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Keywords used when searching for previous threads: nintendo, arbitration

A federal judge in Washington has rejected Nintendo's request to have a Nintendo Switch console defect class action lawsuit dismissed.

However, U.S. District Judge Thomas S. Zilly did agree to Nintendo's request that the claims should be handled in arbitration. Instead of throwing out the Nintendo Switch Joy-Con console class action lawsuit entirely, he merely stayed the case while it undergoes arbitration.
Although the judge sent the case to arbitration, he refused to dismiss the Nintendo Switch drift problem class action lawsuit. Instead, Judge Zilly decided to put it on hold until the outcome of the arbitration had been established.
Per the court's direction, the customers and Nintendo will file a Joint Status report within 14 days of completing arbitration, or by Dec. 31, 2020, whichever deadline is earlier.

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Nintendo Switch Joy-Con Class Action Sent To Arbitration

A federal judge in Washington has rejected Nintendo's request to have a Nintendo Switch console defect class action lawsuit dismissed.
 

Puffy

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Nintendo doing its very best to fuck its customers over. Between this and the preorder case, I've never seen a more anti consumer video game company
 

cowbanana

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As a victim of Driftgate, I hope Nintendo has to pay a humongous amount of money for their anti-consumer practices and for continuing to sell a product that they knew full well was completely busted.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nintendo doing its very best to fuck its customers over. Between this and the preorder case, I've never seen a more anti consumer video game company
As a victim of Driftgate, I hope Nintendo has to pay a humongous amount of money for their anti-consumer practices and for continuing to sell a product that they knew full well was completely busted.
Cant you guys replace the Joycons for free ?
EU customers have the right to be mad since its case by case over here but in the US there seems to be a solution in place.
 

Aprikurt

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Oct 29, 2017
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4/4 of my joycons drifty as fuck. I love ya Nintendo but you gotta pay.
 

Cyanity

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope this case results in Nintendo paying so much money in reparations that they never fuck over their customers this hard ever again
 

Gigamear

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Jun 23, 2018
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Have people also been having issues with the Lite? I feel like the size of this news story isnt as intense as it was for those 2-3 months before the lite launched.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Cant you guys replace the Joycons for free ?
EU customers have the right to be mad since its case by case over here but in the US there seems to be a solution in place.
Oh that makes willingly selling a defective product ok then. Fact is Nintendo are knowingly selling a broken product and they should have created new joycons that fix the problem and stop selling the old ones.

And the fact even free replacements aren't worldwide is a absolute joke. People need to stop defending Nintendo's bullshit.
 

MrBanballow

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May 1, 2019
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Cant you guys replace the Joycons for free ?
EU customers have the right to be mad since its case by case over here but in the US there seems to be a solution in place.
To be fair, I don't think they instituted the "free replacement" policy until after the lawsuit was filed (quick web search, found articles about the lawsuit from Jun 22 '19 and the earliest article I found about the "replacement" policy was Jun 24' 19), so I think it's still fair for people to be upset over the situation.
 

J_ToSaveTheDay

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm genuinely shocked there isn't an updated model that at least addresses the drift yet.

Hopefully this is lighting the fire under their ass that makes it happen. The issue isn't even remotely new. I've been very fortunate to not have it happen to any of my joycons personally, but I absolutely know the issue exists because it has happened to nearly every other Switch owner I know and I've seen it first hand.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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To be fair, I don't think they instituted the "free replacement" policy until after the lawsuit was filed (quick web search, found articles about the lawsuit from Jun 22 '19 and the earliest article I found about the "replacement" policy was Jun 24' 19), so I think it's still fair for people to be upset over the situation.
I get that but its been a while since the replacement program has been active - so its a bit weird seeing people being this upset over it.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I get that but its been a while since the replacement program has been active - so its a bit weird seeing people being this upset over it.
They are willingly selling a defective product and aren't even fixing them for free worldwide, not is there a disclaimer that this shit will happen when you buy new joycons, and they never even bothered making new joycons that fix the problem. There's nothing weird about being mad over this. It's anti consumer bullshit and should not be tolerated.
 

Rivyn

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nothing says fucking over consumers like a free replacement program

Nothing says fucking over consumers by issuing a free replacement program only AFTER they were sued. That was just Nintendo covering their own asses while secretly trying to overthrow the entire case. Fuck them. If that isn't anti-consumer bullshit I don't know what is. I loved them in the past, but this shit will make me think twice of getting Nintendo hardware again.
 

TSM

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nothing says fucking over consumers like a free replacement program

Nintendo are still selling new joycons with the same bad design that will eventually drift if used normally. It's pretty clear that they have no intention of fixing the design fault at this point. That's pretty shitty since I'd imagine a good chunk of new joycon sales are people replacing their drifting joycons.
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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To be fair, I don't think they instituted the "free replacement" policy until after the lawsuit was filed (quick web search, found articles about the lawsuit from Jun 22 '19 and the earliest article I found about the "replacement" policy was Jun 24' 19), so I think it's still fair for people to be upset over the situation.
Lawsuit was actually filed July 19, 2019: https://chimicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Class-Action-Complaint-Nintendo-Joy-Con.pdf

News about Nintendo's support policy change did come a couple days after CSK&D started PR for their case but about a month before they actually filed. We don't know exactly when the policy change happened but I suspect we'll find out in court.
 

