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Nioh: Complete Edition PC performance thread

disgraciau

disgraciau

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hello guys, I'm having a hard time keeping steady 60 FPS with this game.

My rig:

Windows 10 Pro x64
Ryzen R5 1600 3.8 Ghz OC
Corsair Vengeance 2x8 GB DDR4 2667 Mhz
Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce 8 GB GDDR5 with latest drivers.

The game is always at 50-57 FPS at the first level after intro and tutorial. It barely reaches 60 FPS. I tried disabling motion blur, reflections, AO, even shadows.

Tried at 1080p and even 900p, fullscreen, borderless, and tried to force off Vsync on nvidia control panel, even i have plugged my xbone controller with its USB cable instead of using it wireless but it doesn't matter, it always stays at 50-57 FPS max, and it stutters like crazy

Is that normal with my rig? Did I miss something that can improve performance/stability?

Thanks!
 
disgraciau

disgraciau

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ibiza, Balearic Islands, Spain
Here's a screenshot with MSI Afterburner:

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A funny thing: When I approach to one of the red swords (phantom enemies or something like that) when its interface shows up, my FPS decrease even more.
 
medyej

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Oct 26, 2017
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Glad I held off on really getting into this on launch because they have really done some good work on it. For all the flak they got about not including m/kb controls, they really put in work to the ones they have patched in. The mouse feels good and the keyboard has absurd levels of customization which is perfect. Multiple bindings are allowed for certain functions, modifier keys, it's got it all. I have to give my props for that because I'm really enjoying it now using them.
 

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KainXVIII said:
Definitely not normal, i can get mostly steady 60 fps with everything on max and 1080p with my gtx 970.
Shadows was fixed in latest patch.
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Yeah that's really weird. My 980ti powers through 1440p without full GPU utilization. A 1070 should be giving dude zero problems.

Oh and on stuttering: I notice it a lot more in windowed mode than exclusive fullscreen.
 
disgraciau

disgraciau

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Looks like i fixed the problem guys: it was me, definitively.

I uninstalled the drivers with DDU and turned off my computer. Then I opened the case and checked the graphics card was well connected (i moved it a bit), then I switched the 8-pin connector (my PSU has two). I turned on my computer, installed latest drivers, but now unmarking a couple of options related with "3D" (i don't remember the names, i just installed the mandatory graphic drivers and HD Audio, thatĀ“s it).

Right after finishing the setup i tested NiOh and ta-da! Rock-solid 60 FPS with everything to the max. I don't know if the guilty was the "3D" stuff or a faulty 8-pin connector, but the important is that finally I can play NiOh just fine... and Forza Horizon 3, which gave me FPS slowdowns each 3-4 seconds. And right now i'm downloading Wolfenstein II which gave me big performance problems before.

Anyway, going back to NiOh. Happy new year everyone!
 
Black_Stride

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Oct 28, 2017
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disgraciau said:
Hello guys, I'm having a hard time keeping steady 60 FPS with this game.

My rig:

Windows 10 Pro x64
Ryzen R5 1600 3.8 Ghz OC
Corsair Vengeance 2x8 GB DDR4 2667 Mhz
Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce 8 GB GDDR5 with latest drivers.

The game is always at 50-57 FPS at the first level after intro and tutorial. It barely reaches 60 FPS. I tried disabling motion blur, reflections, AO, even shadows.

Tried at 1080p and even 900p, fullscreen, borderless, and tried to force off Vsync on nvidia control panel, even i have plugged my xbone controller with its USB cable instead of using it wireless but it doesn't matter, it always stays at 50-57 FPS max, and it stutters like crazy

Is that normal with my rig? Did I miss something that can improve performance/stability?

Thanks!
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A 1070 failing to 1080 this game?

Youve got a major problem somewhere.
Ive got a 1070 and it doesnt even bother turning on my exterior fans its so chilled.

Double check in steam that the game is updated.

