It's denial. For some people it takes for the threat to be literally right in front of their noses to even start considering it real.
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It's denial. For some people it takes for the threat to be literally right in front of their noses to even start considering it real.
Considering the situation in Italy, I would've thought there'd be considerations of not celebrating carnival in Germany. As of tomorrow there'll be huge crowds in many towns and cities. I'm having trouble not feeling panicked about this.
Also the poor doctors who died in China were all early 40s-ish. Is repeated exposure a thing? Otherwise they seem a bit young to be a group at risk?
Also the poor doctors who died in China were all early 40s-ish. Is repeated exposure a thing? Otherwise they seem a bit young to be a group at risk?
Where are you traveling? Don't panic, please, it will do you no good.
thanks, i have to go to california and hawaii, normally id be thrilled at the chance, but now i just feel dread.
As long as you are good with keeping up the date of expiry, I agree. My aunt is a horder and has often wasted food because her backlog of food is just too big.
Exhaustion from amount of work could have been one of the factors in their deaths.
China reported 1716 infected healthcare workers a week ago with 6 deaths.
The coronavirus has infected more than 1,700 healthcare workers in China, killing 6 of them
Nearly 500,000 people have come in contact with coronavirus patients, officials say. Just shy of 180,000 of them are now under medical observation.
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It's bad luck, basically. With that number of infected some poor bastard is going to draw the short straw eventually, even though the group as a whole is fairing better than the general population
It seems she was already hospitalized in the Oncology ward in Cremona. There is still not information about her age.
Yes. But the woman had a cancer. Meanwhile, in all the Lombardy ALL the pubs, discoclubs and other will closing at 6:00PM local time.
Fatigue, stress and preexisting condition play a factor.
Plus sadly, low chance don't mean no chance.
Oh, no... Not a doctor... :(
Is that the youngest death from the virus?
Another 29 year old doctor died from it in Wuhan.
Pretty sure the mortality rate for people in that age group for SARS was 0 or close to that.
Given that I've seen mortality rates calculated for younger age brackets, I don't think so, but she must be in the running.
China reported 1716 infected healthcare workers a week ago with 6 deaths.
The coronavirus has infected more than 1,700 healthcare workers in China, killing 6 of them
Nearly 500,000 people have come in contact with coronavirus patients, officials say. Just shy of 180,000 of them are now under medical observation.
It's bad luck, basically. With that number of infected some poor bastard is going to draw the short straw eventually, even though the group as a whole is fairing better than the general population
Definitively healthcare workers have higher risk, don't make the same error has many do to, to discriminate against them.
Those doctors are heroes for trying to work through a virus, and almost certainly being over-worked to the point of over-exhaustion
Stress does terrible things to the body, so I can only imagine the pressure of trying to save lives while fighting for your own
A lot of doctors in the states aren't even out of residency at 29
Stress does terrible things to the body, so I can only imagine the pressure of trying to save lives while fighting for your own
A lot of doctors in the states aren't even out of residency at 29
I'm not worried really at all; considering the common flu kills many more people per year but I gotta ask if there have been any developments on a vaccine/effective treatment? it's difficult to sift through legit information on the virus... i don't think it's probable that this can be contained indefinitely.
This is much deadlier then the flu like .1% mortality vs ~2% and is more infectious so a lot scarier then the flu.
A Chinese vaccine is supposed start trials in April and there are a couple other ones that might too, but there isn't going to be a vaccine any time soon.
And then after a vaccine is approved need to mass produce it so add a while longer afterwards.
So it has come to my place as well. You can almost see my home from that pic.
Fuck you fucking stupid guy from lodi
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Fuck you fucking stupid guy from lodi
Coronavirus, 2 casi a Bergamo e Seriate Chiuso l’ospedale di Alzano: terzo positivo
Una persona è risultata positiva al coronavirus a Bergamo, un altro caso a Seriate e uno ad Alzano all’ospedale, ora chiuso in isolamento. La notizia è trapelata nel pomeriggio di domenica 23 febbraio. Un ristorante di Spino al Brembo ha avuto un cliente della provincia di Lodi poi risultato...
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jfc. Seems so slow. Thank you for the information. Is there any chance this will die down when flu season is over?
Regardless, not going to get all nuts if the recovery rate is 98% but I do hope we start hearing more positive news soon...
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1. Don't fear-monger in here.
2. Don't work yourself into a frenzy over travelling domestically. You're not even leaving the country.
3. Unless you're of old age or possess serious preexisting health conditions you're at little risk, so just be diligent about your hygiene and wash your hands frequently.
Extreme fatigue and work stress causes immunosuppression.
