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Richiek

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Nov 2, 2017
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The owner of the NoFap trademark and website, Alexander Rhodes, is suing a neuroscientist for defamation, claiming that she has made "numerous false and defamatory statements" about him and his work.
Rhodes founded NoFap in 2011 after—as he tells it in the lawsuit—a lifelong addiction to porn beginning at age 11. His work, put simply, is to help men resist jerking off. The tenets of the NoFap website state that it's merely trying to help people break porn addiction by abstaining from masturbating. The website is careful to claim that it's just a website, that it's not a movement, even though it was spawned from an associated subreddit with 515,000 subscribers and a Twitter account with more than 19,000 followers.

NoFap is most commonly associated with #NoNutNovember, an online challenge in which men try not to masturbate or otherwise orgasm for a month. As with many male-focused online communities, there are parts of the community that are focused on men's rights, are misogynistic, and that have harassed people. A 2018 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Sexualities found that members of NoFap online communities don't see women in porn as "real women," and that "real sex" is seen through the predominately male, heterosexual worldview of its members.

Nicole Prause, a neuroscientist who studies sexual science through a neuroscience and physiology lens, has researched so-called "porn addiction" and found no scientific basis for it. "These online communities have whipped themselves into a frenzy when in the past men wouldn't have been concerned," Prause told the Guardian in 2016. "Then the next time they go to have sex they are causing themselves more distress."

Prause has said publicly that she is regularly harassed by NoFap followers, and in posts in the last few days, she's claimed that harassment and death threats from Rhodes' fans have escalated to the point that the FBI and local law enforcement are involved.

What a surprise, masturbation is a normal part of human sexuality.

And also what a surprise that these MRA's would harass a woman.
 

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
16,211
I'm not surprised something like NoFap exists. What surprises me is it has fans/followers to this degree? Then again I probably really shouldn't be.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not just fine, it's healthy.

Folks should really read the article. It's eye opening.
 

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
8,255
If you read stuff like nofap or pornfree and the like on reddit, it quickly takes on a cult mentality.

By all means get you vices under control and lead a balanced life style.

Porn and sex addiction are no joke, but it's not some evil curse
 

AlexBasch

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Oct 27, 2017
7,307
I'm not surprised something like NoFap exists. What surprises me is it has fans/followers to this degree? Then again I probably really shouldn't be.
Yeah, I thought it was just folks who wanted to avoid doing it...which is weird but you do your own thing I guess, but how the fuck did that jump to harassing women, men's rights and other stupid bullshit from cis men. :/
 

Serif

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Oct 27, 2017
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Prause has said publicly that she is regularly harassed by NoFap followers, and in posts in the last few days, she's claimed that harassment and death threats from Rhodes' fans have escalated to the point that the FBI and local law enforcement are involved.

Clearly this NoFap shit ain't working, then. I thought the point of these online communities was to have support groups and discuss methods of self-control and self-improvement, not to form some kind of cult.
 

AnansiThePersona

Started a revolution but the mic was unplugged
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Oct 27, 2017
15,682
Ignore his lies and keep eating your corn flakes, homies. We will last the rest of November.
 

Failburger

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Dec 3, 2018
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What's up with the need of people to control others sexual desires?

You nut too much!
You nut not enough!
You nut with not enough people!
You should nut only to one person once!

Jesus, get off my nuts
 

Deleted member 18360

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not opposed to celibacy/brahmacarya/whatever and I'm sure any sort of activity that produces a dopamine hit can be habit forming, and porn is a supernormal sexual stimuli, but idk why these NoFap people have to be so implausibly dogmatic/culty about it.
 

Deleted member 4367

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Oct 25, 2017
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Death grip always seemed like the bigger problem for a lot of these guys experiencing masturbation related erectile dysfunction.
 

Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
17,604
Nicole Prause, a neuroscientist who studies sexual science through a neuroscience and physiology lens, has researched so-called "porn addiction" and found no scientific basis for it. "These online communities have whipped themselves into a frenzy when in the past men wouldn't have been concerned,"

But porn, especially internet porn, is a relatively newer phenomenon.

Guys can see way more material with far greater ease today than ever before and for some it IS an addiction.

Wait so the guys who wilfully prevent themselves from having relationships and actual sex ALSO abstain from wanking.

Oh my.

Why?

Because some are literally spending all their free time looking at porn or wanking and it's making them ashamed to the point that approaching a woman is simply unthinkable.
 

