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TCM is all bullshit, but there is no reason to believe this outbreak is related to this stuff.
TCM is not all bullshit. It works for some people - and for some, it doesn't work. I went to one for my Tinnitus and congested year after seeing several ENTs last year, and it solved the problem for me.
I'm sort who will always go to western medicine first for my problems. But if it doesn't work - you turn to alternatives.
Typical ERA mindset where everything is either in black or white.
It is definitely bullshit though when it's pushing itself down patient's throats by state decree in Wuhan and other places in China even now.
Historically, it was something the CPC invented pretty much of whole cloth because they were poor as fuck and couldn't afford medicine for the entire population.
The people who pushed for that knew that modern medicine is better than that, but China couldn't afford it at the time.
They pulled stuff from a lot of places and sources, so it's possible that some of the stuff there do work for certain things, but as a concept of medicine, it's bullshit.
Anecdotally, I have tried TCM versions for simple OTC stuff (headache, fever, cough, heartburn) and none of it seem to work for me.
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Aaand we're back to Level 3 in South Korea:
Screenshotting their notices page this time:
Shit shit shit. My bf has been there the last year in Busan teaching and hes been set to come home March 12th. Last week was the final week of school and they closed it because of the virus. They should of put his ass on the plane then instead hes still there and concerned that they might quarantine the whole damn city before he gets out.
Is there a bonus tied to the last paycheque?
He should ask really nicely to take a prorated bonus and skidaddle.
All cultures in the world have herbal remedies for illnesses. Even western medicine say that some foods help boost immune systems, lower cancer risks. It's not hard for me to imagine scientific reasoning behind some stuff working. As with all things, gotta use your best judgement.
I have a good friend who got horribly sick after trying some TCM (at her family's insistence) while pregnant. My best judgement says to stick with peer-reviewed and experimentally proven medicine.
That can sometimes also leave people horribly sick. But at least you are aware of the risk going into it.
Wait a second. South Korea intends to test all 200,000 members of the Shincheonji church for coronavirus*, but Japan refused to test everyone on the Diamond Princess --- just a few thousand people --- because it was too difficult? Something doesn't add up here.
[*] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-centre-of-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKCN20J048
[*] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-centre-of-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKCN20J048
I mean, I an anecdotedly say the same thing, but accounting for a large population, it still does happen. It was said above that this exotic meat industry is... kind of big. Farmed or not, it's still a thing and a place where animals can potemtially get sick as well.
Doesn't change the fact that if this new law is actually taken seriously, it could deter these sorts of sketchy markets from even opening up, which is still better for for the people and animals.
I thought that this article was well written, easy to read, and a fairly comprehensive summary:
apple.news
You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus — The Atlantic
Most cases are not life-threatening, which is also what makes the virus a historic challenge to contain.
apple.news
Nah. Farmed dogs are usually were the meats from. It's not a problem since they're domesticated and unlikely to be vectors of virus.
Newborn baby with coronavirus cured with no treatment in 17 days
Doctors in China have announced that a 17-day-old baby who tested positive for the coronavirus at birth earlier this month has been cured.
www.news.com.au
They don't really eat dogs in China.
They have this one festival that started in the 90s in bum fuck Guangxi to promote a local alcoholic drink where they use dog meat as a gimmick, but that's about it.
Just thought I'd let you know that's not how those tweets read at all. He's just pointing out that a helpful source might have been closed off for the public.
Dude there are some very graphic videos on YouTube dogs being cooked in China. They're not fake. And how do you use actual dog meat as a gimmick?
Yeah. Dog meat was part of the diet for some regions. The particular town in the video is infamous there for their treatment. Idk the practice is still going on there.
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I meant that it's a way to attract tourists to their lychee liqueur festival.
It's not something that they eat there or anywhere on the regular. Most Chinese people find it repulsive and there are constant social media campaigns to get that banned. People in the west only heard of this festival because Chinese people raised a fuss on weibo.
Also, do we really have to do this kind of shit in this thread?
One of Korean Air's cabin crew tests positive for coronavirus
One of the cabin crew of Korean Air has tested positive for coronavirus, the airline said on Tuesday, prompting it to shut its office near the Incheon International Airport, where the crew briefing room is located.
www.reuters.com
Also, is eating dogs somehow a worse dietary practice than eating pigs, cows, goats?
I think it's kinda bad that so many people in the west think they eat dogs in China.
And I don't know, do people really have to pop in this thread and wax poetic about the thing they read about China and they don't like?
Like, if the US was dealing with an epidemic would people come and say how if you don't tip then the NRA come and shoot you?
Will probably go to buy 2 weeks worth of food and water this week. There's a new case of infection almost everyday and have this feeling that the Japanese government isn't taking the situation too seriously because economy is more important for them. Masks are almost impossible to find here in Tokyo.
If the situation doesn't get worse, at least I'll have enough food and water if there's a huge earthquake or during the typhoon season.
If the situation doesn't get worse, at least I'll have enough food and water if there's a huge earthquake or during the typhoon season.
Japan has had awful response to the virus.
They have similar cases to Korea and they have done nothing.
Just yesterday they said that they were gonna let people that worked in the Princess for containment go back home without any test at all.
In Tokyo's public transport.
What the hell is going on in Germany?
www.reddit.com
At least they've finally started testing people with flu-like symptoms.
www.mdr.de
r/Coronavirus - Germany is embarassing itself
210 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit
www.reddit.com
At least they've finally started testing people with flu-like symptoms.
Ab sofort Coronavirus-Test bei Grippeverdacht | MDR.DE
Patienten mit Grippeverdacht werden laut Robert-Koch-Institut jetzt stichprobenartig auf das neue Coronavirus untersucht. In mehreren Praxen werden Abstriche auf Influenzaviren und auf das Virus aus China getestet.
www.mdr.de
He should have asked them directly instead of calling them out on Twitter. This was posted 20 minutes before those tweets:
Virus arrived in Firenze, and Palermo.
