It's a bit like closing the barn doors when the horse is already gone
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It's a bit like closing the barn doors when the horse is already gone
Even if COVID-19 "only" killed 70,000 people a year, that's 70,000 people who'd be dying needlessly because you didn't bother enacting containment procedures. I've heard this crazy line of reasoning a few times: "oh, let's just let it become the new flu," as though having a new flu to deal with is just a minor consideration.
i can give you confirmation that they did NOT. Unless they said it after the press conference in someone's ear or i became selectively deaf.
It would only be useful for the few countries who only have a very low cases. Of course they will soon run into food and material shortage due to supply chain disruption.
There are no direct flights from Iran to Canada. You cannot stop Canadian citizens from returning from Iran, only ask them to quarantine upon their return
Because passenger travel is a drop in the bucket and locking down international travel is a great way to trap people in countries where their visa status is in question.
But even if you did that, you still need commercial flights. I am not sure how many countries are at the point where they aren't able to support themselves anymore but pretty much the entire planet's QOL would drop drastically if international commercial flights were stopped. And all the existing shortages would get MUCH worse.
Combine that with cutting off international flight only really being useful for protecting Australia and North/South America and it is just shooting the world economy in the leg for no real reason.
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Stopping cruises would be a good idea though.
I am assume that's because of the incubation period and the rate of infection. With Italy as an example of what we might begin to expect in the next few weeks.
I would like to know more about this as well. I've heard King County, Washington is considered to have one of the best public health departments in the country, so that's good.
Was there some kind of new hidden requirement that the global markets had to tank by a minimum of 15% for this to begin or something?
Edit: Oh and they're lying? Neat.
Besides all the fucked-up apathy and recklessness of the tweet...he's comparing a year's worth of impact to a few weeks. How does data and statistics work?
Well it's been 7 weeks since that first detected case in Washington (the person who flew in from Wuhan), which they were able to genetically match with the current outbreak that's being detected. The average incubation I believe has been found to be 6 days, so even accounting for rate of infection, I would expect there to be a lot more news about slammed hospitals. Hopefully this means that the strain hitting us is more mild than the Italian and Iranian strain.
Again I'm not stating that this isn't a big deal or isn't happening, I just am wondering about the situation or if there are news stories that I've missed.
"Werden direkt in Epidemiewelle hineinlaufen"
Zwar sei man in Deutschland auf den Kampf gegen das Coronavirus gut vorbereitet, eine "Epidemiewelle" sei dennoch kaum vermeidbar, so Virologe Prof. Dr. Drosten. Wovon der Eindruck rührt, hierzulande "glimpflich" davon zu kommen, erklärt er auf einer Pressekonferenz.www.n-tv.de
German Virologist in press conference: He basically says Germany will not be an exception.
Welp, that doesn't sound good. :(
He says based on a new US study he now thinks there's no point trying to delay this into spring and summer, because we will directly ride into an epidemic wave very soon and there's no big seasonal effect on the virus. He says we don't have much time to prepare and it's a very serious situation.
He also says there's so few deaths in Germany so far because we detected it very early. In other countries they only started testing a lot when there were already deaths.
Most people don't think that far. Read a sound bite, brain mush, I'm hungry.
Head of Port Authority in NY tests positive for COVID-19.
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Seattle and the surrounding area is the seat of a ton of medical and life sciences research and the University of Washington has some of the top facilities and medical training programs in the nation, so it's at least a bit reassuring. So far it seems that local health infrastructure hasn't been overwhelmed, but supplies are beginning to stretch thin and hospitals are rushing to prepare in anticipation of a looming influx.
U.S. Hospitals Prepare For A COVID-19 Wave
Hospitals are clearing space and preparing staff for a possible crush of patients needing critical care.
www.npr.org
Yes, the case numbers have been a little lower than predictions for the last couple of days. A quick non-linear regression predicts 425 cases tomorrow if the growth continues exponentially. Fingers crossed it will be less than this.
My Yorkshire supermarket has so much toilet paper they can't fit it on the shelves and have stacked it 6" tall on the floor in the aisles. I guess they heard about the panic and over-compensated!
"40 year ago we 'ad proper diseases like polio and dysentery...", "Toilet paper? We'd consider ourselves lucky if we 'ad a sheet of newspaper t' wipe our arse wit' ", etc...
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More than half of all the Covid19 patients worldwide recovered already.
In fact 62.277 people are immune to corona by now.
