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Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)
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1. Nintendo needed a console that could be sold for $200 before Pokemon and Animal Crossing come out.
2. But coming out with a model priced at $200 would have been perceived as a bigger price drop than the emergency price drop 3DS got, that forced Nintendo to come out with the ambassador program. And this at a time when Switch still sells super well without any real price drop.
3. The only way Nintendo could "get away" with a $100 price drop without killing Switch perceived value was remove the TV connection. Everything else removed is just icing on the cake and allowed them to drop the price from a profit point of view, but removing the TV connection is what allowed them to drop the price without OG Switch loosing its primary value proposition.
4. I think the choice Nintendo saw themselves as having was - Lite priced at $250, with TV connection intact, OR Lite priced at $200, without TV connection. They chose the latter for a multitude of reasons, and from a business point of view, I agree.
2. But coming out with a model priced at $200 would have been perceived as a bigger price drop than the emergency price drop 3DS got, that forced Nintendo to come out with the ambassador program. And this at a time when Switch still sells super well without any real price drop.
3. The only way Nintendo could "get away" with a $100 price drop without killing Switch perceived value was remove the TV connection. Everything else removed is just icing on the cake and allowed them to drop the price from a profit point of view, but removing the TV connection is what allowed them to drop the price without OG Switch loosing its primary value proposition.
4. I think the choice Nintendo saw themselves as having was - Lite priced at $250, with TV connection intact, OR Lite priced at $200, without TV connection. They chose the latter for a multitude of reasons, and from a business point of view, I agree.
Even if they have a second switch it's hardly seamless to swap a game and user and saves from one machine to another.
I'm a parent of a 10 year old who loves her 3ds and who basically stole my switch from me. I've been waiting for either a lite or a pro to get a second one, but I do think tv out is a huge deal for my daughter so I'll probably skip this. If I could seamlessly switch saves between consoles it wouldn't be that big of a deal but he lack of cloud saves on some games means that you can't easily switch back and forth u less I'm missing something.
You know it's the same to program software for the Switch and the Switch lite right?
Yep. If the 3hours vs. 4hours is accurate it's a 60% efficiency increase for the total system.
they are concentrating on one platform. This plays the same games as the OG switch. It's also a great time to release a handheld only version for a lower price since the traditional portable games of fire emblem, animal crossing, and Pokémon are launching. This is the space where Nintendo has their greatest success.
Well "12nm" for the mini has never been stated outside of rumors, and has been assigned all manner of thermal properties and improbable performance gains in those rumors, so
It was compatible in portable mode, though, because the JoyCons are always attached to it and can freely be detached. That isn't the case with the lite.
It's not that big of a deal but Super Mario Party is one of the bigger Switch games and it makes use of the JoyCons very well. The saving point is that JoyCons are still compatible with the Lite but then I wonder why this doesn't have a stand like the OG Switch.
Possibly. Along with no need to charge joycons battery and the removal of rumble, IR and the reduction in screen size while keeping same 720p resolution probably also played a part.
They play the same games. It's not the same as the Wii U + 3DS.
The stand on the OG Switch may as well not even be there because of how flimsy it is. There are charging stands and other solutions that do a much better job than the stand.
I guess it does add hurdles to game development. But rarely has the separation of switch controllers been a requirement to play a game so idk
are you somehow under the impression that this is getting different games?
The original Switch and this new Lite version are one "platform" with respect to software development. You know, like, most console revisions.
I am ever so slightly salty about the reduction in screen size and rumble.
Everything else is ace
Everything else is ace
Can you use two separate additional joy-cons to play mariokart split screen on a lite? Not saying this is optimal, just trying to get my head around it as it states you can't do table top, but can connect joycons
USB-C is not what enables video out. There are other internal components which handle switching from sending video to the screen to sending it over the video out (in this case over the USB-C line). Removing those components saves money allowing them to sell the switch cheaper. So no it's not free for them to have the docking functionality.
I played roughly 275hrs of my 310hrs of BOTW in handheld mode.
Most important question:
Can I log in my existing Switch account on Switch Lite and play the games I already own? Will I have to do an account transfer?
If I can't play my library on both my regular TV Switch and my Switch Lite without an account transfer then this is 100% worthless to me. On PS4 I can have my account on multiple devices at once.
Can I log in my existing Switch account on Switch Lite and play the games I already own? Will I have to do an account transfer?
If I can't play my library on both my regular TV Switch and my Switch Lite without an account transfer then this is 100% worthless to me. On PS4 I can have my account on multiple devices at once.
Probably they did the no table top because their is no stand built-in to the Lite.
Their is no issue with connecting Switch Pro Controller or extra joycons to the device.
I don't know, I love my vita and 3ds but I don't see a marker for it anymore. Smartphones took it over. Just to clarify, it will sell but no way as much as the normal switch imho.
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I figured the Switch Lite was going to happen eventually, but I had always thought it might be interesting if they just started offering a dockless $250 SKU of the original Switch while also dropping the price of the dock to $50, essentially giving a portable option with the cost to upgrade coming out the same as the standard SKU. But Switch Lite does a good job of offering a better value proposition to those just wanting a smaller, cheaper handheld, so it was probably the better choice anyway.
It worked on any sturdy surface, though, no matter how flimsy it might feel and stands aren't included in the Lite package.
You know what, I'm actually super excited about this, for another reason in particular. I think with this release, we'll see extra emphasis on making portable look and perform even better. That's probably wishful thinking on my part, but with a lot of future players only have portable mode, makes sense some extra dev time will be used to focus on improving that experience.
You can make one Switch your primary Switch while any other Switch you use that has your account will be non-primary.
You can do either cloud saves (if you have NSO) or do manual individual game save data transfer. Their is the option to do a full account. But that is not required to transfer games/save data.
The Switch Pro not coming this year makes sense. You already have the Switch Lite this year and don't want to overcrowd the market. Plus, the New 3DS came out about 4 years after the 3DS launch, so you want something closer to that, which gives you the final graphics boost before the Switch 2 comes out a few years later.
Tabletop Mode is the process of taking joycon off the switch, utilizing the kickstand and playing multiplayer with both joycon. That is obviously not possible here.
They may come up with a new term or maybe they just wont really dig into it as they are marketing this as a one player device that can connect wirelessly to other devices for multiplayer.
You can't use it in table-top mode without buying extras such as Joy-Cons and a stand. That's why they state it doesn't do table-top out of the box. But yes you can connect Joy-Cons up to play MK.
It isn't a bad decision, but you have to admit its a bit weird , Labo and 12 Switch were part of their strategy to attract the casual audience so the cheaper model not compatible with those games is a bit weird.
And then, i really dooubt the Switch would have been a big hit if not for its Docked TV play, its part of the appeal and brand, Switch is not just a handheld or a home console its an hybrid, now its expanding but the hybrid nature was key to its success
If the controllers being hardwired into the thing eliminates the abysmal Joy Con drift problem, that is perhaps the biggest selling point this thing could have for me.
Also, I'm usually not one to be concerned about specs, but do we know if the Lite is at least as powerful as the original Switch is in handheld mode?
Also, I'm usually not one to be concerned about specs, but do we know if the Lite is at least as powerful as the original Switch is in handheld mode?
The same exact set of features, except those that are the center of the platform like the ability to Switch or to use split controls?
Great for my other kids Have the original for playing on the t.v. Saves me some money at Christmas!!!
Nice, although cloud save is fucked for major games like Smash, Pokemon and Animal Crossing.
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