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In this helpful twitter thread posted late in the previous topic, I was surprised to see this line re 2009's H1N1:
"The 2009 H1N1 pandemic is often remembered as being "mild", but there was a quite a significant health impact: an estimated 43-89 million people in the US were infected and 12,000 people died between Apr2009-Apr2010."
I was living here, I follow the news a lot, am I misremembering how big a deal it was? Because I don't recall being concerned at the time, or going about my day any differently, or knowing anyone who got it.
"The 2009 H1N1 pandemic is often remembered as being "mild", but there was a quite a significant health impact: an estimated 43-89 million people in the US were infected and 12,000 people died between Apr2009-Apr2010."
I was living here, I follow the news a lot, am I misremembering how big a deal it was? Because I don't recall being concerned at the time, or going about my day any differently, or knowing anyone who got it.
Neither California nor Hawaii have registered local outbreaks. The chances you get in contact with someone who could transmit the virus are almost null.
Follow the CDC's recommendations regarding hand washing, and you should be okay. And if I may be blunt, it wouldn't do you harm to put the thread in ignore for now - you're needlessly causing yourself anxiety. Go and enjoy your trip.
No, I'm really concerned about the whole thing in general. It's just crazy that as soon as we decide to look more into it, it shows up in the very place we were planning to go to.
Why is it that most people's first thought on the internet is to be rude to other people?
It's a serious situation, but I feel like unless you are going to Iran, or wuhan..this is a bit hyperbolic? I'm sorry you are feeling this much fear.
Well, it isn't so warm, we are still in February and everyone still go outside with a jacket or coat in Northern italy. I would not say that the current temperature is a typical Spring one. Maybe he is right and this virus will behave differently, but this is another matter.
Please put it into perspective. While you have given us unnecessary commentary regarding your travel plans ( that means you are currently probably in a safe area) to a current hotbed, others are living in those hotbeds/areas.
Was it really necessary to tell us that you had plans to go to Italy and that it sucks that you can't go because of current events? Yes we know it sucks, it sucks especially for people living there. But the situation is more serious than any travel plans.
Because they need that tourism/international business.
drumpf on COVID19
"A lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat, as the heat comes in. Typically that will go away with April,"
"I had a long talk with [Chinese] President Xi [Jinping] … He feels very confident. He feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus. So that would be a good thing."
Every country just sucks up to China.
According this table posted in an earlier article, one person in the 10-19 age range has died in China and 7 (now 8 with Xia Sisi's death) in the 20-29 age range.
Yeah except unless Japan gets this shit under control within a month they'll be losing my business when I cancel my trip, and I'm not the only one even in this very thread (well in the previous thread). Doing not even what should be the bare minimum is criminal negligence.
South Korea and Italy are doing what they can. Others, like Japan, think they can just wish the problem away.
Don't know if this has been posted already but looks like we are in some sort of week-long lockdown in Milan along with other Northern cities. Just got an email from work (ESL teacher) that our institute is going to be closed and we won't be visiting any students for out of school lessons either. My mom who's staying with us just came from the grocery store and everyone is in full blown panic. My sister's uni is also closed along with all others and schools.
Here's an article from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rn-italian-towns-close-schools-and-businesses
It was close to 20C in Milan this past week, almost no one was wearing sweaters any more. I work near the financial district and everyone was carrying their woolen overcoats, including myself. I even saw a few people in t-shirts, so it's definitely getting much warmer than we are used to this time of year.
Here's an article from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rn-italian-towns-close-schools-and-businesses
It was close to 20C in Milan this past week, almost no one was wearing sweaters any more. I work near the financial district and everyone was carrying their woolen overcoats, including myself. I even saw a few people in t-shirts, so it's definitely getting much warmer than we are used to this time of year.
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I'm in a shitty situation. I live in one of the few regions in northern Italy that hasn't been hit yet but I know it's probably a matter of time. My grandfather has been very ill for a long time now (completely unrelated to corona virus), doctors say it'll probably be a matter of days. That's bad enough as it is, but I'm struggling to think how to handle the funeral considering the situation with the virus. Universities and churches are already closed here for the coming week, among other things, I don't know if I'm overreeacting but It seems a bad idea to have a funeral with a lot of people right now. It's a big risk, especially with close relatives that are old/have weak immune systems. It's a terribile situation at the worst possible time. I'm a wreck honestly, can barely keep it together.
Now that's a terrible situation. Don't even know what I would do personally. Seems like it might be prudent to not have a big funeral right now, and perhaps do a big celebration of life event when this thing is gone?
Honest question. How is being worried about something like that fear-mongering?
Nah, those are completely normal temperatures for February in Milan.
I remember the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic as being quite a big deal, but it started in North America, so the coverage of it in western media was way more responsible.
I want to say social media wasn't quite as bad back then, but I'm honestly not sure about that point.
