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NoFrag: People don't care about Half-Life anymore
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What can I say, the quality of the article brings out such great and stimulated conversation. You can carry on with the hate train, enjoy!
It's been over ten years since the last game and the newest one is VR only which is still something of a luxury item even by video game standards I'd say, I'm not surprised there's less interest, though the game will obviously do fine.
I was REALLY invested in the series when I first played the Orange Box on my dad's 360 but I can't really care anymore especially since I'm a console user.
I was REALLY invested in the series when I first played the Orange Box on my dad's 360 but I can't really care anymore especially since I'm a console user.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Someone also already explained why google trends aren't good data point so there's that too.
Not sure why I would even google Half-Life in the first place regarding this game, I know to go to Steam to check it out, or to Youtube to check out the trailer.
I honestly don't care anymore. Too much time has passed and I haven't played the original games in many, many years. I just can't muster any enthusiasm at all for half-life in 2020. That ship sailed long ago.
You are being utterly ridiculous.
Hate train? Me explaining that the article is just based on google trends and saying that google trends is generally pretty good at painting a somewhat accurate picture of videogame hype cycles means im hating the game? Incredible -- I have not even shared my opinion on the game (which I think actually looks pretty cool)
Get a grip please.
It's about a 5k difference when you account for £ vs $. A difference, but not a giant leap.
I remember it being a pretty big deal around the days of the original Xbox. Halo 2 vs Half-Life 2 was a pretty common topic.
people are skeptical of VR, that's understandable. it's expensive. i have an oculus cv1 and a quest. i bought the quest just after hl alyx was announced, since then it's been almost impossible to buy a headset because of the excitement over this game, but that excitement and those sales might obscure the scale. whilst lots of vr headsets are sold out right now, the actual total sales might still be relatively small.
trying to judge the relative worth/hype about a modern half life product is anyone's guess. within vr circles, the levels of expectation and excitement around this is extremely high, to a greater audience there's some interest, but it seems somewhat cool, because why get hype about something you wont be able to play.
at the least, with valves statement that this is the beginning of more half life games, we can be excited by the prospect of a continuation of the half life universe.
do people care about half life any more? probably not the same way that we did back then, considering games are much more established and wide ranging now, there's a lot of stuffing vying for our mindshare, so the promise of a re-establishment of 15-20 year old series from a company who many see as having completely divesting itself from making games, and it being in a medium not accessible to many, as i said before, people are skeptical.
trying to judge the relative worth/hype about a modern half life product is anyone's guess. within vr circles, the levels of expectation and excitement around this is extremely high, to a greater audience there's some interest, but it seems somewhat cool, because why get hype about something you wont be able to play.
at the least, with valves statement that this is the beginning of more half life games, we can be excited by the prospect of a continuation of the half life universe.
do people care about half life any more? probably not the same way that we did back then, considering games are much more established and wide ranging now, there's a lot of stuffing vying for our mindshare, so the promise of a re-establishment of 15-20 year old series from a company who many see as having completely divesting itself from making games, and it being in a medium not accessible to many, as i said before, people are skeptical.
1: It's been a long time since HL2: Ep. 2
2: Alyx is exclusive to a relatively expensive VR platform.
I'm pretty sure people still care about HL, just not as many people as back in its heyday. I think the game will still do fine relative to Valve's expectations though.
2: Alyx is exclusive to a relatively expensive VR platform.
I'm pretty sure people still care about HL, just not as many people as back in its heyday. I think the game will still do fine relative to Valve's expectations though.
I would love to be able to say 5k's not a giant difference but your talking about literally a quarter of my pay for the year, it would make a big difference for me!
You seem to be comparing search terms, I was looking at the topics they suggested, Half-Life (video game) and Halo (franchise). Quite a big difference between the two it seems.Doesn't seem like that when I check globally:
I know I'm not as excited as I would/should be, but there's a myriad of factors.
13 years have passed, which is an incredibly long time in game/technology terms.
VR is one of the most niche forms of entertainment for several reasons. Pricey and it's not exactly super casual in terms of how the content is consumed.
Then there's something that was mentioned in one of the other threads: HL:Alyx's world and trappings are more known entities in contrast of the jump from HL and Black Mesa to HL2 and City 17 with the Combine. The risk is in the game design/interaction, not so much in the narrative/art direction/setting, which is much more of an evolution and continuation of the things Half-Life 2 showed people 16 years ago. Yes they are in VR. Yes that alone is exciting. But it's still familiar territory in terms of tropes/props/world.
13 years have passed, which is an incredibly long time in game/technology terms.
VR is one of the most niche forms of entertainment for several reasons. Pricey and it's not exactly super casual in terms of how the content is consumed.
