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weebro

Banned
Nov 7, 2018
1,191
If Nintendo know what is good for them, they should do like Microsoft did with the RROD and offer free JoyCon fixing/replacement for everyone.

But more importantly: They should redesign the JoyCons so they don't suffer from that problem to begin with, so that issued replacements will be safe from it.


Wait, what? Iwata was in charge when they designed the Switch.

Iwata was probably around for the conceptual and prototyping phase, not the final hardware design. I doubt they had the finalized production plans in place almost 2 years before the Switch launched.



You're saying that the current Nintendo president is a numbers first president? rofl

That's exactly what I'm saying, go look up what his positions were before he was promoted to president.
 

Jahranimo

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,022
The drifting is apparently caused by a flaw in the way the joy-con registers movement, it has nothing to do with noisy communication with the console so Lite models will have this issue as well if Nintendo hasn't done anything about it for the Lite.
Hmm.....oof if they haven't addressed it in the Lite. Gonna be a long two months until we see.
 

Instro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,039
This is what happens when you go from a game developer/gamers first president to an accountant/spreadsheets and numbers first president.
This is dumb. Iwata oversaw numerous hardware flaws and defects, while also approving of Nintendo's ongoing "panel lottery" policy on their handhelds.
 

free_bubble

Member
Oct 27, 2017
594
Good. I've literally had to stop playing handheld and pull out a Pro controller lately. That's unacceptable.
 

JuiceMan_V

Banned
Apr 17, 2019
161
Based on what exactly?

My own experiebnce.

I have two sets of Joycons and I never had drifting issues.

Even still, for those that do, I think a class action investigation seems to be going overboard given the lack of outrage over tons of faulty videogame accessories that never get even half the outrage like Joycons are getting.

I had 3 DS3's all go haywire and there weren't any investigations about it in sight and it was a known problem for the PS3.
 

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,524
Ibis Island
This will either prove Nintendo is right for ignoring the issue or show there is an actionable design defect.

Either way it's good for consumers and maybe the discussion can be more.focused rather than weekly threads on Reddit about it and the same back and forth.

My personal feeling is this won't go to court

Why did you post the exact same post twice?
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,686
My own experiebnce.

I have two sets of Joycons and I never had drifting issues.

Even still, for those that do, I think a class action investigation seems to be going overboard given the lack of outrage over tons of faulty videogame accessories that never get even half the outrage like Joycons are getting.

I had 3 DS3's all go haywire and there weren't any investigations about it in sight and it was a known problem for the PS3.
These are very weak arguments. Individual experience means nothing and is not a basis for a valid opinion.
Furthermore it's up to the lawyers and/or court to decide if this is worth a lawsuit.
It just sounds like you're saying "suck it up like I did".
 

Instro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,039
My own experiebnce.

I have two sets of Joycons and I never had drifting issues.

Even still, for those that do, I think a class action investigation seems to be going overboard given the lack of outrage over tons of faulty videogame accessories that never get even half the outrage like Joycons are getting.

I had 3 DS3's all go haywire and there weren't any investigations about it in sight and it was a known problem for the PS3.
Who cares? Even if that were true, then you should be supporting the idea of the buck finally stopping with someone, whether it's Nintendo or not. All of these companies have delivered defective hardware over the years, and often have not bothered to address the issues. Nintendo gets the be a scapegoat that puts them all on notice, and deservedly so for their lack of response to this, or the Pro Controller d-pad, or any of the other issues present within the Switch.
 

JuiceMan_V

Banned
Apr 17, 2019
161
Your personal experience means nothing

Ummm...yes it does, just like your experience with joycons are.

WTF are you talking about?

When a supposed investigation is done, and the results come out that the Joycon issue isn't as widespread as the outrage, what will you say then?

Not saying that that would be the outcome, but an individual's experience with joycons make up the bulk of the investigation.
 

RM8

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,906
JP
People love to hate on the circle pads but my launch 3DS has never had any drifting issues, unlike my expensive ass joycons.
 

Ometeotl

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
995
Wish people were this riled up when DS4 controllers were falling apart, maybe they'd have better build quality by now.
 

Chiramii

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,666
Norway
Have had my switch since May 2017 but so far so good. Just waiting for it to happen though, as it seems to be a widespread problem.
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,686
Ummm...yes it does, just like your experience with joycons are.

WTF are you talking about?

When a supposed investigation is done, and the results come out that the Joycon issue isn't as widespread as the outrage, what will you say then?

Not saying that that would be the outcome, but an individual's experience with joycons make up the bulk of the investigation.
I will accept that I lucked out and take the L if that's the outcome. What else would I do? That's precisely why only widespread problems rather than individual ones make a class action lawsuit valid.

Edit: to be clear since it looks like you missed my edit, my personal experience is meaningless too. Only large numbers of experiences are relevant.
 

