.
Not the newest news but since it's easy for stories to get lost:
www.jpost.com
Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.
www.jpost.com
Not the newest news but since it's easy for stories to get lost:
Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.
You can make a vaccine in a couple days.
It's going through trials, making sure that it's actually safe and effective that will take time. A year minimum.'
Am I crazy and being overly cautious or is my family crazy?
We have 4 birthdays in the next week and 1 big party planned for Sunday. Saturday is my nephew's wedding shower with a bunch of strangers. I have a 6 day trip planned for next week to Memphis for a convention.
I cancelled all of it tonight.
My family isn't raging mad at me but seem disappointed, and my mom and sister in the same text thread were basically saying "No biggie, I'm living my life let's do it all!!!"
That seemed....odd to me.
My whole family except me are diehard Trump loving Republicans who literally watch Fox News all day everyday (I visit often - it drives me crazy).
So I still love them even though we hardcore disagree on politics, but I feel like they are just going on with life right now like nothing is happening and there is no reason to worry which is.....concerning to me.
My 92 year old grandmother lives with my parents and my dad is 67 with prostate cancer and they just...don't seem worried.
Should I just keep my mouth shut?
I'm basically in self quarantine right now. I'm not going out to do anything I don't have to and I feel like that is the smart, responsible thing to do but my fam made me feel sorrrrta crazy tonight lol.
Family. What are you gonna do!!
We have 4 birthdays in the next week and 1 big party planned for Sunday. Saturday is my nephew's wedding shower with a bunch of strangers. I have a 6 day trip planned for next week to Memphis for a convention.
I cancelled all of it tonight.
My family isn't raging mad at me but seem disappointed, and my mom and sister in the same text thread were basically saying "No biggie, I'm living my life let's do it all!!!"
That seemed....odd to me.
My whole family except me are diehard Trump loving Republicans who literally watch Fox News all day everyday (I visit often - it drives me crazy).
So I still love them even though we hardcore disagree on politics, but I feel like they are just going on with life right now like nothing is happening and there is no reason to worry which is.....concerning to me.
My 92 year old grandmother lives with my parents and my dad is 67 with prostate cancer and they just...don't seem worried.
Should I just keep my mouth shut?
I'm basically in self quarantine right now. I'm not going out to do anything I don't have to and I feel like that is the smart, responsible thing to do but my fam made me feel sorrrrta crazy tonight lol.
Family. What are you gonna do!!
Who will play Tom Hanks in the movie about his ordeal? Hopefully, the doomed proposal of such a move will at least make some Australians ponder what they have been subjecting refugees to.
Meanwhile in NZ, there are murmurings we'll be getting a lot stricter on our border control. Being so dependent on international trade to even function I can't see that extending as far as stopping shipping. However, I could envisage some far reaching travel bans.
It could be much more than that.
330 million Americans * 70% infection rate * 4% death rate = 9.2 million
That's a high estimate, but possible if containment fails (which increasingly people believe that it will since we waited too long).
You're not overly cautious, it is your family that doesn't understand the situation at all.
I wouldn't try to convince them otherwise, they seem they don't want to listen to you.
Some recovered patients may have reduced lung function
www.scmp.com
Some recovered Covid-19 patients may have lung damage, doctors say
Hospital Authority releases its findings after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.
www.scmp.com
I take it you don't have kids.
Here's the rub: most healthcare professionals do have kids. If the schools close down they're forced to stay home and the already understaffed hospitals will definitely not be able to cope. If kids stay home they also come into contact with elderly and grandparents a lot more, potentially boosting the severe cases a manifold.
And there's not even particularly strong evidence that kids with next to no symptoms spread it, although it is indeed likely.
This is a delicate matter, but governments have compelling arguments not to close down (primary) schools.
Haha you were right, Dallas just cancelled any gatherings 500+. Not sure if the venue even has that capacity, but either way the band postponed their tour to the fall. SHITTY thing though, is even after the band cancelled the venue was posting on Facebook actively trying to sell more tickets.
