The point is all you hear about is new cases and total, and it doesn't send out the message to the public that people are getting better. There is quite of bit of significant good news and trends, and it almost never gets mentioned.
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Well maybe we can do our part by communicating it in this thread and among our personal contacts.
This thread has seen a lot of defeatism lately, and a lot of people coming in saying that certain defeatist posts are causing them terror. It's counter-productive imo.
That air pollution data and checks from recent daily data of the past week prove things are far from business as usual in China, even if new case numbers are apparently dropping. And for all the forced residential containment going on we'll never have proper numbers.
The acceleration curve of international cases going up is starting to look like the one from China a month ago, but it might just be because more testing is being done vs how much the infection is spreading. Can the rest of the planet manage to clamp things down as hard as China did? We can see how much stuff is varying by country. South Korea? Seemingly on top of it. Iran? The US? Not so much so.
Regardless, any of you reading the thread can remain personally diligent. You don't have any real power on if and when larger spreading might come near you, but you can still help protect yourself.
The acceleration curve of international cases going up is starting to look like the one from China a month ago, but it might just be because more testing is being done vs how much the infection is spreading. Can the rest of the planet manage to clamp things down as hard as China did? We can see how much stuff is varying by country. South Korea? Seemingly on top of it. Iran? The US? Not so much so.
Regardless, any of you reading the thread can remain personally diligent. You don't have any real power on if and when larger spreading might come near you, but you can still help protect yourself.
Crews disinfect Palo Alto classrooms after students sent home due to possible coronavirus exposure
Two students were sent home from two different schools in Palo Alto on Thursday after the district learned they may have been exposed to the coronavirus.
www.kron4.com
It's moving south from Sacramento. Look out LA
Considering Pence's history in Indiana with praying away HIV's instead of instituting a needle exchange program, I say they have a reason to be concerned.
We literally can't take anything the admin says at face value because Trump is only interested in protecting himself. Because he's psychologically narcissistic. The WHO will be a much more reliable resource.
Right, it's dropping, nobody says it was back to normal. Some places have gotten better, but people are remaining cautious as to risk increasing the infection again.
There are both zero reasons to be anywhere near panic and to put your trust on Trump, who literally just put the one guy in charge, who is even less qualified than his cleptomaniac clan
The good news is pretty much limited to China after huge containment measures that probably wont be replicated anywhere else. If you aren't in China its pretty much bad news all around.
It depends a bit, a lot of countries don't have that information about other countries. In Belgium every time they mention the second case they talk about the first case being healed.
The fact that the US government is running a god damn disinformation campaign about this is fucking insane.
At this point I'm just trying to be realistic about it I guess. I'm not going to panic or do anything different as far as my day to day life goes, but I'm aware that this is probably going to show up in my area at some point
At this point I'm just trying to be realistic about it I guess. I'm not going to panic or do anything different as far as my day to day life goes, but I'm aware that this is probably going to show up in my area at some point
You're right, but one difference is that the rest of the world is jumping on it significantly earlier than China did. We won't be able to brutally clamp down, but hopefully we can act to contain as many cells as possible and proactively protect vulnerable populations. Remember that China completely ignored this while Wuhan was becoming hell on earth and people were freely traveling all over the country due to Lunar New Year.
The US is acting later than we'd like, but even now we aren't seeing hospitals overflowing with mystery viral pneumonia cases the way Wuhan was. Wuhan was in a collapse scenario before a finger was lifted.
Well, Trump said it was all back to normal! It's good they're trying to be this safe about it, but there'll be arguing from assholes the rest of the year while economies take hits about why China didn't try harder, why they took so long to take action, etc. The best of humanity coming out! Joy.
Basically this. The US in particular will have this roadblock. Americans really, REALLY hate being told what not to do. Trust in government is at pretty much an all-time low, and even in the best of times people proudly ignore advice of public officials just because they don't like what they're saying.
Do you really think praying is all they did? Seriously ask yourself that.