AtomicShroom

Tools & Automation
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
3,079
When a supposed investigation is done, and the results come out that the Joycon issue isn't as widespread as the outrage, what will you say then?

Not saying that that would be the outcome, but an individual's experience with joycons make up the bulk of the investigation.

Oh please. The entire internet, this forum included, has been on fire about JoyCon drift issues for a good while now. This is Xbox 360 RROD levels of bad. And during RROD debacle back then there were also detractors like you claiming it was all just circumstancial. Those detractors even had ammo in the form of MS outputting a public statement claiming it was just a tiny percentage, well within expected values. Then the bomb blew up. We're witnessing the same thing, again.
 

cowbanana

Member
Feb 2, 2018
13,724
a Socialist Utopia
I wish there was something going in the EU as well. Maybe it's time to contact local consumer protection - there's a ton of online content to link to, ranging from pictures of the actual defect to all the reports of drifting. Class actions aren't as used here, but knowingly selling faulty products, which there's no doubt Nintendo is currently doing, can result in a good walloping from authorities in terms of fines.
 

Rogue Agent

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,529
This is good. It's nice to hear that this thing is finally getting started and hopefully it encourages Nintendo to do something about this issue.
 

SuperSah

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,079
Good.

Nintendo needs to be held accountable for purposefully selling defective products.
 

Doskoi Panda

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,977
My own experiebnce.

I have two sets of Joycons and I never had drifting issues.
Ive had 7 individual drifting Joycon so I guess my anecdote outweighs yours, huh. Not that yours meant much to begin with. PS3 controller had problems but they obviously weren't as widespread as this issue, this on the other hand has come up as a discussion topic on online gaming sites with increasing and downright shocking regularity. This shit is real, and you jumping to defend Nintendo on it is such a corny look.
2 years. 7. Busted. Controllers. 'Overblown, y'all exaggerating'. FOH, lmaooooool
 
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Kitten Mittens

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Dec 11, 2018
2,368
Add the lame broken dpad on the Pro controller to the Class Action. Anything done to embarrass or shame Nintendo into actually fixing their lame controller designs is fine by me. Drag them hard and make them pay.
 

SasaBassa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,094
Not about to cry for a huge company that is knowingly selling flawed devices and not owning it, even if other companies do the same. They've had plenty of time to address it so if this gets the job done then good

Not the biggest thing in the world but it's your money, you deserve value for it (without going the extra gamer mile of harassment)
 

Rockets

Member
Sep 12, 2018
3,011
Why has this become a big issue recently? Did peoples joycons just start fucking up or did Nintendo release a software update that fucked it up? My joycons have been drifting since launch.
 

Inquisitive_Ghost

Cranky Ghost Pokemon
Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,127
Oh fuck those. Though at least it was easier to fix those than the Switch drifting.
OMG I forgot about this. I had a fucked 3DS shoulder button, too. I managed to fix it, though.
Why has this become a big issue recently? Did peoples joycons just start fucking up or did Nintendo release a software update that fucked it up? My joycons have been drifting since launch.
This is just my estimate, but it's probably becoming more common because the console has been out longer. The hardware flaw that causes the drift can take time to manifest.
 

Owlet

Owl Enthusiast
Verified
May 30, 2018
1,932
London, UK
I don't care what you were expecting. but I think the issue is overblown.

And yes, I saw zero outrage or calls for an investigation over malfunctioning DS3's.
My Switch is four months old and theres already a minor drift on the left Joycon.

Theres something seriously wrong with the design they're using.
 

Terraforce

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
18,917
My own experiebnce.

I have two sets of Joycons and I never had drifting issues.

Even still, for those that do, I think a class action investigation seems to be going overboard given the lack of outrage over tons of faulty videogame accessories that never get even half the outrage like Joycons are getting.

I had 3 DS3's all go haywire and there weren't any investigations about it in sight and it was a known problem for the PS3.
How long have you had the Switch? I've had four joycon since launch day and only just experienced drift last week. So it can take time, but if you play your Switch a lot it seems almost inevitable.

Wish people were this riled up when DS4 controllers were falling apart, maybe they'd have better build quality by now.
...yeah almost like they should fix that... oh wait, it was a big stink so they DID already fix it years ago
 
As much as I love the switch. I can't forgive the god awful quality of the joycons and how expensive they are compared to PS4/Xbox controllers.

In countries like Pakistan / India where Nintendo isn't there, we have to pay the price of 2 PS4 controllers for 1 pair of joycons.

I had the same PS3 controller through 8 years, never a fault. And same for my PS4 controller. But my joycon drifting needs to be fixed every other week.
 

HardRojo

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,143
Peru
Not expecting much to come from the class action investigation itself, but I'm down for putting the pressure on Nintendo to improve their terrible quality controllers. Man, if only they fixed a few of the problems the Joycons would be terrific controllers.