Worst part is the game is pro going to be actually good. They have just decided to release it on a dead platform. This whole situation kinda reminds me of Vita.
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NoFrag: People don't care about Half-Life anymore
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Dead platform and yet headsets sell out for months and the active userbase experiences it's fastest growth period?
Use actual logic in your next post, if possible.
Sold out only because there wasn't much production to begin with. Doesn't mean anything. Compared to PC/Consoles, VR is dead.
I rolled my eyes so hard they got out of their sockets. Thank you for making me blind so I won't have to read such takes again.
It's definitely a combination of that and the hardware. There's a whole generation of kids that HL was entirely absent for and now the people that do remember it need to basically spend the same money they could on a new console to play it. They claim it's a future investment and it's their money to burn - and those people obviously do exist to a certain extent - but yeah, it's got a much more limited reach than before.
Funny, it's not even an FFVII situation where the original games have been ported and proliferated all over the place in the years between then and now. I think ports are key to maintaining mindshare.
What is it about VR threads that just bring out the salt in people. Gird your loins: The Half-Life: Alyx review threads are going to be glorious.
Also, the difference between this thread and this other thread is astounding. "dead platform", hoo boy.
Alyx looks to be quite literally the first true next-gen game on the horizon. Niche in the same sense Quake 1 was niche in 1996 because barely anyone had 3D graphics cards and Internet to run it. I haven't been this hyped for a video game since 2004. It's about time games started pushing technology again and not the other way around.
And for the record, Half-Life 2 VR is hands down the. best. video. game. experience. I've ever had in my entire life.
And for the record, Half-Life 2 VR is hands down the. best. video. game. experience. I've ever had in my entire life.
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I'm sure it does take advantage of the Index, but my original comment was about people speaking as though the game is locked behind it. It's obviously not.
The significantly faster userbase growth actually does mean something in relation to the headsets selling out.
as a huge half life fan back in the day, what else do you expect when you let an IP just simmer without any kind of news or celebrations for about 15 years, then release a game that a very small amount of the population is able to afford
That and black Mesa looks the most interesting half Life game released this month
That and black Mesa looks the most interesting half Life game released this month
They want money, like every dev/publisher. And made some of the most played and well suppported games. That's what the 2010 have taught us.
And compared to other devs/publisher, they spent the money on some great things.
How can a platform be dead if it continually grows YoY? It's young and just started.
Love it when groundbreaking tech comes along, Valve knew all along VR was the only fit for the next HL game. And it's going to be incredible.
VR always puts peoples noses out of joint here on Era, A gaming enthusiast forum apparently.
VR always puts peoples noses out of joint here on Era, A gaming enthusiast forum apparently.
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literally done nothing for an entire decade except find new ways to exploit customers via cosmetics but they release 1 vr game suddenly they got the artistic integrity of Michelangelo
I dont think anyone is saying that they have enormous artistic integrity, just that attacking Valve for being to business-like in their approach to VR when it has been a sunken cost and something they have basically been one of the most important elements in the new generation of VR finally taking root is a bit stupid.
Bullshit. No one expected VR and no one asked for a VR game so no need to try to push that revisionist bullshit.
As for game changing expectations? What is that exactly? All we wanted was a follow up to Ep 2. It never needed to be game changing only to finish the fucking story. Were you even around back then?
Episode 1? Episode 2? All of the HL1 expansions?
Half-life is whatever Valve decides it is at any particular time.
Gotta quote someone who answered that:
Half-life is whatever Valve decides to push forward and is interested in doing. Hell, part of the reason behind the VR game being HLA was that they finally felt confortable with making another HL game just, you know, in VR.
The Episodes were Valve trying the Episodic model for gaming
The expansions were not made by Valve but by Gearbox
lol hyperbole much?
They decided to release it on a platform where they thought they could innovate.
I fully expected it. Writing was on the wall when they went silent on HL3/Episode 3 and then started investing in the VR space.
It's amazing how increasingly bad your takes get in every thread you post.
Back when Valve got into VR, plenty of people that were interested in the tech were hoping for a return to Half Life. This become much more apparent after The Lab demo was showcased, as people thought this is what Valve were waiting for to get that next jump the franchise needed. Increasingly more people got excited as 'HLVR' leaks were found as far back as 2016.