Then there's something that was mentioned in one of the other threads: HL:Alyx's world and trappings are more known entities in contrast of the jump from HL and Black Mesa to HL2 and City 17 with the Combine. The risk is in the game design/interaction, not so much in the narrative/art direction/setting, which is much more of an evolution and continuation of the things Half-Life 2 showed people 16 years ago. Yes they are in VR. Yes that alone is exciting. But it's still familiar territory in terms of tropes/props/world.
So $240(feel like I'm being generous) and how much more for a PC to run it?
And that's assuming I can even stomach the VR after such a tidy investment.
The VR headsets that have been constantly selling out since this game's announcement beg to differ. As someone who was never a big Half-Life fan i personally don't get it but there definitely is a lot of interest. As someone who works for a company looking to acquire more VR headsets I've been tracking products like the Quest & Rift S. The moment either headset is in stock somewhere they immediately sell out and it's been that way only since the announcement of Half-Life Alyx.
You didn't mention that Apex is clearly a superior shooter in every way and that all HL fans should just play the obviously better game instead ;-)
I have 0 trust in Valve to make good games anymore.
I cared less and less for Valve over the years, but I care even less now because that this game is VR.
I feel like they would have had more of a chance regaining a place among top developers if they would have re-entered the arena with a non VR game. I'm not buying into the whole VR thing just to check their game out which by the looks of it seems like a mashup of Portal and Half Life.
Now if From or Naughty Dog would make a new VR exclusive game that would make things totally different. I trust them to make something compelling and Valve have just lost my trust by just not being there for 9 years.
I cared less and less for Valve over the years, but I care even less now because that this game is VR.
I feel like they would have had more of a chance regaining a place among top developers if they would have re-entered the arena with a non VR game. I'm not buying into the whole VR thing just to check their game out which by the looks of it seems like a mashup of Portal and Half Life.
Now if From or Naughty Dog would make a new VR exclusive game that would make things totally different. I trust them to make something compelling and Valve have just lost my trust by just not being there for 9 years.
They've cut off their screenshot so can't tell what they're searching for but the graph they're using from 2007 looks more like the search term results I'm seeing than the Half-life (franchise) compared to Halo (franchise).
I am one of those people that don't care, I guess. Sorry, but I am not buying another plastic box to be able to play a game.
More power to Valve for doing what they want to do, but I would have been infinitely more interested if there was a non-VR version.
More power to Valve for doing what they want to do, but I would have been infinitely more interested if there was a non-VR version.
From made a interesting VR exclusive for PSVR. No one bought it lol.
No idea who Maxmillan is? Sorry. But yes it's going to be a difficult sell to all but those already invested in VR, like any VR game. But certainly VR desperately needs a big AAA killer app to increase interest, and this should be it. We'll see.
after that long ass period with no new games, it will take a long time to rebuild interest. the first comeback game being VR-only makes things harder.
if things stay flat when the actual Half Life 3 is announced then we can say the series is dead.
if things stay flat when the actual Half Life 3 is announced then we can say the series is dead.
Hey now, Apex is a great Source Engine shooter! Lol.
Id like to play Alyx at some point, but I think Im just going to play the waiting game. Both because I have to due to personal circumstances and because I think it just might be a decent idea to let VR mature even more. Would like for prices to come down more, tech to still improve, and wireless solutions to improve too. Idk how long I'll be waiting though and if by the time I feel like committing, HL:A will be usurped and no longer have quite the same wow factor.
Im afraid that I might wind up doing like Ive done with Resident Evil 7 in that I'll wait so long I'll just naturally lose interest...
For Valve not to have made good games in the last 9 years, they do have 2 of the tier 1 e-sport games that were developed in the last 9 years.
Apex is not Source. Edit: I am wrong huh, with all those modifications it really didnt feel like Source lol.
The game is VR, the vast majority of gamers don't care about that. The game doesn't even exist for me, I just watched the trailer twice and left without any hype.
The onus is on Valve to convince people that their return to game development is worth any attention.
They have a lot to prove before people are going to be interested again.
They have a lot to prove before people are going to be interested again.
Ya, that's the one. Heard it was decent but people made a big deal about it because of a Bloodborne easter egg.
Didn't hear much from it post release.
Yeah Titanfall and Apex run on a heavily modified Source. It's part of what makes them so fun I think and gives them their physicality and sense of presence. And for Apex, it's really impressive in terms of the game's scope.
The sense of presence/physical embodiment is definitely one of the things most exciting about this new Half-Life.
It wasn't great hence the not so good sales.
Google trends is one type of data, but it is not conclusive nor is it significant. I wish ppl wouldn't just trot it out like the last word.