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It's absurd. I was sitting near a nursing student today on campus who was talking shit about the whole thing to her friend loudly (spouting off the whole flu killing more people, etc) because she was pissed off that her work wouldn't let her go in sick...she was coughing and sneezing. Yet she was still going to class anyways
I feel kind of defeated that so many people are willing to downplay this when there are those of us with autoimmune diseases and other disorders who are high risk and could be directly affected by it
Good to know actually. Thanks :D
I saw a thing that a dog has contracted it so I'm worried that it could be, but i'm no expert I'd trust anybody else in the thread over me tbh.
He was at the doc for a physical last week and he said she "cleared him" and he's a stubborn old dick so good luck getting him to do anything.
Geez, there's an older guy at my firm that just went to Morocco with his wife for a bucket list vacation...
I wonder about that too, it seems their maps takes a while to update. :/
Our healthcare is not equipped for this, never mind the sheer amount of incompetence in how the situation is being handled, shit is going to get bad.
Can't believe I have classes to go to tomorrow. I'm in WA. And one of them is a fucking gym class...
Every parent should make the best decision for themselves and their families
This sounds quite similar to the hospital I work at in the north east of the UK.
I'd say we're getting an average of 8 or 10 samples a day from "suspected" patients. We've not had any tested positive yet (fortunately).
I can't really comment on our situation in regards to doctors not having enough facial protection, I'd like to think they do!
If you go, what are your chances of getting sick? If I get sick, what are the chances is becomes anything beyond a mild cold?
That's what you should ask yourself.
The chances of you getting sick are kind of impossible to answer right now, but if you decide to go you can improve your chances of not getting sick. This virus is not airborne, but if there is widespread community transmission it's likely that you as a tourist will be touching a lot of contaminated surfaces so you would HAVE to be diligent in your viral hygiene.
Yep. 15 percent of the country doesn't even have health care and wont go to the doctor unless they absolutely need to. These people will also likely continue going to work, because they don't have PTO, and can be fired for calling in sick.
Just take precautions. King County Health says to for the most part treat this like if it was a bit like the Flu (good hygeine/ don't touch things/ dont gather in large gatherings if you have underlying health issues etc). This is from the Press Conference.
"My arms just turned purple, should I go to the hospital?" threads should tell you the extent to which Americans will avoid going to the hospital. There are absolutely a ton of cases out there.
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You're good, fam! Also, it's a great time to travel since ticket prices are cheap - I hear Italy is nice. And maybe get a few days at Disney World? Better to catch it now than later when the hospitals are too crowded. Peace.
New coronavirus case here in Sonoma County
And now we're finding out that this new person was in the community for 10 days between the cruise and going to the hospital.
... welp.
And now we're finding out that this new person was in the community for 10 days between the cruise and going to the hospital.
... welp.
I know you are being sarcastic, but there is a huge different between Italy and Disney World and equating them is stupid.
Italy has an active outbreak going on, and if you fly there you have a real risk of your return flight being cancelled. Unless I miss something there is no outbreak in Disney World.
Correction - 5 of the victims were over 50, one of them was 40 ):
I wish my job would have a meeting with the building and discuss the course of action for this thing. If one person gets it and they come to work we are all basically fucked, and it'a not a job that can be done from home.
They put up a piece of paper taped to the wall telling us to wash our hands diligently. That's it. Idiots.
They put up a piece of paper taped to the wall telling us to wash our hands diligently. That's it. Idiots.
Yeah so NPR just had a Seattle area doctor on who pretty much just straight up said we do not have the healthcare infrastructure in place to handle this. Great.
It would, but honestly, we can just do the screening and treatment for this virus free. Seriously, nothing prevents us from doing it and there is enough money in the system to easily afford it.
Healthcare is not free in China but no one is getting charged anything for getting treated for this virus.
Last week I heard that the US has 1 million hospital beds, and that's including everyone who has scheduled procedures planned, like I do.
King county is buying a motel to house patients. I am unclear if they're buying the business or just renting the rooms long term.
King County to buy motel to house coronavirus patients in isolation
King County's response to a continued outbreak of coronavirus includes the purchase of a motel to house patients in treatment and isolation.
mynorthwest.com
They're looking for more options too.
I have my honeymoon scheduled for next month to Italy, and my insurance policy seems to be refusing to cover a cancellation. This is upsetting, because my wife is a medical professional and her hospital just released a 2-week quarantine policy, unpaid or using paid time off, after the trip if we were to go. We can obviously cannot do that.
