Software is impacted by established userbase, there's just no way a fledgling 20m+ base can compete with a more mature and peaking 70m+ one.
I 100% agree it's not a fair battle. But it's why the Switch won't be dominating the market this year. Yes it should be the top selling console but the market involves more then just hardware and the software side of things this year will be heavily in the PS4's favour. Even in 2020 the ps4 should sell more software.
There is no offical announcement. So it's a rumor for now.
2020 I'm not sure. By that point Switch should have a big enough base (60m+) it might be more competitive on a mainstream scale. We'll also have to see how PS4's early post-cycle goes: if it thrives as a budget option like PS1/PS2 or falls off a cliff like PSP/PS3. Lots of variables up in the air and probably too many to be making any definitive statements imo.
That wasn't his point. There's no rumor of a more powerful Switch, just a rumor of a new model.
I know what the thread is about and I assessed the hardware issue. I then elaborated on my post and addressed the wider market this year. The ps4 may be outsold this year but it's position on the market will be solid.
The Switch is likely to outsell the PS4 for 2018 when it only had Smash and Pokemon at the end. The PS4 has already peaked and is in decline. Nothing will help it beat out the Switch for 2019, a new system that's only going to sell even better this year. The PS4 is too old and with a library too diverse for those games to help the PS4 sell better. That's just how consoles sell. They'll sell better and better till they peak and then sales begin to decline
The gap is small enough that the Switch could have closed it with December alone. It's pretty likely, according to Benji, that it outsold the PS4 and XB1 put together in December. Every other month the PS4 won wasn't by any significant margin whereas the Switch won December by a huge one
The PS4 is on paced to sell as much as PS2 software wise. It just has all the big games.
I suppose we'll just have to see then but it's not as if it's been selling poorly elsewhere. Not to mention, Nintendo projected a higher sales target for the Switch than Sony did for the PS4. I don't see why it'd be hard to believe, seeing as the PS4 has already peaked and is in decline whereas the Switch is only just starting to hit its stride. I mean, likewise, I might as well ask for proof that the PS4 outsold the Switch in 2018
But what did that have to do with hardware sales?
I know that. The person who you responded to responded to someone who brought up software sales in response to hardware sales, when the thread itself is about hardware sales. That's what he meant by a joke
Hey mat, do you think you were right about VR in US ?
I mean, both are going to be huge (TLOU2 much bigger than Death Stranding I think), but you are maybe underselling what Animal Crossing and a new generation Pokémon do for a system. While I think that there is a chance that TLOU2, if it blows up even bigger than I imagine (that is, over 30 million units sold on PS4), will keep the PS4 steady or slightly up (which I imagine would end up meaning around 18-19 million units), but I doubt that would be enough to beat what is expected to be Switch' best year of its life (and should be well over 20 million).
Not as funny as you thinking UK sales are indicating anything for thre global market.
While I think both games will sell extremely well, at that point I'm not sure anything besides a decent price drop can increase hardware sales that much tbh. On it's 7th year the PS4 will likely be close to it's saturation point + having to deal with the PS5 coming in + Switch at full speed.
Maybe, maybe, though I honestly thought that would have been the price point already and yet...here we are with the PS4 selling like hotcakes (still) at 299$/€.
I think also the digital is different. Doesn't Sony add all digital software and Nintendo only only the digital software with retail releases? I think I read that in the Media Create thread.
Correct. Nintendo doesn't report unit sales for digital-only software.