Akumatica

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Oct 25, 2017
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Kellogg was fucked in the head-
"While cereals and yogurt enemas might have kept most people in line, Kellogg also supported more extreme measures (read: stuff that would get your medical license revoked today and lead to many, many lawsuits) for people with particularly nasty masturbation habits. For boys, he suggested threading silver wire through the foreskin to prevent erections and cause irritation. For girls, he advocated, and sometimes employed, an application of carbolic acid to the clitoris to burn it and discourage touching it."

 

Johnny Blaze

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Oct 29, 2017
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But porn, especially internet porn, is a relatively newer phenomenon.

Guys can see way more material with far great ease today than ever before and for some it IS an addiction.



Because some are literally spending all their free time looking at porn or wanking and it's making them ashamed to the point that approaching a woman is simply unthinkable.
I had phases where I have watched way too much porn and went deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole because shit desensitises quickly and then regular sex seems like an impossible task which sucks.

So for some, less fapping would be a good idea.

LessFap instead of NoFap.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The NoFap community really ia a strange bunch.

Going on the subreddit half of them seem to legitimately believe that stopping gives you super powers, it's literally the episode of Seinfeld when George stops having sex lol
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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Kellogg was fucked in the head-
"While cereals and yogurt enemas might have kept most people in line, Kellogg also supported more extreme measures (read: stuff that would get your medical license revoked today and lead to many, many lawsuits) for people with particularly nasty masturbation habits. For boys, he suggested threading silver wire through the foreskin to prevent erections and cause irritation. For girls, he advocated, and sometimes employed, an application of carbolic acid to the clitoris to burn it and discourage touching it."

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Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had phases where I have watched way too much porn and went deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole because shit desensitises quickly and then regular sex seems like an impossible task which sucks.

So for some, less fapping would be a good idea.

LessFap instead of NoFap.

Exactly, these guys get to a point where they are spending hours at a time, every day, trying to get the same unachieveable high.

I mean we know of relationships that have ended because a guy kept looking at porn so I think this scientist is way off in thinking porn addiction isn't real.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Toronto, ON
A) Masturbation is a completely normal and healthy activity, and from what I understand, it's a good idea for men to do it regularly to regenerate their sperm cells.

B) I don't believe that porn addiction is just a "so-called" thing - it's a real issue and part of sex addiction. I don't know this scientist's specific findings, but saying porn addiction isn't real sounds questionable.
 

Juna

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Nov 26, 2017
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Sounds like this one here is the actual problem these people are having:
A 2018 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Sexualities found that members of NoFap online communities don't see women in porn as "real women," and that "real sex" is seen through the predominately male, heterosexual worldview of its members.
 

Juna

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Nov 26, 2017
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A) Masturbation is a completely normal and healthy activity, and from what I understand, it's a good idea for men to do it regularly to regenerate their sperm cells.
That's not how this works. Sperms cells get absorbed on their own just fine. They don't grow stale or accumulate until your balls burst.
Which I guess is one of the other important reasons for this. Lack of sex education.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Toronto, ON
That's not how this works. Sperms cells get absorbed on their own just fine. They don't grow stale or accumulate until your balls burst.
Which I guess is one of the other important reasons for this. Lack of sex education.

According to my wife, who is a microbiologist, former professor of biology and senior scientist at her biotech firm, it's healthy to regularly regenerate your sperm and it has an impact on a man's ability to procreate. Every physician I've spoken to has said the same. I never said anything about accumulating until your balls burst.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Whats the overlap between nofap, incels, and hate groups?
 

Johnny Blaze

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Oct 29, 2017
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Exactly, these guys get to a point where they are spending hours at a time, every day, trying to get the same unachieveable high.

I mean we know of relationships that have ended because a guy kept looking at porn so I think this scientist is way off in thinking porn addiction isn't real.
Ya, I have been there. I mean it didn't destroy any relationships but the sex was not enjoyable which puts a strain on a relationship for sure.

So I am surprised scientists can't find any links. I think porn absolutely can desensitise people to the point that you can't get off to regular real sex, because your mind is programmed to "porn-sex" and your specific hand strokes etc etc. I have been there.

People then try and go look for the opposite extreme, which is basically how nofap came to be I guess.
 

Aztechnology

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Oct 25, 2017
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All jokes aside I think porn addiction is a very real thing. I'm not sure why she's saying there's no basis for it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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According to my wife, who is a microbiologist, former professor of biology and senior scientist at her biotech firm, it's healthy to regularly regenerate your sperm and it has an impact on a man's ability to procreate. Every physician I've spoken to has said the same. I never said anything about accumulating until your balls burst.
You seem to think sperm doesn't regenerate unless you jack off