P.S The tower of london had some weird issues with it....i dunno if that was fixed after updates but my launch version of Nioh would have random drops in the Tower....after the tower performance was not an issue.
 

francium87

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Oct 27, 2017
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Black_Stride said:
A 1070 failing to 1080 this game?

Youve got a major problem somewhere.
Ive got a 1070 and it doesnt even bother turning on my exterior fans its so chilled.

Double check in steam that the game is updated.

P.S The tower of london had some weird issues with it....i dunno if that was fixed after updates but my launch version of Nioh would have random drops in the Tower....after the tower performance was not an issue.
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my 1070 problem was even worse. whatever settings (resolution, window, extra toggles, etc) I try the steam fps counter never goes above 40. Other games I tried recently were all fine (Horizon 3, Gears, Wolf2).
 
disgraciau

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Black_Stride said:
A 1070 failing to 1080 this game?

Youve got a major problem somewhere.
Ive got a 1070 and it doesnt even bother turning on my exterior fans its so chilled.

Double check in steam that the game is updated.

P.S The tower of london had some weird issues with it....i dunno if that was fixed after updates but my launch version of Nioh would have random drops in the Tower....after the tower performance was not an issue.
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My problem was fixed. See above our posts :P
 
KainXVIII

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So, there no antialiasing at all, what's best solution to inject SMAA (or FXAA?)? Can Reshade inject SMAA but without touching UI?
 
KainXVIII

KainXVIII

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Oct 26, 2017
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Reshade works, but only with direct3d 9 dlls, strange!
So - SMAA + LumaSharpen is typical preset?
 
Leilu

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Jun 22, 2018
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Hi,
I am fond of this kind of games (Dark Souls, The Surge) but since I have a new monitor I can not play Nioh comfortably.
In 1080p, it was probably possible for me to maintain 60fps but in 3440x1440 it's impossible, even for my decent rig.
For exemple, in the third zone
the cave after the boat boss
, I sometimes have less than 30fps with my graphic card at 100% load.
Is this game so badly optimized ?

My rig:
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GTX1070
 

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Leilu said:
Hi,
I am fond of this kind of games (Dark Souls, The Surge) but since I have a new monitor I can not play Nioh comfortably.
In 1080p, it was probably possible for me to maintain 60fps but in 3440x1440 it's impossible, even for my decent rig.
For exemple, in the third zone
the cave after the boat boss
, I sometimes have less than 30fps with my graphic card at 100% load.
Is this game so badly optimized ?

My rig:
[email protected]
GTX1070
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My brother also had problems getting this game to run smoothly.

I'd actually recommend running the game at 1080p :(

It's also one of the best in the genre, especially the improvements it adds to basic combat.
 
Durante

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I played through the entire game in 3440x1440 on a 1080 (with a 5820k@4GHz), and while it wasn't always running at >60 FPS, I never had playability issues, so I don't think it dropped below 30. (This was on a 100 Hz monitor)
 
Kewlmyc

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So is it even possible to get 4K with rock solid 60fps? Was testing it out earlier in the starting level and it was around 45fps no matter what I did. I can do 1440p with a solid 60fps just fine, so I'm ultimately fine. I was just wondering.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti
16GB Ram
 

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Kewlmyc said:
So is it even possible to get 4K with rock solid 60fps? Was testing it out earlier in the starting level and it was around 45fps no matter what I did. I can do 1440p with a solid 60fps just fine, so I'm ultimately fine. I was just wondering.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti
16GB Ram
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Nope

Best I could get on a similar build was 1440p60
 
Arkanius

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Kewlmyc said:
So is it even possible to get 4K with rock solid 60fps? Was testing it out earlier in the starting level and it was around 45fps no matter what I did. I can do 1440p with a solid 60fps just fine, so I'm ultimately fine. I was just wondering.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti
16GB Ram
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Shadows are absolutely taxing (and don't even look that good).
Your best bet is to drop them to medium, but with a 980 Ti, I think you will have to satisfy yourself with 1440p
 
Pantaghana

Pantaghana

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Oct 26, 2017
1,221
Croatia
Can anyone help with performance issues I've been having?
My specs:
i5-4690k
GTX 970
8GB RAM
Win10

From what I've read here and elsewhere, I should be able to maintain 60fps at 1080p with the right settings, however at 1080p my framerate fluctuates 40-50fps, with occasional drops to below 30 at min settings.

