No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time
Singapore’s approval of chicken cells grown in bioreactors is seen as landmark moment across industry
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No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time
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That's awesome! It would be interesting to see how things play out once production ramps up and they are able to get the price below what it is for slaughtered animals
This is what I've been waiting for. Also curious to see how this will affect the concept of vegetarianism if it takes off. Will there be a new terminology for people who eat synthetic meat but not animal meat?
I know a lot of people (maybe not here, but in the general public) see lab-grown meat as "unnatural" and disgusting, but I hope this becomes a trend soon. It would be wonderful to eat something with the texture of meat that doesn't A: harm any animals or B: contribute in a very direct way to carbon emissions.
EDIT: If indeed this cultured meat helps to reduce carbon emissions, of course.
EDIT: If indeed this cultured meat helps to reduce carbon emissions, of course.
Great. I'm not expecting mainstream, cost effective stuff for many years to come but I'd be happy to eventually transition to this sort of thing.
It has major implications on agriculture, of course. Not looking forward to the political fighting over this.
It has major implications on agriculture, of course. Not looking forward to the political fighting over this.
If it's not cost effective, then it's not going to solve anything.
Prepared to read lots of "no animals were harmed in the making of this _____" jokes in ledes and such over the next five years
If they can win the price war with this thing, the usual complaints about it will fall by the wayside as cost-effectiveness wins.
Just like Americans that resent Chinese manufacturing, but are unwilling to pay higher prices for Made In America products compared to the cheaper priced Chinese stuff.
Just like Americans that resent Chinese manufacturing, but are unwilling to pay higher prices for Made In America products compared to the cheaper priced Chinese stuff.
Probably already template articles made with that very line.
This could potentially be very awesome, but also sketchy if the "medium" ends up being animal based.
It's not like they're eating anywhere close to the advertised "meat" with the average mass produced product as it is.
There's a reason chicken nuggets are first here, it's because they're ground up so getting structure right is kind of irrelevant as long as the general ratios of cell types are on point. Making something with correct structure isn't impossible and we are making advances in that regard, but it's way more difficult and complicated
I can't see a reason why anyone would ever use animal based culture medium if plant based is an option given that plants are inherently going to be a way cheaper source of nutrients by default
Absolutely, but every time I bring up "artificial" meat with the people around me they don't just protest against it, they seem to get mad at the very idea of it, like the people making the stuff are all Frankensteins upsetting the natural order of things, haha. It's kind of weird how upset they seem to get. I know it's anecdotal, but a lot of the people interviewed about it on the news seem to react the same way.
I hope some of the recent acceptance of products like Beyond Meat will loosen some people's opinions on artificial meat as well.
So assuming everything works well with and it is cheaper, more carbon efficient, and as tasty/nutritious/safe as conventional meat, won't this immediately make the gigantic animal-raising industry obsolete? There would be a few artisanal producers left but there would be millions of people who would have to be retrained. You have to consider both the ranchers/meatpacking plant employees as well as the farmers growing the grain that feeds the animals.
It is one thing to consider before this gets final regulatory approval in any country that has a sizable agricultural industry.
It is one thing to consider before this gets final regulatory approval in any country that has a sizable agricultural industry.
Im wondering if this can be used on fish/shellfish for those that have allergies
I find it strange that we could define a specific taste profile of beef. I doubt it's as easy as the flavour chemicals they use with crisps/chips.
I mean we're still a long way of being able to do this with any form of meat that requires structure like a steak or a chicken wing. So ideally we would begin finding ways to wind down those industries now and begin funding transition programs ahead of time so that this won't be an issue by the time the technology is perfectly ready. I mean mind you this almost certainly won't happen because people hate planning ahead, but we do have plenty of time now. Plenty of industries have died in the past too, we shouldn't let that in and of itself deny progress especially when ending the industry would be a huge boon for stuff like climate change
Think bigger.
chicken that tastes like beef. Or fish that taste like pork. You can design the meat to have any flavor you want. Maybe even mixed meat hybrids. Shrimp/chicken.
My friend makes vegan 'meat' and calls it dinosaur meat as a way of satirizing the "duhh there's no such thing as vegan meat" brigade
Unless the allergy is tied more to the food the shellfish have been eating, this isn't going to help with something like that at all even in a perfect version of the technology. The cells produced are still going to be identical to the animal they were cultured from, so the proteins that cause the allergy aren't going to disappear. SOmething like fine tuning and controlling the marbling on a steak might be possible with advanced culturing techniques, but unless you're using genetically modified shellfish or something you aren't changing the chemical composition of the meat on a protein level
Has there been any discussion on if different religions can eat nokill animal protein/plant protein shellfish and bacon products.
What are vegan stances on nokill/plant protein products?
No this isn't how it works. Lab grown meat is basically another application of the same tissue engineering techniques that we'd use for regenerative medicine, except instead of using cultured cells to regrow a human heart or something like that you're using them to make a steak. The cells are still genetically identical to the donor so you aren't going to get a product that's substantially different from the original beyond toying with the exact structure. So stuff like marbling which is based on the arrangement of fat and muscle cells would be possible, but cow cells are still going to produce beef and it's still going to taste like beef by the nature of the tech
I love it. I'm sure this is the future of meat production, happy to see it's happening already. Hopefully they figure out how to do this efficiently and harmlessly with pig or cow fat cells to help give other plant-based meats like Impossible and Beyond a bit of an extra authentic flavor.
Chicken cells grown in a bioreactor filled with bovine foetal blood serum.
while I am on board with lab grown meat... do they have to make it sound so fucking dystopian sci-fi?
while I am on board with lab grown meat... do they have to make it sound so fucking dystopian sci-fi?
No idea. I'm aware of the science behind this stuff even if I'm not an expert perse, but stuff like religious questions is completely outside my understanding and I kind of doubt any sort of consensus exists if there's even been a discussion on the issue at all in those communities. And the vegan one is even harder since the reasons people go Vegan are numerous and personal so it'll come down to the individuals judgement