Being concerned about Pences ability to handle the situation is understandable. Simply taking issue with prayer is another. The person who first posted that made it seem like they were doing the latter.
1577 active cases in Italy, 34 dead, 83 recovered (with "recovered" they intend the people that are tested negative twice in the arc of two days, so the number could be a bit higher). The severe cases are about 9%. Most of them are elderly people, but this is a very big problem, especially in Italy (where we have a lot of elderly people, more than most of the world in percentage).
www.ansa.it
The new cases aren't exactly "new". Most of the people were already infected before the lockdowns (this is a theme that we'll see all over the world in the next days).
Coronavirus, Borrelli: 'Oltre 1.500 malati, 34 morti, 83 i guariti'. A Roma chiusa San Luigi dei francesi - Salute & Benessere
Il TESTO del Dpcm: parola-chiave droplet, sport a porte chiuse in regioni cluster, limitazioni bar e chiese. Borrelli: 'Oltre 1.500 ammalati, 34 morti, 83 i guariti'. A Roma prima chiesa chiusa: è San Luigi dei francesi. Il prete che ci era stato, ricoverato in Francia per il contagio. Il...
www.ansa.it
The new cases aren't exactly "new". Most of the people were already infected before the lockdowns (this is a theme that we'll see all over the world in the next days).
The news coming out from the White House isn't much better. The Trump administration has been caught flat-footed and the orange's response is to pick a yes-man to tell everyone that they have it under control and to buy stock.
Can we stop with these suggestive posts? Trump is the worst possible President to handle a crisis. Mike Pence is the worst possible pick to handle a epidemic.
Trust scientists around the world, trust people at CDC who were hired before Trump, stay calm, do rationale precautions and seriously, relax.
People are right to criticize them for prayer. Why? Because it's for show. The Republicans are the modern day Pharisees. They care about being seen praying. They don't care about actual good acts.
Don't be so naive. The images of them playing is for their Evangelical base. They only care about power and control. Religion is simply a means of achieving that.
THIS is what they're really doing. Follow their actions, not what they put up for show.
Sindh govt announces closure of public and private schools, colleges and universities till March 13
KARACHI: The public and private educational institutes throughout Sindh will remain closed from March 2-13, 2020, the provincial chief minister's spokesperson announced on Sunday.The spokesperson...
www.thenews.com.pk
I think it's perfectly illustrative of how Pence has handled public health emergencies in the past. Combine that with the White House taking the stance that the coronavirus is literally a conspiracy to take down the President and you have a nightmare on your hands.
Ok but he is not the only person in the room there are other people in there that want to keep their kids, friends, family and colleauges safe.
Holy hell, how far up the social order do you have to be to get a transplant for this on minimal notice? Someone in his late 50s, too. Also they video makes no mention of if this person was actually cured, just that it was a person who had been infected. Organ came in via high speed train in a neatly staged photo op, too.
It goes both ways. People are literally saying in this thread that the picture of praying is causing them terror.
It is not helpful to indicate to people that if they're in the US, they have been abandoned by the government. People from the ground level and up are working hard on this.
1577 active cases in Italy, 34 dead, 83 recovered (with "recovered" they intend the people that are tested negative twice in the arc of two days, so the number could be a bit higher). The severe cases are about 9%. Most of them are elderly people, but this is a very big problem, especially in Italy (where we have a lot of elderly people, more than most of the world in percentage).
Coronavirus, Borrelli: 'Oltre 1.500 malati, 34 morti, 83 i guariti'. A Roma chiusa San Luigi dei francesi - Salute & Benessere
Il TESTO del Dpcm: parola-chiave droplet, sport a porte chiuse in regioni cluster, limitazioni bar e chiese. Borrelli: 'Oltre 1.500 ammalati, 34 morti, 83 i guariti'. A Roma prima chiesa chiusa: è San Luigi dei francesi. Il prete che ci era stato, ricoverato in Francia per il contagio. Il...
The new cases aren't exactly "new". Most of the people were already infected before the lockdowns (this is a theme that we'll see all over the world in the next days).
