Basically, yeah. A virus needs its host to survive, so strains that are super lethal can't compete effectively with its less lethal mutations.
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Basically, yeah. A virus needs its host to survive, so strains that are super lethal can't compete effectively with its less lethal mutations.
There's a lot of annoying copy going around. It drives my bonkers that the BBC keep referring to it as "the deadly coronavirus"
Like, wtf, it's not "deadly" by any definition of the word
Hospitals and facilities in the Pittsburgh area are not taking extra precautions with their employees and contractors, I really suspect it's gonna hit hard and spread fast unless something changes here soon.
A more deadly virus is usually less effective.
From an evolutionary fitness perspective, less deadly viruses do better, both because a non dead hosts can infect more people than dead ones and because we take them less seriously as a society, which is why the cold is the most common viral infection. It doesn't mean that you can't get mutations that make it worse though.
Yes, there are a few in Westchester county. The districts are also quickly trying to get teachers equipped and ready for distance teaching. We are being told to make sure we have all of our equipment should we not be able to come back to school. It feels more like when as opposed to if we will close.
I'd like to think news media is calling it deadly to get the general public to take it seriously.
As we can see, it just makes people panic and buy all the toilet paper.
That was a huge problem during SARS and why in many (most? all?) countries in Asia you have designated fever wards and clinics that take all suspected patients in the case of an outbreak.
But obviously, learning from other countries experience is for cowards and commies.
Just had a bit of a lightbulb moment.
Can we use thermometers guns to track elderly parents temperatures, I mean you can get the in ear ones, but yeah the proximity is an issue. I DO NOT want to give my parents the disease even if I will be ok, or live through this very easily.
I mean, sure a thermometer gun is still within the 1 meter area, but it's still far away compared to the in ear method and will likely give me ample time and space to bury my face in my arm/elbow if I cough or sneeze.
Can we use thermometers guns to track elderly parents temperatures, I mean you can get the in ear ones, but yeah the proximity is an issue. I DO NOT want to give my parents the disease even if I will be ok, or live through this very easily.
I mean, sure a thermometer gun is still within the 1 meter area, but it's still far away compared to the in ear method and will likely give me ample time and space to bury my face in my arm/elbow if I cough or sneeze.
Again, women use toilet paper for more than just our butts and there are a lot of women in this world.
Edit - not saying I'm gonna fight another person over a roll though and my family isn't buying out stores.
Yup pedialyte (there is adult versions) is better just because less sugar alone plus great to have around in case you catch a stomach virus.
Plenty. I live in King County (where it started in the U.S) and dozens have school have closed. Even a student at a local high school (about 15 minutes out from Seattle) has contracted the virus.
number of cases here in Georgia seems to be up to 5, and I got a phone call from my uncle telling that supposedly there are Corona cases at the university I'll be transferring to and attending this summer. I'm going to take that last bit with a massive grain of salt until it's actually reported on.
That's pretty mad... my "unknown virus" lines up much more neatly with Coronavirus than Flu (no sore throat, no runny noise). Batshit.Heres a chart showing symptoms and onset time for COVID-19, flu, and cold.
From https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/fa...from-seasonal-flu-and-common-cold/ar-BB10OLeG
Afaik they only pick up surface temps or ambient temps in air. Dont think they'd be any good for a reliable reading of a persons internal temperature
There are plenty of exercises you can do without having access to a gym. It may not be your usual routine and I know how much routines can matter to folks but it's not the end of the world.
Dammit, ok. I'll have to chance it with an in ear one then. Just have to be very careful when I take the temps daily.
Yeah i know. But even then. There are still women who don't even use toiletpaper for that. Though i can understand you rather use toiletpaper, don't get me wrong. Just doesn't seem like the most essential thing to me. It's convenient, sure.
Anyway, i hope stores put a limit on how much people can buy. I hate people who buy the entire stock.
Thanks. The local district here has 60k+ students. Closing the entire thing for at least a week is a massive, massive deal.
Well shit. I expect stores are going to be crazy for the next few days. This thread convinced me to stock up last week thankfully.
Ah well okay. Yea I'd be upset too if I legit need toilet paper and it's all gone.
I'm like wondering if I should stock up on some canned foods just in case people go ape shit here and buy everything. I don't normally use canned foods so kind of hard to justify buying em if I don't think I'll be eating them when this blows over.
Similar group of people, completely different conference.
Edit: meant to quote the other person and got yours and his mixed up. not sure where the washington DC case is coming from.
my supermarket in downtown San Francisco completely sold out of Toilet Paper and Paper Towels
Its weird, I dont want to say you should because personally I feel the panic buying is gonna be an issue of it's own. But given how quick everything here vanished, maybe grab a couple extra bags/tins anything you use regularly that's selling out like pasta or rice etc. A few extra wont hurt, its seemingly people filling whole trolleys with these things cleaning huge chunks of the supply out to a few people.
