Cheers both. Trying to!
Cheers both. Trying to!
If I'm visiting family in the US, am I better off just driving the 7 hours as opposed to the hour flight? It's gonna be a long ass drive but at the very least I am not in a crowded area
Cant really compared go China, though. It took an unprecendeted lockdown to get the numbers where they are today. The kind of lockdown is not going to fly over here, beside Trump administration wouldn't even think about taking that kind of economical hit, they prefer to sacrifice lives to keep the economy afloat.
I think we should stop reporting the cases minute by minute. They will rise that is sure but what do you get by knowing the exact number? It only helps spread the panic. Reporting new deaths is another thing but here it would be much more important to have the history of the case.
I'm seeing unconfirmed reports about a quarantine building falling and trapping 70 people under it in China. Anyone have a source?
According to the official Weibo news of the "News 1 + 1" column of CCTV, on March 6, Bai Yansong talked with Wu Hao, the head of the community prevention and control expert group of the central steering group.
Wu Hao said: Patients discharged from Wuhan must have 14 days of centralized isolation observation and 14 days of home medical isolation observation, and they must go through a total of 28 days of isolation observation period. The first 14 days are the observations of centralized medical isolation points. Generally, it is the acquisition or transformation of medical isolation points such as hotels or training schools for observation. In principle, each isolation point is matched by a doctor and a nurse for every 50 people, and there are other life support personnel. At the same time, there is a division-level leader cadre at the isolation point.
I have done this my whole life...OCD prepared me for this I guessBetter safe than sorry I guess. Just be sure to wash/sanitize hands after pumping gas etc.
Yeah, official accounts on Chinese social networks have confirmed the news. It is a hotel building requisitioned as a quarantine zone; at the time of collapse there were 70 cases in the building. ~28 have been extracted so far.
Update: 32 extracted now.
Source (in Chinese)
But none of that is happening here either.... (and most likely won't happen here).The western media focus on lockdown and so people say no we can't do that to stop the outbreak.
But actually lock down in Wuhan is just a very first and one of the steps.
Consider the countries like other provinces got import cases. Or have community infection (Guangdong and Zhejiang).
There are very very much more actions been taken.
1. Everyone be told about the information like what they should do or what they shouldn't do. Everyone be told where are the more dangerous places they should be careful. (Flights, hospitals, elevators, any narrow space...).
2. Contact path tracking and transparent information: For cities we got infection map with real time data that you can check from the map the last confirm cases visited which supermarkets or live in which blocks. And the passengers on same flight or bus or train will be informed to take 14 days self quarantine.
3. The government ask to support the supplies of the citizens daily life. And ask for the supermarkets to provide food and supplies on normal price, the subway and bus to keep on but their opening windows are narrowed and have to do disinfect everyday. And the delivery apps also provide no-touch delivery and carriers/restaurants body temperature check and record everyday.
4. Over 40000 doctors and nurses are sent to Hubei and Wuhan from other provinces. 65 ECMO to be newly purchased from German or borrowed from other provinces are sent to Wuhan to save life.
5. The government encourages factories to produ more face masks and protection clothes. And the government removes tax for small businesses and reduce tax for big companies. The government remove personal social insurance fee for these months because most people stay at home.
6. The government cover all the payment for every covid-19 patients testing and cure. It's all free in China.
7. We can submit report or feedback to the government directly via wechat app. We can report anything from some people resell face masks at high price to local officers lie, the government take investigations.
8. From high schools to kindergarten teachers and students take online course and teachers do streaming at home.
There are many many more methods.
Not only the lock down.
28 Days, huhSeems that Wuhan Increases patient quarantine to 28 days
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I have done this my whole life...OCD prepared me for this I guess
But none of that is happening here either.... (and most likely won't happen here).
The US response greatly, greatly alarms me.
I cannot see anything else but a china like response once they realise the magnitude of the situation. Arguably worse seeing as it is extremely likely to spread across the country before they put measures in.
I'm expecting a headline one day that jumps the number of cases by four figures in a single day. They'll eventually and quickly defeat the virus, but not before a huge US citizen cost.
China has also donated a further $22 million dollars to get a vaccine for this thing.
For UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...and-to-give-gp-surgeries-protective-equipment
The US response greatly, greatly alarms me.
I cannot see anything else but a china like response once they realise the magnitude of the situation. Arguably worse seeing as it is extremely likely to spread across the country before they put measures in.
I'm expecting a headline one day that jumps the number of cases by four figures in a single day. They'll eventually and quickly defeat the virus, but not before a huge US citizen cost.
China has also donated a further $22 million dollars to get a vaccine for this thing.
For UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...and-to-give-gp-surgeries-protective-equipment
Coronavirus: Weakest patients could be denied lifesaving care due to lack of funding for NHS, doctors admit
NHS patients could be denied lifesaving care during a severe coronavirus outbreak in Britain if intensive care units are struggling to cope, senior doctors have warned.
Under a so-called "three wise men" protocol, three senior consultants in each hospital would be forced to make decisions on rationing care such as ventilators and beds, in the event hospitals were overwhelmed with patients.
The medics spoke out amid frustration over what one said was the government's "dishonest spin" that the health service was well prepared for a major pandemic outbreak.
Coronavirus death rate: What are the chances of dying?
The current best guess of a 1% death rate does not apply to everyone.www.bbc.com
The thing is, without those updates we wouldn't have a comprehensive understanding of how this disease is spreading in a specific region, which is critical for people to be aware of, and evaluate the risks.
Seems that Wuhan Increases patient quarantine to 28 days
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Fellow gym goers, I'm in greater Philly and I usually go to the gym around 4 days a week. Pretty healthy 28 year old guy. Obviously taking every precaution with washing my hands before I go out and as soon as I come back home. Also wash hands immediately after working out and I never touch my face in public.
Should I work out from home or just go to the gym?
And that is exactly the point! The people who need to know get the numbers. For the general populations it would be sufficient to have a trend. Of course it is good for the transparency to have the numbers in the open but I think part of the reason people (in Europe) are freaking out is due to the overcoverage in the media. It is a severe crisis for sure but at the moment in Europe it is handled better than the media would suggest. I am involved in the prevention and control for Germany and besides that we have to work a lot and Masks are getting scarce we are fine. Of course it could all change and we will definitely see a large rise of patients here but that is fortunately still in the (near) future. We have the luxury that we had a bit more time than china to prepare.
That is strange because here we see that 10 days should be sufficient.
A very major venue I used to work for in SoCal posted something about their summer programming/season today, and the first comment was asking when they were going to cancel their season :/
That organization can weather something like that but they are in a very fortunate position compared to most other venues.
if you can avoid touching your face at the gym then go for it, but when I lift I always catch myself touching my face.
Fellow gym goers, I'm in greater Philly and I usually go to the gym around 4 days a week. Pretty healthy 28 year old guy. Obviously taking every precaution with washing my hands before I go out and as soon as I come back home. Also wash hands immediately after working out and I never touch my face in public.
Should I work out from home or just go to the gym?
Its the editing.
It WILL be out there for the foreseeable future. There is no evidence it will be going awayThis virus could be out there for weeks or even months. You can''t just shut down for the entire time. Live your life but wash thoroughly and maybe don't hang around if someone else is hacking and coughing.
Thanks for the advice Jay! I know that feel too haha and I've just been lifting at the gym and doing cardio at home, have you been going recently amid the virus?
Most interesting data in my mind is still the Diamond Princess, because everyone on that boat got tested regardless of whether they had symptoms. So you can see a better idea of fatality rate just from being infected whether showing symptoms or not.We for sure won't get those numbers until reliable widespread tests are available. The reality is a lot more people than is currently reported have this virus, but when the actual numbers come out people will lose their minds.
This virus could be out there for weeks or even months. You can''t just shut down for the entire time. Live your life but wash thoroughly and maybe don't hang around if someone else is hacking and coughing.
It was edited to include the most important quote at the start and it was left in place at the end. She also asked questions that only sought to gain the same information multiple times.
WHO proved that graph wrong when they went to China FYI
Coronavirus death rate: What are the chances of dying?
The current best guess of a 1% death rate does not apply to everyone.www.bbc.com
The "vested interest in hyping coronavirus"