From the NYT article posted on the previous page.
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"Nothing to see here!"
*requests billions in funding*
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It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
At least people are getting creative, I wonder what's next. Maybe comparing it to brushing your teeth or riding a carousel.
All of the Italian deaths were elderly and had preexisting conditions. You can't really compare that.
Frankly in an abundance of caution I would suggest avoiding carousels of any kind because they could harbor SARS-Cov-19 for many hours after contact by an infected person.
We can't make anything of the Italian numbers yet because we're still early in the cycle. It will be a much better comparison in 4 weeks.
No. I'm not making shit up. Driving is one of the most dangerous thing you can do in Everyday life statistically speaking. Yet it is accepted as part of everyday life now with all the risks associated with it. That's not whataboutism. It's managed risk taking and cost benefit analysis.
While some are commenting that there could be cases that somehow are passing undetected, I don't think that is.
Basically all of Central and South America has free healthcare so anyone in the doubt will go and get tested. Plus, and this personal speculation, any chance of the virus appearing will be in urban centers with acess to more complex medical infraestructure. Some of the health infraestructure here is crap, but I remember reading that most South American countries have taken measures and have the test available in case of suspicious cases.
Just reading about the damage Trump has done to organisations that are supposed to help avoid pandemic diseases. The fucker is looking forward to making money from people's suffering, isnt he? Does he really have to fuck with EVERYTHING.
Every year that passes, the world just gets worse.
Every year that passes, the world just gets worse.
Yeah, but only you and the victim(s) will be affected by a car accident. The people you infect can infect other people who can infect more people, creating a snowball effect. I think people shouldn't forget about this and take precautionary actions in their daily lives now to minimize risks. Not just for yourself but also for other human beings.
Another reason for Medicare for All. Can't Congress pass a law that make government cover the costs for all Corona related treatments?
And our foreign secretary Stef Blok visited Iran last weekend:
No panic but European virus response can be a bit confusing
*link updated for a better source*
Let's just see in a few weeks if our entire government is infected.
This is fine.
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Which is the same way with driving, air pollution and local particulate matter from car exhaust and car tires hitting asphalt.
But I agree that precautions, not panic is the thing people need to do.
But anyway I'll stop as it's veering a bit off topic now. won't reply to quoted stuff after this regarding this subject.
Iranian politician:
"And that is why nobody should be worrying about the zombie outbreak. There is no reason for you to stress your delicious, creamy braaaaaains!" *his arm drops off*
Our industry has a huge trade show in Germany at the end of March /beginning of April. With global attendance (aircraft industry) I'm kinda unsure now if this even takes place. Would be kinda funny if it doesn't since we've been working on it for months... Heh
All of Europe has free health care. I can promise you that virtually no one with mild flu symptoms during the flu season is going to get tested for corona (for example, my country has tested 98 suspicious cases to date according to Ministry of Healthcare data, while tens of thousands of people have mild flu symptoms currently).
Aaaand some cases appeared in France too...
Lot of work to do in March, a trip in sicilia early April, this fucking virus is wreck my schedule...
Not sure if I'm going to maintain my sicilia vacations... We'll see in the coming days...
Anyway, I hope people stay safe, pregnant women, the toddlers, the ill will have to be careful...
Lot of work to do in March, a trip in sicilia early April, this fucking virus is wreck my schedule...
Not sure if I'm going to maintain my sicilia vacations... We'll see in the coming days...
Anyway, I hope people stay safe, pregnant women, the toddlers, the ill will have to be careful...
This is gonna get a lot worse soon. I know a lot of people here in germany go on vacations for the Easter break and infections are probably gonna jump at that point (early April).
Exactly. Same reason I refuse to use condoms and sleep with as many random people as possible. Because cars.
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These were from a first wave, somehow "imported cases" mostly.
The new ones seem to be from a new wave, more installed in the region.
The two situations aren't similar, though. If you decide to drive drunk and end up getting in an accident, you might kill yourself or another driver. If you get sick with the flu or this virus and decide to take public transit, the ripple effect of your poor decision has the potential to infect an entire community.