Makes me wonder how many people in the EU actually already went through it without even knowing it.
I mean, one of austria's first cases was already 10 days in hospital before they even tested him positive. They first thought he had the common flu..
How many days after recovery can the virus be traced in your system?
For all the people in that room who really believe in their prayer, there's others who care more about the power and control that organized religion affords them.
By the time there is overflowing pneumonia cases in hospitals its already too late to contain without drastic measures. South Korea shows that even with a response pretty much unseen by any other country besides China, this can still get out of hand (they are running out of hospital beds in Daegu).
I live in one of the areas in the US with several cases. I have symptoms that correlate with what we're seeing here. Went to a clinic, got a flu and strep swab, both came negative, did a chest x-ray and they couldn't decide anything about it. They said I definitely have something viral but they can't figure out what. They asked me the questionnaire for travel and recent contacts who have traveled, but I don't have any, so they didn't test me for covid. Sent me back home saying to come back if I feel worse.
I'll be self quarantining.
I'll be self quarantining.
2 weeks off work and it's legit! Pizza, Video Games. Do it.
This is a very interesting question and noone gave a straight answer.
"Recovery" in covid-19 doesn't indicate the end of the symptoms, but the absence of the virus in your body. Right now, at least in Italy, to be considered "recovered" you have to go through two tests in two days.
Though in China there have been traces of the virus in feces of patients who where considered "recovered" from up to 14 days*. It really all depends from the tests the world is going to use in the next weeks.
*Also, this can't be considered a medical fact. Earlier tests (and maybe the ones still used today) might had some false negatives.
Singapore's Duke NUS Medical school came up with a test that detects whether your body has the same antibodies that COVID19 patients have after they recovered. It was how they determined that a particular case was infected after she recovered.
Science | AAAS
www.sciencemag.org
Assuming for a second that you did have it, it sucks that they won't or can't test you so we can get some accurate metrics.
Trusting 4 years of worst possible goverment, which was waging a war on anything related to science and helping people , which made many groundworkers quit(if they didn't get fired) is foolish.
Losing your marbles over that pic might be even more foolish, I agree on that. I would suggest removal because it lacks context and causes too much concern.
Good on you for taking precautions to protect others. Hope you recover well & quickly whatever it is.
The 2021 Global Health Security Index
The 2021 GHS Index measures the capacities of 195 countries to prepare for epidemics and pandemics.
www.ghsindex.org
US ranked number 1 in terms of epidemic readiness. How is this possible in a country where you can bankrupt yourself by going to hospital?
Stay strong. Keep hydrated and for fuck sake start a new video game.
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What they're saying is that this is a procedure for people who have recovered from the virus but got their lungs destroyed in the process.
Same way that the US is ranked low in corruption - because the US exerts a ton of control on those bodies and the metrics they use to measure such things.The 2021 Global Health Security Index
The 2021 GHS Index measures the capacities of 195 countries to prepare for epidemics and pandemics.
US ranked number 1 in terms of epidemic readiness. How is this possible in a country where you can bankrupt yourself by going to hospital?
They seem to be running on the assumption that there isn't unseen spreading caused by asymptomatic carriers, as we know happens for days if not weeks with infected people. This is bound to be the case in any area where it eventually gets out of control by nature of how it spreads. We need a lot more testing in this country pronto.
Singapore's Duke NUS Medical school came up with a test that detects whether your body has the same antibodies that COVID19 patients have after they recovered. It was how they determined that a particular case was infected after she recovered.
Science | AAAS
Mmhh interesting
I hope the test will be available worldwide some day to see how many people actually went through it.
I believe the numbers would be skyrocking
Pretty sure they'll hear about it through their local news sources anyway.
I think governments will realize we'd be worst off, so it will move to education and personal responsibility. Stopping the world economy won't help.
That would be hugely important if confirmed. Even because right now, let me get this straight, any "lethal percentage" or stuff like that is completely bullshit. We need to have a bigger picture of the global infection before claiming data.Science | AAAS