I don't know what to do, and I'm afraid I'm about to be out thousands of dollars. I've spoken to both my booking agency and the insurance company and I can't get a straight answer from either. I can only file a claim after cancelling, which is a massive risk in and of itself. I'm so stressed right now.
I don't know what to do, and I'm afraid I'm about to be out thousands of dollars. I've spoken to both my booking agency and the insurance company and I can't get a straight answer from either. I can only file a claim after cancelling, which is a massive risk in and of itself. I'm so stressed right now.
Would the tour company allow a cancellation? I know many airlines are allowing no fee cancellations etc.
Steve Wozniak may be US Patient 0
www.cnet.com
Steve... nooooo! Come on man...
Why Steve Wozniak thought he was US coronavirus patient zero
Woz feared he or his wife could have been the first to bring the virus back to the US.
www.cnet.com
Steve... nooooo! Come on man...
I feel for you man, the timing is terrible.
I have a similar situation with a trip I've planned and saved a long time for. I also just got a $2k car repair bill that I wasn't expecting on a car that is new enough to not need repairs that major. Sometimes you don't have much of a choice, you just have to eat the proverbial shit sandwich.
A bunch of people will probably tell you to just wash your hands and enjoy Italy, but there's no way in hell I'd go through with the trip unless things took a huge turn for the better by next month.
I'm really sorry this is happening to you, it's incredibly unfortunate. If things don't improve, cancel closer to the date and I think you'll eventually get your money back. These travel companies aren't going to want the potential PR disaster of actively incentivizing people to fly into hot spots.
Steve Wozniak may be US Patient 0
Why Steve Wozniak thought he was US coronavirus patient zero
Woz feared he or his wife could have been the first to bring the virus back to the US.
Steve... nooooo! Come on man...
tfw you have the better common sense than steve fucking wozniak to see a doctor 2 weeks into any ailment instead of, you know, 2 months.
I'm going to keep investigating options, but I do feel like I'm fucked on my Italy trip. To add to this, this is my second trip scheduling. We had to cancel our original October trip (where we lost money) since my mother went into cardiac arrest the day after our wedding (luckily somehow survived after weeks in the hospital).
We bought the comprehensive insurance this go around, but it seems to not count with an epidemic. The universe does not want me to go on my fucking honeymoon. I'm so tired. This isn't the way to start my first handful of months of marriage.
We bought the comprehensive insurance this go around, but it seems to not count with an epidemic. The universe does not want me to go on my fucking honeymoon. I'm so tired. This isn't the way to start my first handful of months of marriage.
Also, with the potential for a higher number of people to be asymptomatic carriers here in Sonoma county, I'm super frustrated that the polling place for my part of Santa Rosa is at a senior living facility. I think that unnecessarily puts that population at risk.
I mean, it's also beyond that. I did go to the clinic yesterday with symptoms and they didn't test me for covid despite all my other swabs returning negative and me being in an affected area.
New York City doctor says he has to 'plead to test people' for coronavirus
The CDC sent test kits earlier in the outbreak to public health labs around the country, but those kits were problematic and potentially inaccurate.
www.cnbc.com
Moved my Fisher Space Pen from my work bag to my pocket, it's so small that I have zero excuse not to keep it with me all the time, and not to touch anyone else's pen (or public pens) from now on.
Yes, it's not a big deal, but it's one less thing that other people touch (and put in their mouths) a lot that now I can avoid.
Yes, it's not a big deal, but it's one less thing that other people touch (and put in their mouths) a lot that now I can avoid.
Sadly it's not too surprising to hear in basically any country. Humans never take capacity planning seriously, if you build hospitals with 20% more capacity than they need, that just gets eaten into over the years and the 20% buffer is never restored. Because £££ essentially.
Hospitals in the UK are beyond capacity already and understaffed as we have a nurse shortage. I hear similar from someone here who talked about France I think.
Only you can decide for yourself what the risks are, how likely you will get Covid (and then how severe that would be) vs Costs of just cancelling the trip. I can't speak to the financial situation you are in or even health factors.
Look on the bright side, very similar situation to you... except my mother went into hospital with cancer a couple of days after my wife and I left for my honeymoon, and she never came out.
For what it's worth, as long as I was young and healthy... I'd be going on the trip. I'd just be as careful as possible. (Assuming you're not literally planning on visiting the quarantine zone!)
French Public hospitals have been deep in serious crisis for months now, being understaffed, underpaid and exhausted. They're on strike since middle of last year at least...
That's probably the main course of action of authorities : to mitigate contagion so that patients come on hospitals at a slow pace. The system won't be able to sustain a dramatic surges in admissions, there aren't enough staff or beds.