Bolded for you.
It is interesting how you come up with this, especially in the same post I explicitly said you should have good hygiene practice. I am just saying there is no need to panic especially if you don't panic on many other ways that is more likely to kill you. Do you even read the post that you quote or you just like to put word in other's mouth?
Not panicking whether your next date has STD != not doing any safe practice.
Meant to be travelling to Germany via Zurich tomorrow AM for a meeting of international people. The guy I was travelling with has just this last Sunday returned from a ski trip in Northern Italy, and there is a member of staff at his kids school being tested having returned from there as well with cold-like symptoms.
He's not going, wondering if I should. Logistically it's a pain in the ass because a lot of the booking is in his name, particularly the car hire which is required for the ~2 hour drive.
He's not going, wondering if I should. Logistically it's a pain in the ass because a lot of the booking is in his name, particularly the car hire which is required for the ~2 hour drive.
China went to extreme lengths to quarantine people in Hubei and get things under control. Executing that on a global scale would be devastating in and of itself.
I have never understood this logic.A new virus doesn't not effect the rate of automobile deaths. Presenting it like this implies that there is some sort of exchange going on.
Also, I do see panicking about needing to drive, pretty often actually. Driving is a huge source of stress for people. Panic can be bad, but concern is a human trait for a reason, arguing from analogy to try to make people not act like human beings is not going to be particularly effective.
.... I was referring to South America, not Europe...?
We're in summer and not in the flu season, so anybody with high fever or symptoms that could be Covid will consult. The comment was regarding the idea that the virus could be undetected in these regions due to people not going to the doctor thinking its a mild cold or the health care sytstem letting them pass through the cracks.
What is your definition of a lot worse? Total active cases has steadily been decreasing, and new daily cases have gone way down.
I know it's concerning when it reaches a new country, but the numbers point to a steady trend of improvement, not worsening.
I'm demonstrating that statistics don't work how you think they do. Even if more people die every year of driving, that doesn't make COVID-19 safer than driving, it may just mean that less people have been exposed to that danger within the group of people that you have decided to base your percentage on.
You've arbitrarily chosen a sample group to support your hypothesis, it's a disingenuous observation at best.
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The press. Cases in France were chinese tourists or business man coming back from China.
Now one is a chinese tourist too, but the other is more "domestic", coming back from northern Italy.
I'm no specialist at all, mind you. But it seems like a natural evolution. Northern Italy, switzerland, catalunia are really close to France and connections are deep.
So, no need to panic imo, but yeah, it's probably coming.
I'm talking about europe, specifically germany where a lot of people do vacations in italy/northern africa over the easter holidays to get some sun. Considering there are no borders between germany and italy chances of containing it to italy are slim to none.
Case in point:
25yo german got infected in milan and was just now tested positive for corona in germany
Yes of course it matters what is this. The general non-smoking public shouldn't be too concerned about dying from lung cancer.
do people have to downplay everything?
Numbers are going down in China, but it's just starting to spread to other countries, there's no Need to downplay that.
Aside from singapore, just about every country outside of China that has had the virus, has increased dramatically day by day, the dramatic increase in Iran and Italy means its all but certain to spread through most of Europe at this point, there is no healthcare mechanisms like an autocratic governments response to a regional crackdown like there appears to be in Wuhan, so that one is more a special case then the standard.
I don't know, Singapore gets higher temperatures than the ones here in Mexico City.
I didn't downplay it. I put it in a real, non hyperbolic or fear mongering perspective.
The virus is serious. It spreading to other countries is a serious concern. But the overall trends have been positive.
It would be amusing if Medicare for All is finally enacted via state of emergency by the next president, de facto if not de jure.
Nathaniel Weixel on Twitter
“CDC Anne Schuchat: says #coronavirus is likely to become global pandemic.”
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Moderna has submitted a potential vaccine for testing to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
I think we'll just have to fasten our seatbelts when things start taking off.