Yeah, and this is a Switch Lite, and it doesn't do most of the stuff that its inclusion in the Switch line insinuates.
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Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)
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Seems cool to have as an option and great for kids, though losing the docking ability makes it less appealing from a functionality standpoint. The pro model is gonna be the upgrade I'm looking for, so long as they redesign that eyesore of a bezel.
This is my obligatory comment lamenting that the Wii U didn't sell at least enough for that wireless streaming tech to be affordable enough to be used between this and whatever enhanced version they're working on
For example because the ventilation is handled differently and optimized for handheld use. If it had to handle TV mode as well, this would probably be obsolete and bring additional cost with it. Also different docks would have to be manufactured due to the Lite's smaller size etc.
While I am not without my own biases, because I am one of these people, I think others will be surprised how popular this ends up among people who already own a Switch. I am one of those people who always felt the base Switch was "too big for a handheld" and didn't have the battery power to sufficiently replace my 3DS or Vita, which I played a great deal. But this? This is perfect. This is what I've always wanted.
My Base Switch will stay docked permanently. My Switch Lite will become my primary system. I suppose it's true that it undermines the entire gimmick of the device, but for me the gimmick was never the biggest selling point in the first place.
Like Nintendo says:
I do believe it will be a popular and appealing second option, even for people who already own a Switch. But that's just how I feel about it. I was always a Vita guy.
"The Kids" are mostly playing on their parent's phone or tablet. "The Kids" don't care as much about TV play as you want them to.
The whole system sees a 38% decrease in power draw, so the only components they can really get better battery life out of is stuff like the SoC, Screen and RAM. overall some of these components are going to have to use even less than the 38% and I'd suggest the SoC is where they saved the most power, the 7.1 watt number I give is for the minimum brightness on the screen, which on the OG model, I'm estimating to be under a watt, so you can only save so much power draw there. The SoC uses somewhere around 4.5watts in the OG model, I'd have to guess that has been chopped in half here too, if the entire system is now only using around 4.5 watts.
It definitely look like it, I think we'll have to wait for more hands on impressions or a teardown. I think it will lack some of the cooling features that the Switch has like the big metal plate across the whole system.
They wouldn't make any money, they removed features for cost so they could still make money on a $200 sale.
I hadn't seen the BotW battery life info, thanks.
But still, 3.5 hours (or so) for a portable device is not much (imo). This clearly should have been the focus.
And sure, we can have a higher clock here (and I even think that's the case, as N would benefit from some HW revision), but not one that wouldn't be possible on the original switch with some overclocking
I think parents and non-gamers being told to "look at the back of the box to see if that game can be played in handheld mode" obviously will be.
Err, what exactly is your opinion based on? Cos there isn't a handheld device out there the size of the Switch that can play a game as demanding as BOTW for 4 hours. Just ask anyone who plays games on an iphone etc.
I've just read that it doesn't feature video out from Jeff Bakalar
Thanks for sharing.
Tried desktop site but I still can't find the specs.
I know there's already 37 pages of comments, but I think this is a great looking product, even though I won't be buying one due to it not connecting to the tv.
I don't know what the technical limitation was that prevented it from being dockable, but I feel like if they would've just made it able to connect to the tv it would've appealed to a much larger audience. I know I would've been a day 1 purchase if only that one additional feature was included.
I don't know what the technical limitation was that prevented it from being dockable, but I feel like if they would've just made it able to connect to the tv it would've appealed to a much larger audience. I know I would've been a day 1 purchase if only that one additional feature was included.
this is the one thing i miss. The clam shell ruled, however i dont know how you implement it with a single screen unit ,without adding extra bulk
The biggest feature they removed is a Tegra platform feature that they get 'for free'. They actively had to work to disable it.
You dishonor Funky Kong with your lack of faith in Banana Yellow.
finally the vita successor i always wanted. gonna be playing all my indies on this thing now. can't wait.
Does Nintendo's cloud save solution make that practical?
That's a good question that I do not presently know the answer to.
the point is to differentiate it from the original switch. you need it to be missing some features to ensure the original switch has its place in the market. if it was dockable, they'd probably unnecessarily cannibalize sales of the more expensive switch. now when people are considering buying a switch they need to decide if they care about dockability or not, and if they do, they must spring for the more expensive one instead of going with the lite.
it's all business, even if it would have cost them nothing to make the dock work for the lite, it might not be a good idea.
No-one will be doing that. It's not an issue.
Go have a bath and calm yourself down.
I dont think the video output option is still physically present in the hardware. The prolly saved a 50cents a unit taking it out or something nominal.
If not, every 3rd party dock that is not formfactor based would still work.
Releasing: September 20, 2019
Price: $199
Comes in three colors (Grey, Yellow, Turqoise)
Does not have detachable JoyCons (though JoyCons can be paired), can't be docked to the TV, no HD rumble
Has D-Pad!
Full press release:
Full System Comparisons:
Compare - Nintendo Switch - Nintendo - Official Site
Compare technical specs and more features of the Nintendo Switch™ – OLED Model, Nintendo Switch, and Nintendo Switch Lite systems.www.nintendo.com
I'm proud of sending this to my annoying friend who always says PS4 is better than Nintendo Switch just bc it's cheaper (wtf)
I can get my son his own Switch, he only uses mine portable, he's going to be able to use it for 20-30% longer due to the better battery life, it's more robust and to boot, it's also smaller and lighter and will fit him better.
So no, it's not a terrible product. Look outside of your own bubble and see that just because it isnt for you doesnt make it a terrible product. It's not for me either since I use the hybrid aspect a lot but there's definately a good size market for this device and we're going to add one to our household since it's a good product for my son.
They shoulddve just used ""less" instead of "lite". Would sound much better and make more sense.
Switch Less.
I mean, Nintendo dropped the price on 2DS a about a year and a half into its life. Then again less than a year later. It went from $129.99 to $79.99.
This device, although more expensive than a 2DS, is going to be the 2DS of the Switch family.
It's going to be for families who want to buy a gaming system for their kid but don't want to shell out hundreds of dollars for one. Especially in the wake of next gen consoles.
Since the original Game Boy, Nintendo has always sought to have the cheapest possible console on the market through their handheld line.
I wonder what happens on this revision of the Switch if you run a USB C cable from the bottom of the current dock to the Switch Lite. That's how I connect the current Switch to the TV without ever having to dock it. I imagine they simply disabled the ability to output to TV on the Lite. Also need to know if the screen is still cheap plastic or gorilla glass.
They'd be making the original switch obsolete by selling a $100 cheaper version that does the same thing. Also you dont know if it uses the same chipset or not.
Maybe get out of this thread if you don't like my opinion? Or at least start following the actual posting rules of this forum?
I've never used my switch on the tv, I might sell it and just get this if the build quality passes muster.
For me it's that I don't want the kids breaking my Switch when out and about. But for them still to have the option to play on a big screen with sound system running at full pelt. 😂
The TV option was removed because :
- they don't have to pack in a dock that way
- the battery size was reduced, which means it's heating less in portable mode (which was the point) and would have been heating much more in docked mode (to the point of potentially being dangerous for the internals)
- that's not the point of this device
- they don't have to pack in a dock that way
- the battery size was reduced, which means it's heating less in portable mode (which was the point) and would have been heating much more in docked mode (to the point of potentially being dangerous for the internals)
- that's not the point of this device