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Costco manager: "Cancel that man's 'Fourth Visit in a Week' Award and charge him $2 a hotdog from now on. And send Target the usual threats"
We need to do better at containing this virus
14 now dead of coronavirus in Seattle area
Three more deaths from COVID-19, caused by coronavirus, were reported on Friday morning. That brings the total to 14 deaths from the virus in the Seattle area. Twelve of th have been at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland, Washington, across the lake from Seattle.www.kuow.org
It's a near impossible unless you go for a mandatory (read: martial law) shutdown. Something like what China is able to do.
Seattle got its first case because a man with flu symptoms that traveled from Wuhan got symptoms.
They then started to screen for people that he came in contact with + other travelers from China.
But then we had cases where people had no contact. They realized the disease was likely spreading for 4-6 weeks via community spread. At that point they realized its impossible to contain and switched to just community prevention. Ie wash hands, be careful.
They can mitigate it, almost impossible to contain. Especially considering it can be spread without showing symptoms.
Also don't read too much into the seattle deaths. Having it be concentrated in a NURSING HOME was a worst case scenario.
Not sure if this was posted, but Santa Clara county got a bunch of new cases and issues a county wide work from home guidance.
www.sccgov.org
New Guidance from the County of Santa Clara’s Public Health Department to Protect Residents of the County from Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Public Health - County of Santa Clara
Six New Confirmed Cases in Santa Clara County SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CA — The County’s Public Health Department is taking proactive steps to protect the health of our community by making additional recommendations to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) in our community and reduce...
By the way... cask strength alcohol will work. High quality rums and whiskies.
Hell, the way things are going, they'll probably end up cheaper per litre than hand sanitiser anyway. :D
Hell, the way things are going, they'll probably end up cheaper per litre than hand sanitiser anyway. :D
Wuhan has a population of 11 million, a bit over 2 million more than New York City and London for reference. It's "small" by maybe Shanghai or Beijing standards, but I wouldn't classify it as a "small city" by any stretch.
So you're saying I should be making sanitzer with some Pappy? lol
I've always wanted to go to Seattle, but ECCC cancelling is kind of the sticking point as that was a big reason to make this event happen now. Maybe if there wasn't all this happening I'd think differently, but even comic con still on (losing a lot of guests though) I'm on the fence.
I love seeing the support for the city. I have a list of a number of things I'd like to do, but one of my friends who is going is adamant about doing as much at the con as possible.
Thanks for the this list. I've never been to a con. Have heard tales about legendary con cruds. I'm already a bit of a germaphobe, so the idea of these crowds still not practicing good hygiene really shakes me.
It's been this wrestling match in the last three days thinking I might be buying into the fear and that I'll be fine if I go, as well as FOMO, versus... going, catching it, and then spreading it back in the Midwest.
I've spent the entire morning talking with the WA Dept of Health hotline, my airline about refund policy should I choose to do so, looking at the WHO's website on information and best practices, and... talking with all sorts of friends and family who all have opinions of varying degrees. Most are shrugging and say I should do it and not worry, save for my wife who is nervous about it (more of a germaphobe than I am.)
Who needs to work before a week vacation when you can be absorbed in your own head trying to make a decision?
I suppose this is just another threat that is super-underestimated by the world community at large... until shit hits the fan. JUST like how it is now. The world was not prepared for a pandemic of this size and intensity, yet WHO and others have been warning governments about such a threat for years... It's always the same thing, NOTHING changes until we absolutely fucking have to at the last second. Only there are scenarios where that is just too damn late.
Wuhan isn't Akron, Ohio. The entire province was quarantined—roughly the size of Arizona. Wuhan City is only its capitol.
Maybe we'll finally learn something from this outbreak? Hopefully?
The US government can do everything that China is doing and more.
America put its citizens under curfew many many times, though we usually do it when too many black people are trying to protest some injustice.
Closing up airports, roads, schools and businesses is something America does all the time, as is mandatory quarantine.
Doesn't help that cases started getting really bad around the Chinese New Year where a ton of people vacation around the world during that time. It was going to get out regardless but I'm sure the timing of the year didn't help at all.
Honestly.... it has to get way, WAY worse unfortunately for big, widespread, systemic changes to even be considered.