Not good, sounds like SARSSome recovered patients may have reduced lung function
Some recovered Covid-19 patients may have lung damage, doctors say
Hospital Authority releases its findings after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.
you are right about that - if I try to make a case to them they will just hand wave it away because I'm a crazy liberal. I've been down that road with them (after Trump was elected), and there really isn't anything that can change their minds. Almost seems like they are brainwashed but they are generally smart people do it is driving me insane that I can't get them to see what is happening right now!
I really hope my dad or gma don't get this. They are both in the highest risk group - older and immunosuppressed :/
Scientists Flag Concerns Over Potential Coronavirus and Male Fertility Link
Over 75,000 cases and 2,000 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed since it emerged from China in late 2019.
www.newsweek.com
note: this study is not peer reviewed.
I was wondering when something like this would crop upScientists Flag Concerns Over Potential Coronavirus and Male Fertility Link
Over 75,000 cases and 2,000 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed since it emerged from China in late 2019.
Why not Nauru? I hear it's lovely this time of year.
Surely Parliament's out for a while, given the risk to their majority, followed by the health risk?
Classes just got temporarily suspended for me. The university I go to will update us on Sunday about their next steps and if classes can be resumed
If it spreads country wide, which looks likely, at least 5% of the population will need critical respiratory care of some kind
5% of the population is about 18 million
The US has less than 100.000 ICU beds
Stop quoting numbers like they are anywhere close to accurate, confirmed numbers are just that, confirmed cases, they mean shit if testing is close to non existent.
That white house doctor expected 70-150 million infected so 1 million death would be in line with that.
And that is on the good side of mortality. If it goes full italy it will be worse.
Want to know why Washington Closed schools/banned public gatherings? Gates Foundation/Institute of Disease Modeling/Fred Hutch found without Social distancing, 400+ deaths and 25k infections:
www.seattletimes.com
Short-staffed and undersupplied: Coronavirus crisis strains Seattle area’s capacity to deliver care
Now as cases of virus-stricken patients suffering from COVID-19 multiply, Seattle-area government and hospital officials are facing the real-life consequences of shortcomings they’ve documented on paper for years.
www.seattletimes.com
Some recovered patients may have reduced lung function
Some recovered Covid-19 patients may have lung damage, doctors say
Hospital Authority releases its findings after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.
This is the danger that was warned about before, even if you are young and have mild symptoms, you still could have permanent lung scarring and be out of breath for the rest of your life. Intense stuff
I sure wish there was serious consideration in setting up new, tent wings or something, to start prepping. I think China built a hospital in like a month? But we should get something started.... now.
Yes, I understand that argument and it's the exact reason the government chose to keep schools open. To me personally, all I see is higher potential for the kids to get sick through school, they bring it back home and then the parents working in healthcare will of course prioritise staying home taking care of said sick kids and also probably getting infected themself in the end.
(Self)Isolation is the only right answer as I see it, people are going to get infected hospitals will be sooner or later understaffed because of the rising numbers of infected. I don't see the benefits of keeping schools open at all.
He just recently returned from a trip to the US.
I said it earlier, but this reinforces it: based on the number of cases we're seeing here in Australia in people returning from the US, the situation there seems to be a lot worse than people realise. I wonder if we'll announce a US travel ban soon.
Really feels like we're being used as guinea pigs for their social experiment.
I don't think this happens to patients with mild symptoms? Pneumonia in general has the possibility to permanently damage lung tissue.
CHI huh? Yeah it had been brewing for some time. That travel ban certainly made it very difficult. Shame, I had a very good paper there and one of my colleagues is one of the general chairs 🙄.
The national government notified WHO 1 day after the Wuhan doctor was silenced. They didn't want to raise panic until the virus was identified. They didn't sit on their ass the whole time like our administration did. The Wuhan government acted like all the Western government after knowing about the virus. Put on a brave face and trade lives for the economy. In their defense it didn't seem all that serious at the time.
All levels of government at that time in China can actually legitimately use the excuse that they were blind sided. And they still managed to contain the virus.
Various companies around us closed shop. We are still operative, I suspect we'll continue until the government makes us stop or until we have an active case ourselves. I don't blame anybody for wanting to stop, but I believe continuing in our case makes sense. People work quite far apart from each other, a lot of people have masks, we've taken tons of precautions and given the countrywide restrictions people basically just roll between home and work, maybe buying groceries 1-2 times per week in the few open shops where few people are allowed in at any given time.
