This is all very true, but in the discussion I was talking about no-one actually argued the flu is worse than COVID. Just that comparing the death rate at the moment is not really reliable
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This is all very true, but in the discussion I was talking about no-one actually argued the flu is worse than COVID. Just that comparing the death rate at the moment is not really reliable
They, demonstratively, have chosen to selectively comment only on issues where it will advance their standing with China - in order to maintain their funding and co-operation - despite that possibly being detrimental to the management of this virus.
If imposing quarantines or travel bans on China was 'counterproductive' as they said at the time while taking China's side, then why now that China are doing it are they not calling them out for it? Isn't their job to advise governments and the public of the best way to handle this outbreak? Or is their main goal actually, just as with the majority of the UN's bureaucratic satellites, to gain funding and keep their friends happy?
For the WHO obviously the 'greater good' is preserving the WHO - and I can see why it makes sense. They can't provide the support to those developing countries fighting AIDS, Malaria and so on as you said without keeping big countries happy, and so maybe they'll do something like prevent Taiwan from using their resources or provide biased soundbites now and again because while that does a little damage, them having their support pulled and disappearing does greater damage to the world. Their actions are decided by a committee of people who KNOW what their words mean to others - it's not some utopian vision of a team of super doctors from around the world - they are in effect politicians because that is what is necessary for them to continue to exist.
The only checks and balances we have on that not tipping over into outright corruption IS criticizing and analyzing what the WHO do and say with a free press. It's not detrimental at all.
Yeah, it's pretty shitty to see it unfold like this. Not unexpected though.
wasn't there also another case where she/he tested positive in Australia, and she/he was from a flight from the Philippines lol
Can you give me a link to this info?
One of the 2 patients.
Philippines records 2 new confirmed coronavirus cases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgz-qVRrSg MANILA, Philippines — The Department of Health (DOH) on Friday reported two new confirmed cases of the 2019 coronavirus disease (COVID-19) thatnewsinfo.inquirer.net
That's the dude. Sorry it is a dude not a woman. He is a stall owner on the shopping area in Greenhills
Apparently someone got tasered in a fight over toilet paper in Tamworth
A lot of my friends in the industry are panicking big time and some have already had massive cancellations (losing out on $50-$100K).
It hasn't even hit Australia that hard yet. For a rough industry at the best of times, the future seems very sketchy.
A lot of my friends in the industry are panicking big time and some have already had massive cancellations (losing out on $50-$100K).
It hasn't even hit Australia that hard yet. For a rough industry at the best of times, the future seems very sketchy.
We're way past the contain phase. People are too stupid.
Containing should've happened at airports. It's too late. Community spreading will be a big problem from here on out pretty much everywhere.
it is crazy, but you can see why people on old times fell for Gods wrath etc, here we have a virus that spares the young and able, and potentially kills the weak
conspiracy nut jobs will be all over this
Our Health minister (Matt HANCOCK) here in the U.K. last night on a BBC show basically said Italy are doing it wrong, he reckons the U.K. scientists are telling him as it is airborne there is no need to cancel large gatherings, shut schools and colleges as the person who has it can only spread it to the people in their immediate vicinity
You know what large gatherings, schools and colleges have in common? People being in the immediate vicinity with each other very often.
I hope that in UK the situation will not get as bad as here in Italy, otherwise with a health minister who states such things, I don't know which countermeasures (if any) would be carried out.
Of course... on the bright side of this though, maybe scientists will be able to some day figure out what exactly it is that makes kids "immune" to this and maybe apply some of that towards a treatment for adults. It's a long shot but hey, at this point...
Lmao exactly.
Also, not very often but more like all the time. That was a crazy take.
I don't know why you continue to say China ban traveling from outbreak areas. I have showed you the news right? We got 4 import cases from Korea and 11 cases from Iran yesterday.
I feel you intend to express some emotions than looking to the reality.
To be fair, he asked the health commission what to do as soon as he came back and they told him "you weren't in the at-risk area, you're fine".
(he was at a resort 30 km from the quarantine)
He had to get tested on his own initiative, otherwise nobody would even know he's infected.
Estonia has reached double digits in confirmed cases. All ten are imports though, the first one was from Iran and the other nine from Italy.
I disagree and I think people who keep having kids are irresponsible.
What an absolute fucking idiot.
This is what happens when ministers are put into roles they have no idea about.
My employer in the UK is really ramping up it's readiness .... HR knows everyones travel plans.. visitors now have to fill out a questionnaire for the same info.... We're being encouraged to work from home... Laptops are being built for desktop users... VPN capabilities have been expanded... Further encouraged to use Skype (which we all ready do)... Advice for people using public transport is not either stay in one office or work from home..
They are taking really seriously... We also get 6 months of paid sick leave...
So while the UK government is seemingly doing fuck all some businesses are not.
Whilst I have zero, absolute zero confidence in the tories, the wider government, seasoned experts, fucking ironic given the tories view on them, I do have confidence in. This is almost a wholly medical, science driven approach to the crisis in the uk. Far exceeding my expectations for the shower of a gov. They have extremely quickly put the right, correct people in charge of this. Let's just hope it runs off on other parts.
Oh and to add to this, the person in charge of the response advised yesterday to a parliamentary committee the CFR in the uk due to this should be below or around 1%. Which should reassure uk peeps in this thread.
The projected response is very robust. Think a mix of SK, and English robust response. With, if required, a china like response if it goes that way. There was a 28 page plan that was published, which make for stark, but oddly reassuring reading. Nothing is off the table to kill this thing.
To add myself to the pile in this thread. Office is talking about WFH for all of us. We have worked remotely before so it's just a matter of making sure everything is secured.
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It's not that the young and healthy are immune to it. They still get infected but the symptoms are likely mild or sometimes the symptoms won't even show up but they are still carriers. They are just healthy enough to either shrug it off or fight it of quicker.
This is nothing new. This is seen in other types of viral infections and even bacterial infections. Sometimes the reverse happens like what happened with the Spanish flu and some strains of the common flu. The leading theory for that one is that the young person's immune system reacts too aggressively, essentially with the persons own body drowning them in a bid to aggressively get rid of the infectious agent in the lungs.
Yeah the uk government is dumb as hell. The way that clown on question time was talking, you may aswell spread the virus yourself. I just pray things settle down over the coming weeks.
Stay safe everyone
Stay safe everyone
Now how long before they take the most important step... and pay for testing for the uninsured?
People, at a population level, naturally have less kids when they have access to better education and become more affluent. No exceptions have been seen so far in any countries. Indeed, the opposite is happening all across the developed world except those that have a fairly immigration policy.
Fecal transplant does exist, yes. But it's usually for digestive issues.
The effects he means are more of the long term variant, fecal transplants are being discussed in matters of possibly affecting the immune sysem of the receiver, but that kinda research is in it's infancy so it really is out of the question that for something this imminent it could possibly be of any use now.
If every person on the planet stopped having children tomorrow we'd still be doomed from climate change unless we make some serious changes. That would take decades before it had any appreciable affect on the population enough to slow down climate change. Simply we put we need to change the way we do things.
You're also conveniently ignoring all the huge problems that would cause our society in itself. It's not some silver bullet for climate change. Also despite that stupid graph that's constantly posting having an extra child doesn't have to mean a huge increase in your carbon footprint depending on your lifestyle.
Just to point out. China at least until yesterday was not imposing travel ban, but quarantine after arrival.
That's what my company are doing as well. Until it gets worse (when it'll already be too late and a few of us may have it) they're not planning on doing anything.
Aye, the odd particulars have certainly fuelled their respective NWO-related theories.