Please do not let all the negative news drag you down.
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#humanityisstrong
In fact 62.277 people are immune to corona by now.
Please do not let all the negative news drag you down.
#therearegoodnewstoo
#humanityisstrong
this is a country where you are more likely to die of a gunshot in chicago than coronavirus atm........difference being is gunshots are not insanely contagious and thank god for that.
We won't do anything until its near shit fest beyond the ceiling fan.
Doing nothing until shit hits the fan is really not a great tactic when it comes to pandemics.
Thank you — that's a good article.Seattle and the surrounding area is the seat of a ton of medical and life sciences research and the University of Washington has some of the top facilities and medical training programs in the nation, so it's at least a bit reassuring. So far it seems that local health infrastructure hasn't been overwhelmed, but supplies are beginning to stretch thin and hospitals are rushing to prepare in anticipation of a looming influx.
U.S. Hospitals Prepare For A COVID-19 Wave
Hospitals are clearing space and preparing staff for a possible crush of patients needing critical care.
If I catch the common cold and survive, am I immune to it?
That specific variant: I believe so
The mutation of that which your friend got from their kid? Have fun with that
That Chicago statement needs an enormous asterisk. This idea that Chicago is a lawless hellhole where you're highly likely to get shot is not true save for very specific areas that the average person would never visit on a trip to the city, let alone as a current resident.
Yes, but common cold is caused by a large numbers of virus', and different strains of the same virus. And possible mutations
Stefan Simanowitz on Twitter
“On #COVID2019, @BorisJohnson said: “One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go & allow #coronvirus to move through the population without really taking as many draconian measures.” This is a CRAZY theory! #COVID19 https://t.co/usABMckLqf”
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I guess it depends on how you define critical mass, because the hospital system in Northern Italy is supposedly right at the brink.
Where do you think the virus is gonna go between now and November? Just evaporate? We have zero reason to believe it'll slow down or die off in the summer and if dipshit keeps trying to downplay and suppress it, it'll just keep spreading and circulating and more and more people will get sick and/or die.
There's not even confirmation we build immunity to it after recovering yet, or what the long term effects will be for those who receiver 3, 6, 12+ months down the road. But there have been instances of "recovered" patients seemingly getting again and having an even worse time of it or dying.
His strategy of just lying about it and ignoring it won't work against a virus, especially if summer doesn't hinder it at all.
Anyone know what the latest is with regards to India? I know they have a handful of cases there. Has it begun to spread widely there yet?
I ask because my mom is visiting my grandparents there and I'm thinking of getting her back to the US ASAP if things are starting to get worse.
I ask because my mom is visiting my grandparents there and I'm thinking of getting her back to the US ASAP if things are starting to get worse.
Well with the way it's being treated here in the US, I guess we may find out...
It is irresponsible to make a post like this when we don't know about the immunity to the disease. There have been many reinfections, which may be due to improper testing, but we cannot confidently say you become immune. Experts have stated that it is unlikely that you can get reinfected, but they don't know if you are immune yet. Please do not make posts about this situation that aren't backed by experts.
i feel real shitty about it, but the thought of florida being back in play this november crossed my mind
In the context of contrywide spread with millions of infected.
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D.C. Priest who shook hands with more than 500 worshippers infected with virus
www.wkbn.com
www.independent.co.uk
D.C. Priest who shook hands with more than 500 worshippers infected with virus
D.C. priest tests positive for coronavirus
A priest in the Washington, D.C. area has tested positive for the coronavirus.
www.wkbn.com
US priest who shook hands with more than 500 worshippers has coronavirus
'Several hundred' people ordered to self-quarantine after church closes due to risk of infection
www.independent.co.uk
Stefan Simanowitz on Twitter
“On #COVID2019, @BorisJohnson said: “One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go & allow #coronvirus to move through the population without really taking as many draconian measures.” This is a CRAZY theory! #COVID19 https://t.co/usABMckLqf”
With the lack of testing, the ratio of deaths to confirmed infected, a pay for health system that is poor at dealing with these types of pandemics, and a president and admin who is treating this like its the seasonal flu, combined with the biggest news broadcaster sharing that same message.
All the ingredients are there for this to blow up like it did in China in the US except 10x word because they don't have the means to manage it in the same way
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It's pretty spread out in the city.....obviously not everything is a gunshot wound, but lets not act like its not a common thing for someone to die everyday in my city.
But like i said, at least gunshots are not contagious
also a massive spike this year compared to last