Think we minimized the risks as much as possible, but I also set up working from home for those roles where it would make sense. Now it's just a waiting game, really.
Think we minimized the risks as much as possible, but I also set up working from home for those roles where it would make sense. Now it's just a waiting game, really.
children of menScientists Flag Concerns Over Potential Coronavirus and Male Fertility Link
Over 75,000 cases and 2,000 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed since it emerged from China in late 2019.
note: this study is not peer reviewed.
Yup! Was meant to present too. What's your paper? For some reason our admins rushed the bookings through to get them in before the uni imposed travel limits. Super dumb, wasted tens of thousands on non-cancelable flights.
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1 million in America?
BS.
Just checked H1N1 and the wiki article linked me to this: https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates/April_March_13.htm
Apparently, H1N1, from CDC estimates, infected 60 million people, and killed 12k from April 2009 - March 2010.
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FUCK. Honestly, i dont know what to think about his tweet.
Not sure if this warrants a separate thread, but one thing that's interesting to me and very noticeable is that the Chinese have clearly weaponized their troll farms to control the narrative on the English-speaking Internet.
I followed the Reddit /r/CoronaVirus quite extensively since about mid January. It's where I found the videos of the CCP welding people into their apartment buildings and dragging people from their homes.
But within the last week or two, the voice of this subreddit has completely shifted. Now, anything that's critical of China is instantly downvoted to oblivion, while anything that paints the Chinese in a good light makes the front page.
I followed the Reddit /r/CoronaVirus quite extensively since about mid January. It's where I found the videos of the CCP welding people into their apartment buildings and dragging people from their homes.
But within the last week or two, the voice of this subreddit has completely shifted. Now, anything that's critical of China is instantly downvoted to oblivion, while anything that paints the Chinese in a good light makes the front page.
Thread on Wuhan lockdown, warns against wholesale adoption as once the population is let out, likely new infections will rise and we need to balance economic, social and personal effects vs the virus.
I know one of the British deaths was a 53 year old woman, neither of those are particular risk factors for this virus but she had hypertension and diabetes, the former of which has been identified as a major risk factor from some quick googling.
It could be a major killer in the west.
"Mild" symptoms in covid are classified as "not needing hospital stay" Everyone with Pneumonia SHOULD require a stay in a hospital, but we know how the US healthcare industry is.
Anyone who thinks they should just get Covid to get it over with is an idiot. Pneumonia doesn't care about age or healthiness. You can be classified as recovered and still have irreparable lung damage.
Yeah official standpoint is now that it's very unclear where it originated and unfortunately Wuhan was the first real outbreak but also the valiant start of the containment. I read an article yesterday that China was working very hard to get the Chinese connotation out of the Coronavirus. Can't find it now though. Makes me worried about whether something will really get done about the wildlife wet markets.
Eggman met with Ivanka Trump, William Barr and other high-ranking US officials days before he developed symptoms.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...s/news-story/c348b5e70d1f3dfad523a5bf41f2c584
So basically if the virus doesn't die out over spring/summer we will be in and out of quarantine for the whole year before we all get it.
First german states are closing down schools. The recommendation is to not bring children to grandparents, as old people are part of the vulnerable group.
The RKI (german CDC) has also mentioned that the goal is to stop the german health system from having to go into "triage"; the need to choose whom to treat and whom to let die.
They keep on repeating that most, healthy people will be mostly unaffected (low-mild symptoms) but that vulnerable groups (old, chronic ill, cancer patients, and many more) are in high danger.
The RKI (german CDC) has also mentioned that the goal is to stop the german health system from having to go into "triage"; the need to choose whom to treat and whom to let die.
They keep on repeating that most, healthy people will be mostly unaffected (low-mild symptoms) but that vulnerable groups (old, chronic ill, cancer patients, and many more) are in high danger.
H1N1 2009 had a mortality rate of like 0.002% while the current corona has a mortality of 1-2% (drastically increasing with more infected).