Properly preparing for a pandemic costs money. we can't cut into our profits like that, man!
It just got delayed to Summer so you don't have to stress.
https://twitter.com/emeraldcitycon/status/1235996413093273602
Just skip straight to the washing your hands / face / mouth with it!
I hate the incompetency of the Trump administration but I'm not certain I like the alternative that the Trump administration realizes it has massive police state powers.
It really isnt. They need to shut down the cities and have people remote working. I've been on the tube all week and it's diabolical down there, people coughing all over the place.
It's going to spread like crazy if we don't shut it down.
Just reminded me that I've got a train journey coming. =/
Should have paid extra for first class!
When I saw this I breathed a deep sigh of relief and all of the tension in my shoulders went away.
Thanks for sharing!
One of the reasons Italy has had a high death rate is it seemed one of the first sites of spread was in a hospital where they did not take the right precautions.
en.m.wikipedia.org
"On 14 February, he felt unwell and went to a doctor in Castiglione d'Adda. He was prescribed treatments for influenza.[20]
On 16 February, as the 38-year-old man's condition worsened, he went to Codogno Hospital, reporting respiratory problems.[20]Initially, there was no suspicion of COVID-19, so no additional precautionary measures were taken, and the virus was able to infect other patients and health workers."
COVID-19 pandemic in Italy - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
"On 14 February, he felt unwell and went to a doctor in Castiglione d'Adda. He was prescribed treatments for influenza.[20]
On 16 February, as the 38-year-old man's condition worsened, he went to Codogno Hospital, reporting respiratory problems.[20]Initially, there was no suspicion of COVID-19, so no additional precautionary measures were taken, and the virus was able to infect other patients and health workers."
Father in law has just had to self quarantine. He was working down in London for the last two weeks and one of his colleagues now has symptoms. His work after talking to the NHS has advised everyone who was working at the site to self-quarantine until testing can be carried out. But it makes you think, my FIL was working with this guy for two weeks, the guy like my FIL was staying in a hotel, eating in restaurants, going to the cinema etc and getting the tube from the hotel to the site and back. Then my FIL got the 4hr 30 minutes train from London to Glasgow on Thursday afternoon to be told this morning that he needs to self-isolate.
The sheer number of vectors is potentially immense.
That's two people I know who've had to self-quarantine. Although my friend has tested negative.
The sheer number of vectors is potentially immense.
That's two people I know who've had to self-quarantine. Although my friend has tested negative.
...does this mean there is going to be a shortage of Tito's now, too
The problem is that the testing is so lax it could be spreading without anyone's knowledge. If we wait until the obvious or severe cases start showing up it might already be too late.
I just don't think its worth it tbh.
People need a stockpile of supplies. How do you guarantee they have that?
If you even shutdown the entire country for a week, there's no guarantee the virus isn't just gonna pop back up after the shutdown goes away.
Was just coming here to post that. I had already sent my tickets back two days ago to get a refund. I'm glad they're still going to have it in the summer though. It's a big hit for artists that already printed up their prints and made merch so now it won't go to waste.
I don't think we need full curfew (something they're not doing in China by the way, not even in Wuhan) I just think that it's important to understand that the US government has almost unlimited powers in times of national emergency, and we can do much much more.
They could be testing 100,000 people a day and the general public would still refuse even the most basic levels of social isolation.
Guys, how might the George W Bush administration have been handling this if he was president now instead of Trump ?
They'd put it in the punch at frat parties during college. It's insane. Once took a shot and it fucked me up immediately
I really feel bad for most americans here. I personally feel very disappointed in my own country, Sweden's, reaction to all this but I know they've at least done the bare minimum you can expect from a developed country. What is happening in USA can't be compared to that. So many evidences of widespread community spread and they've done way less tests than we've done in Sweden. I watched the clip with the doctor who said it's a national scandal and I'd honestly call it a worldwide scandal considering large outbreaks in any country have repercussions on all countries.
Do nursing homes not ever get the flu though? 13 deaths at that one site seems insane.
Look at SARS. Probably a lot less worry about how it makes him look but likely a lot of mismanagement all the same. The thing about these outbreaks is you have to prepare before there are outbreaks but there's never the political will for that
They get it all the time. I'm sure a patient dies here or there but obviously nothing like what's happening in Seattle.