I've already checked online for possible solutions but none of them worked so far.

Updated drivers, didn't work.

Completely removed drivers with DDU and did a fresh install, didn't work.

Some guides online mentioned changing settings in the Nvidia control panel, tried that, didn't work.

A setting in the control panel I've seen mentioned multiple times to select the "High Performance NVIDIA processor" - this is not available to me, I assume it is for laptops but I'm on a desktop.

And yes, I'm sure I'm using the GTX 970 and not the integrated CPU and I'm plugged into the GPU, other games like Warframe, DOOM, Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 run fine.

I even tried changing the gamepad because why the hell not, changed from a 360 pad to the Steam gamepad and still I have poor performance.

Anyone else have a better idea on how to fix this?
 
Alexx

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pantaghana said:
Can anyone help with performance issues I've been having?
My specs:
i5-4690k
GTX 970
8GB RAM
Win10

From what I've read here and elsewhere, I should be able to maintain 60fps at 1080p with the right settings, however at 1080p my framerate fluctuates 40-50fps, with occasional drops to below 30 at min settings.

I've already checked online for possible solutions but none of them worked so far.

Updated drivers, didn't work.

Completely removed drivers with DDU and did a fresh install, didn't work.

Some guides online mentioned changing settings in the Nvidia control panel, tried that, didn't work.

A setting in the control panel I've seen mentioned multiple times to select the "High Performance NVIDIA processor" - this is not available to me, I assume it is for laptops but I'm on a desktop.

And yes, I'm sure I'm using the GTX 970 and not the integrated CPU and I'm plugged into the GPU, other games like Warframe, DOOM, Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 run fine.

I even tried changing the gamepad because why the hell not, changed from a 360 pad to the Steam gamepad and still I have poor performance.

Anyone else have a better idea on how to fix this?
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I doubt it will help, but have you tried this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1195069538

Your performance seems to be in the same range of this benchmark so I doubt your performance is off.
https://gamegpu.com/rpg/рŠ¾Š»ŠµŠ²Ń‹Šµ/nioh-complete-edition-test-gpu-cpu
 
Pantaghana

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Oct 26, 2017
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Alexx said:
I doubt it will help, but have you tried this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1195069538
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That was one of the first things I tried.
Alexx said:
Your performance seems to be in the same range of this benchmark so I doubt your performance is off.
https://gamegpu.com/rpg/рŠ¾Š»ŠµŠ²Ń‹Šµ/nioh-complete-edition-test-gpu-cpu
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My russian isn't good enough to read the entire page, but I did play around with the graphs, not sure what good that is because I don't know for which graphics preset those stats are.

Currently I'm playing at the absolute minimum settings and performance is still terrible.
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this is what 45fps looks like for me.
Standing in front of a blank wall with absolutely nothing going on.
45fps on a GTX 970.

U WOT M8?
 
Alvis

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Can I expect 60 FPS at 1440p with this PC?
i7 6700k @4.4 GHz
GTX 1070
16 GB DDR4 RAM @2400 MHz

I'm willing to drop shadows a bit if necessary but dropping resolution would be the absolute last resort. Thanks!
 

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Pantaghana said:
That was one of the first things I tried.

My russian isn't good enough to read the entire page, but I did play around with the graphs, not sure what good that is because I don't know for which graphics preset those stats are.

Currently I'm playing at the absolute minimum settings and performance is still terrible.

this is what 45fps looks like for me.
Standing in front of a blank wall with absolutely nothing going on.
45fps on a GTX 970.

U WOT M8?
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The game is not very well optimized. In PS4 is 60fps at 720p, so you shouldn't expect much better on a 970.
 
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