Tuscany and Sicily.
www.repubblica.it
Tuscany and Sicily.
Coronavirus, 325 casi in Italia. Altri tre morti in Lombardia e uno in Veneto, le vittime diventano 11
I dati aggiornati della protezione civile. Casi in 9 regioni. Primi contagi in Toscana e a Palermo e due in Liguria. Ricciardi (Oms): "Ridimensionare l…
www.repubblica.it
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Virus arrived in Firenze, and Palermo.
Tuscany and Sicily.
Coronavirus, 325 casi in Italia. Altri tre morti in Lombardia e uno in Veneto, le vittime diventano 11
I dati aggiornati della protezione civile. Casi in 9 regioni. Primi contagi in Toscana e a Palermo e due in Liguria. Ricciardi (Oms): "Ridimensionare l…
Shit :/
クルーズ船で業務 厚労省職員 多くがウイルス検査せず職場復帰 | NHKニュース
新型コロナウイルスの集団感染が確認されたクルーズ船で、厚生労働省の職員の多くが、船内での業務を終えた後、ウイルス検査を受…
検査をせずに23人をクルーズ船から下船させるミス 加藤厚労相が陳謝（ABEMA TIMES） - Yahoo!ニュース
クルーズ船の乗客23人について、本来は必要な再検査をせずに下船させていたことがわかった。
headlines.yahoo.co.jp
栃木の６０代女性、クルーズ船下船後検査で陽性 : 社会 : ニュース
栃木県は２２日、新型コロナウイルスの集団感染が起きたクルーズ船「ダイヤモンド・プリンセス」を１９日に下りた６０歳代の女性が、下船後の検査で陽性であることが判明したと発表した。同船からは、検査で陰性となり症状のない約９７
www.yomiuri.co.jp
I'm Chinese and a guy covered his mouth with his jacket as I got on the London Tube carriage. I wouldn't have connected it if I hadn't seen that happen in a video online.
Hong Kong schools are closed until April 20 at the earliest.
www.scmp.com
No return to school for Hong Kong pupils until after Easter at earliest
School classes will remain suspended until after Easter holiday but education chief says university entrance exams will go ahead as planned from March 27.
www.scmp.com
Virus arrived in Firenze, and Palermo.
Tuscany and Sicily.
Coronavirus, 325 casi in Italia. Altri tre morti in Lombardia e uno in Veneto, le vittime diventano 11
I dati aggiornati della protezione civile. Casi in 9 regioni. Primi contagi in Toscana e a Palermo e due in Liguria. Ricciardi (Oms): "Ridimensionare l…
Inevitable unfortunately. You can't stop millions of people moving between places, especially if they don't feel ill at all (since you could be carrying it for weeks before you even cough). I'm honestly almost waiting for it to happen here as well to get over with it ASAP.
What the hell is going on in Germany?
r/Coronavirus - Germany is embarassing itself
210 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit
At least they've finally started testing people with flu-like symptoms.
Ab sofort Coronavirus-Test bei Grippeverdacht | MDR.DE
Patienten mit Grippeverdacht werden laut Robert-Koch-Institut jetzt stichprobenartig auf das neue Coronavirus untersucht. In mehreren Praxen werden Abstriche auf Influenzaviren und auf das Virus aus China getestet.
He should have asked them directly instead of calling them out on Twitter. This was posted 20 minutes before those tweets:
I have the flu since Sunday and went to the doctor yesterday. This was also the first time they had to immediately take my blood and to test it which confused me. Not like I will have it (they didn't take anything from my nose or throat so in my case I wasn't on the radar there), but I wouldn't be surprised if they are very cautious now. They even took 5 and not 3 blood ampoules. Carnevale will fuck everyone up yeah.
An Italian doctor staying at hotel H10 Costa Adeje Palace (Tenerife, Spain) has been tested positive for COVID-19. The hotel, with a little over 1k people, has been put in quarantine.
metro.co.uk
Edit: fixed typo.
Hotel 'in lockdown' after doctor tests positive for coronavirus
An Italian doctor, believed to be from the region of Italy where there is a coronavirus outbreak, has tested positive for the illness.
metro.co.uk
Edit: fixed typo.
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It feels like Spain is only getting the virus due to tourists lolAnd Italian doctor staying at hotel H10 Costa Adeje Palace (Tenerife, Spain) has been tested positive for COVID-19. The hotel, with a little over 1k people, has been put in quarantine.
Hotel 'in lockdown' after doctor tests positive for coronavirus
An Italian doctor, believed to be from the region of Italy where there is a coronavirus outbreak, has tested positive for the illness.
I hope it didn't infect anyone.
Some good news from Vietnam..
www.nytimes.com
All 16 of Vietnam's Coronavirus Sufferers Cured
All 16 people in Vietnam infected with a new coronavirus have been cured, the health ministry said on Tuesday, adding that no new cases have been recorded since Feb. 13.
I would argue that when TCM (even TCM injections, which is even more bullshit than oral) is being forcibly promoted and used during treatment of patients throughout China, it is a risk factor and just goes to show what kind of autocratic shithole the whole situaion is.
Also it is confirmed that the new wildlife trade ban does not include banning "medicinal use", which means the ban will not work.
The whole situation partly arises from typical Chinese philosophy towards medicine, and the combination of medicine and food. It is something that is in complete contradiction to modern understanding of medical and nutritional science.
And before anyone accusing me of orentialism or anyting like that, I'm Chinese and I'm tired of my compatriots spouting all those quackery for ages.