The Washington Post on Twitter
“D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser announces city’s first confirmed case of coronavirus https://t.co/DOz2S6csCF”
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Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
“Update: There are 13 additional cases of #Coronavirus in NYS since earlier today, bringing total to 89. Westchester: 70 NYC: 11 Nassau: 4 Rockland: 2 Saratoga: 2 There will be more cases as we test more—that’s a good thing bc we can deal with the situation based on more facts.”
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Irrational behaviors when people panic is not an entirely new thing. Which is probably the biggest danger in all of this.
What was it, 60 a couple of days ago. The numbers will inevitably go up but how high before it peaks, no idea. Will there be a point were harsh measures come in, perhaps but you probably need something like Italy for that to happen, we aren't there.
You should be stocking up some regardless of this virus. It's for general preparedness. Here in CAlifornia they tell everyone to have at least a couple days worth of stuff for the earthquakes.
Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
“Update: There are 13 additional cases of #Coronavirus in NYS since earlier today, bringing total to 89. Westchester: 70 NYC: 11 Nassau: 4 Rockland: 2 Saratoga: 2 There will be more cases as we test more—that’s a good thing bc we can deal with the situation based on more facts.”
As someone who lives in Upstate New York I was somehow unaware that there were already 89 cases in NYS.
Well.
Shit.
WHO Situation Report (Issue 47, 10a March 7 CET):
Global:
101927 cases (+3735)
China:
80813 cases (+102)
3073 deaths (+28)
Outside of China:
21110 cases (+3633)
413 deaths (+78)
93 countries/regions (+5)
Global:
101927 cases (+3735)
China:
80813 cases (+102)
3073 deaths (+28)
Outside of China:
21110 cases (+3633)
413 deaths (+78)
93 countries/regions (+5)
What are your guys' thoughts on this article? Usual contrarian slate stuff?
slate.com
COVID-19’s Mortality Rate Isn’t As High As We Think
We need to be thinking about nursing homes, not schools. Hospitals, not planes.
What are your guys' thoughts on this article? Usual contrarian slate stuff?
COVID-19’s Mortality Rate Isn’t As High As We Think
We need to be thinking about nursing homes, not schools. Hospitals, not planes.
I'd say it's a good take. The main dangers of this thing are that infected people with mild cases, of which there is a vast majority, will infect at-risk groups. It's going to be substantially more deadly in a nursing home than in the general population. That, and of course the quarantines and economic impacts.
No, it seems pretty spot-on. Healthy people should leave as many resources possible for those that are in need of hospitalization.What are your guys' thoughts on this article? Usual contrarian slate stuff?
COVID-19’s Mortality Rate Isn’t As High As We Think
We need to be thinking about nursing homes, not schools. Hospitals, not planes.
The point is this graph, which I believe has been shown in this thread. It isn't even really about minimizing total cases (the area under each curve in the graph is roughly the same), it's about spreading it out so it doesn't overwhelm the system. There are a max number of hospital beds, icu beds, equipment, supplies, workers.What are your guys' thoughts on this article? Usual contrarian slate stuff?
COVID-19’s Mortality Rate Isn’t As High As We Think
We need to be thinking about nursing homes, not schools. Hospitals, not planes.
User Banned (3 Days): Dismissive commentary surrounding the seriousness of an infectious disease.
What are your guys' thoughts on this article? Usual contrarian slate stuff?
COVID-19’s Mortality Rate Isn’t As High As We Think
We need to be thinking about nursing homes, not schools. Hospitals, not planes.
This is what people have been saying for a while, there is little to no real risk that this virus proposes to young healthy people, other than the possibility of you transmitting it to the elderly.
The actual death rate of this thing is in reality incredibly low.
Amtrak suspends nonstop Acela service between DC and New York as demand weakens amid coronavirus
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Amtrak suspends nonstop Acela service between DC and New York as demand weakens amid coronavirus
The Acela nonstop service will be temporarily suspended starting Tuesday, March 10 until Tuesday, May 26.
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I'm caring for elderly and very unwell patients, I start on Monday and I am extremely concerned about transmitting anything to them. I know if I did, I would feel so much guilt.
In the case that any of us get it and we get Pneumonia, have sleeping/resting positions been discussed? I know for a fact you must not sleep laying flat so I think that elevating your posture to be almost sitting may be better.
In the case that any of us get it and we get Pneumonia, have sleeping/resting positions been discussed? I know for a fact you must not sleep laying flat so I think that elevating your posture to be almost sitting may be better.
If I don't have a bidet (which many in the US don't) what is the alternative besides toilet paper after peeing? Sure, I can use a washcloth 5 times a day and clean that every time, or I could use toilet paper. I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it, I'm just tired of some guys acting like we couldn't possibly have uses for every day items that are different than theirs.