Big Tech’s Unlikely Next Battleground: North Dakota (Published 2021)
A vote on a bill this week is part of a movement that could cost Apple and Google billions of dollars. State legislatures are becoming the fight’s new front.
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North Dakota Bill was apparently drafted and in a way paid by Epic Games (Coalition for App Fairness)
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The Apple engineer saying it would destroy iPhones probably made Epic look better to be honest. This whole thing is greedy companies wanting more money on both sides and using the consumer as an excuse for that. Nothing will change either way for us regardless of what happens if anything they'll get more anti consumer.
This is how politics works on the US btw. Bills are sponsored by monied interest all the time.
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Lobbying and sponsoring is nothin unusual, but allowing that company drafts the bill is something strange for me.
north dakota had so many of its laws just written by the corporations doing business there that the voters had to put an ethics commission on the ballot themselves because the lawmakers werent doing it
the state has been pillaged by the oil boom, companies coming in and taking everything promising that tomorrow theyll definitely give some money back in taxes... tomorrow for sure, while literally every piece of infrastructure was being ravaged and falling apart. it was the closest thing to the wild west in modern america. now its over and the whole state is just left with all the problems that will still be lingering for years and no money to fix any of it because the politicians drank their own messaging kool aid that if they just stayed out of everything it would all be sunshine and rainbows. and they were right! if you consider sunshine and rainbows as homelessness, drug abuse, and suicide
north dakota politics are very very fucked. theyre all morons
the state has been pillaged by the oil boom, companies coming in and taking everything promising that tomorrow theyll definitely give some money back in taxes... tomorrow for sure, while literally every piece of infrastructure was being ravaged and falling apart. it was the closest thing to the wild west in modern america. now its over and the whole state is just left with all the problems that will still be lingering for years and no money to fix any of it because the politicians drank their own messaging kool aid that if they just stayed out of everything it would all be sunshine and rainbows. and they were right! if you consider sunshine and rainbows as homelessness, drug abuse, and suicide
north dakota politics are very very fucked. theyre all morons
How laws are written by corporations and interest groups, explained visually
From asbestos to sharia law, industry lobbyists are writing model bills, a USA TODAY Network and CPI investigation finds.
www.usatoday.com
From the people that brought you the Coalition of Ordered Governments comes the Coalition for App Fairness.
How laws are written by corporations and interest groups, explained visually
From asbestos to sharia law, industry lobbyists are writing model bills, a USA TODAY Network and CPI investigation finds.
yeah, 'welcome my son, welcome to the machine'...
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How laws are written by corporations and interest groups, explained visually
From asbestos to sharia law, industry lobbyists are writing model bills, a USA TODAY Network and CPI investigation finds.
American Legislative Exchange Council - Wikipedia
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I guess this world really is doomed. When will that rocket for Mars be ready?
Tim's just trying to protect the "little guys", certainly not because he wants to run an exclusive store in Fortnite mobile to peddle their shit without giving the platform a share.
It continually saddens me that the corruption of US politics and the process of how bills have been basically drafted up for, and essentially sponsored by, lobbyists for corporations has been shouted about for decades by journalists, satirists and critics yet it's only when it affects JONATHAN US GAMER that a sizable chunk of gamers pay attention like this is anything new.
It's hard to read some of the hottakes on political policies. Also anyone that would willingly defend any multi billion dollar market cap or better yet $1T+ cap is clearly not woke enough to understand the modern political, socioeconomic and oligarchy system we have in place.
timothy doing the most. i really don't see things going his way in the end, if i'm being honest.
I feel like this is an extremely important story but since it has North Dakota in the headline people just aren't going to care.
That's Republican 'government' in a nutshell - where 'government' is a bad word and corporations dictate everything.
Man that whole "Steam is a monopoly" spiel sure went down the drain fast when you also start to act like a monopoly yourself, attempting to thwart companies OS stores for the sake of profit.
The logic being, the platform vendor has a monopoly on the sales commission, so everyone should be allowed to sell on the marketplace and not be charged any commissions. It's not even a conversation entertaining yet somehow through lobbying, here we are. Make your own platform and let everyone use it for free, oh wait, can't do that on EGS huh?
As far as I know this lowkey has been going on for years if not decades. The money decides whats going into bills like this so whats the difference if they dont officially 'write' it when they are dictating whats in it. Straight up gross, but this is just them saying the quiet part out loud. This is common unfortunately.
Billion dollar mogul talking about tyranny. He's one step away from talking about being "cancelled".
That's what I find so hilarious, because Epic could very easily make their own "OS" instead of forcing a piggyback on others through legislation. But hey that's too hard so why not burn money and use that amazing American political system that's fair and just*. *Fairness and justice only guaranteed if you are a rich company with enough political swing, or white.
I mean, I shouldn't be surprised by anything happening with US politics, especially after last 4 years, but yeah, I am surprised. I still think this will be declared invalid since a State is trying to regulate interstate commerce.
Repubs: Government shouldn't interfere in business.
Also Repubs: Let's make laws in businesses' favors!
Also Repubs: Let's make laws in businesses' favors!
Well i can't read the article, but this was lobbied by a group made up of firms of which Epic is a part of?
That's a lot of mediation that probably happens every day, with all big publishers and console manufacturers on some side of law or another.
That's a lot of mediation that probably happens every day, with all big publishers and console manufacturers on some side of law or another.
It is far more of an issue in US politics than any other country.
Yes, lobbying exists in countries like South Korea, Mexico, and Japan, but again, none of those countries deal with the sheer amount of capital that US politicians handle. Like handling $3.5 billion dollars from special interest groups, both in and outside of the country. And compared to the EU, lobbying is less regulated in the states simply because everything is blanketed under the first amendment. This is just scratching the surface of it and we haven't talked about domestic policies affected by special interest groups like the NRA.
Yes. It's worse than any other country.
Reminds me of this meme, lol.
But it's really terrible how "normal" of a mechanism lobbying is in politics.
But it's really terrible how "normal" of a mechanism lobbying is in politics.
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Usually I don't agree with the whole "if you don't like, do something better" attitude, but Tim is a straight up jackass and I 100% agree with you.
Bribery is perfectly legal in the United States.
Get this: The lobbyists usually write the bills themselves.