Again, stop speaking for everyone. I know you think you're the center of the universe, but the expectations for Half Life 3 are so high that the only way to meet them was to do something groundbreaking.
People are so salty about VR around here, it's not even funny. You might expect something different from an enthusiasts board.
Also, lots of bullshit posts and false facts spread. I wonder how long it will take until a "Half-Life was never that good" thread pops up :-D
It's like talking to flat-earthers. Just the gaming equivalent. Invent logic to dismiss actual logic.
I've spoken to tens of thousands of anti-VR people before. 100% of them have failed to write an entirely logical statement in their crusade against VR.
There's already a few of those posts in this thread. But, I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes the common sentiment here. This board is ever increasingly console focused and very much on the VR hate train.
There's already been posts ITT saying that.
And my personal tastes agree with them tbh.
They went back on sale today and sold out within 2 minutes.
You make a fool of yourself. They released 6 games in the last decade.
I dunno man, I'm pretty sure it's not hard to find people thinking Valve was making a Half-Life VR game since their days of working with Oculus. Around when the Vive came out there was an HTC rep who said something with regards to anticipating a VR Half-Life which put the VR community in an excited tizzy. Heck, we've seen files related to HLVR in Valve game updates for like 3 or 4 years at this point. Whether people expected it to come out is one thing, but it was obvious to anybody paying attention to expect Valve was working on it.
I will speak from my personal perspective. I'm 25 years old. Virtually no one in my environment has played Half-Life, 1 or 2. We were too young when it came out to interest us. He is known by the Half-Life 3 meme and that's it. And nobody has VR, for how expensive it is.
So nobody has a specific interest in either the ip or the platform.
I guess among older gamers it will be different.
So nobody has a specific interest in either the ip or the platform.
I guess among older gamers it will be different.
There was absolutely nothing innovative or groundbreaking about the Episodes.
People act like Half-life was waiting for VR, when in reality it is much more likely that Episode 3 simply ran into development hell then got sidetracked by eSports and microtransactions.
I can see hl3 being vr-exclusive if it means selling out more $1000 headsets like alyx has.
kind of like a new take on the "whale" eco-system of games where you take advantage of those who are trying to participate
it's less eyes on the hl "brand", but also kind of reaffirming the brand as a vehicle for tech-aspiration rather than some AAA blockbuster game that they have to get into the hands and mouths of as many ppl as possible, which is something that every AAA will probably have to reckon with at some point. ofc valve is better positioned to do so with their own VR set out and no shareholders to participate in directing where valve should be going
kind of like a new take on the "whale" eco-system of games where you take advantage of those who are trying to participate
it's less eyes on the hl "brand", but also kind of reaffirming the brand as a vehicle for tech-aspiration rather than some AAA blockbuster game that they have to get into the hands and mouths of as many ppl as possible, which is something that every AAA will probably have to reckon with at some point. ofc valve is better positioned to do so with their own VR set out and no shareholders to participate in directing where valve should be going
It was rumoured since years that the next HL entry will be a VR title. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh... there's a contest going on of who's having the most stupid take. I see. Everyone's a winner!
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PC, Steam, Valve threads are always a source for some good laughs.
Yes, Valve did literally nothing for a decade.
Portal 2 (released in 2010)
Alien Swarm (released in 2010)
Dota 2
Counter-Strike Global Offensive
Artifact (even though it flopped)
Dota Underlords
The Lab (smaller and more of a tech demo though, so I understand not counting this one)
Dota 2 and CSGO are still getting updated to this day, and are both pretty huge games. Dota Underlords is the first mobile game Valve has released (it's on both PC and mobile). Valve has still made games and never stopped making games. Not only that, they already said around the time of the HL Alyx reveal that there were multiple projects that were started and scrapped. We will likely get to learn about some of those in The Final Hours of Half-Life Alyx.
Edit: I somehow forgot Portal 2.
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If HL:Alyx is as masterful as the other Half-life games then unironically yes.
A follow up to this would actually make for a very compelling multiplayer VR game come to think of it.
Not to mention, they have already stated there are an additional two big budget VR games still in the works.
This is obviously false.
Many people speculated that a VR Half-life or Portal game was coming from Valve, and they wrote about it online. The writing was on the wall.