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I ditched the Joy-Cons due to drift issues and just bought Split Pad Pros and use a Pro controller while docked. Just cut them right out of the equation. Hopefully Nintendo does get hit for this. It's ridiculous. If they corrected the issue proper they would get a Switch Lite purchase out of me too.
 

SunnyDays

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Aug 28, 2019
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Yeap. I had to buy a left joycon and a new pair. Don't live in a country where support is easily accessible, so they can f*ck themselves over this.
This case will be about Nintendo of America, on behalf of US customers. Countries where the support isn't easily accessible, and where there's not the free joycon replacements will not be affected by this lawsuit, nor the results of it.
 

Taco_Human

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Jan 6, 2018
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Yeah they need to pay up. I've been using Sega controllers this generation. The joycons were great until this was a problem, and I stopped using them altogether. They are a fuck up. They need to admit it.
 

Nights

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Oct 27, 2017
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Look, people here who are saying just replacing products is the fix and should solve it are missing the point. The replacements/repairs will just drift again anyway and you'll have to once again send them in or get replacements, over and over. Not only that but special colors/editions of joycons usually aren't returned as they were, they're usually replaced with different ones.

In addition to that when nintendo stops upholding this deal in the future, what are "after the life" switch owners supposed to do when joycons are out of production and only shitty ones are left? Joycons are busted and need to be *actually* fixed, with an updated or new model that actually works.
 

Hu3

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Oct 25, 2017
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I see the defense force is here already. Holy shit fucking disgusting. I hope nintendo gets hit really hard for this shit.

had to replace the pair of joycons three times already, not fun. The worst fucking product, never had so much trouble with and electronic before.
 

Moist_Owlet

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Lol of course era bootlicks nintendo.
 

HardRojo

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And the drifting downplayers are already here, like clockwork. Can't help it, huh? Not all of us have easy access to this free repair program, plus it's not just drifting that's a common issue with Joycons, there's disconnecting issues as well (my left Joycon just started disconnecting randomly in handheld mode). People are rightfully mad that an expensive controller is not up to the standards one would expect.
 

Pooroomoo

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Oct 28, 2017
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I see the defense force is here already. Holy shit fucking disgusting. I hope nintendo gets hit really hard for this shit.

had to replace the pair of joycons three times already, not fun. The worst fucking product, never had so much trouble with and electronic before.
Lol of course era bootlicks nintendo.
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
No, not the "defense force". People like you who go into threads, shouting DEFENSE FORCE. What defense force? I reread the thread just to make sure we were reading the same thread - one (1) single person mentioned the replacement program specifically for the US. That's it. Don't bother replying, you have joined my ignore list - while your anger about the joycons is on point, the rest (" I see the defense force is here already. Holy shit fucking disgusting") totally isn't, all it does is create a toxic environment. Hence ignore.
 

Terraforce

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And the drifting downplayers are already here, like clockwork. Can't help it, huh? Not all of us have easy access to this free repair program, plus it's not just drifting that's a common issue with Joycons, there's disconnecting issues as well (my left Joycon just started disconnecting randomly in handheld mode). People are rightfully mad that an expensive controller is not up to the standards one would expect.
Hey, at least this is a step in the right direction for the damage control team. I remember the time where people here tried outright denying drift even existed, then when they said it wasn't prevalent.
It'll always be silly to me how people find the need to defend multi billion dollar corporations as if they're a close friend.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Nintendo are still selling new joycons with the same bad design that will eventually drift if used normally. It's pretty clear that they have no intention of fixing the design fault at this point. That's pretty shitty since I'd imagine a good chunk of new joycon sales are people replacing their drifting joycons.
I don't get it. What are they doing to repairs/replacements that's not being done in newly sold joycons? Seems like selling defective products which have a high change of requiring service is more costly than selling fixed ones
 

Faiyaz

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EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
No, not the "defense force". People like you who go into threads, shouting DEFENSE FORCE. What defense force? I reread the thread just to make sure we were reading the same thread - one (1) single person mentioned the replacement program specifically for the US. That's it. Don't bother replying, you have joined my ignore list - while your anger about the joycons is on point, the rest (" I see the defense force is here already. Holy shit fucking disgusting") totally isn't, all it does is create a toxic environment. Hence ignore.

Lol you're right. Only one person posts about the replacement thing in the US, and we get posts like "Lol of course era bootlicks Nintendo". What the actual fuck.
 

Raccoon

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May 31, 2019
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Nintendo are still selling new joycons with the same bad design that will eventually drift if used normally. It's pretty clear that they have no intention of fixing the design fault at this point. That's pretty shitty since I'd imagine a good chunk of new joycon sales are people replacing their drifting joycons.
They can't. The sticks are from an outside supplier and no supplier has provided an alternative in the same slim form factor. Their only option would be to discontinue the Switch for a few years
 

rochellepaws

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm surprised Nintendo keep digging themselves deeper on this, surely the repair or replacement costs involved would be preferable to the reputation damage to their brand?
 

-shadow-

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I'm honestly surprised they haven't completely redesigned the sticks still. I've been getting more and more people at my workplace saying they know that the joy-con suffer from the drift after some time and that they'll just grab new ones once it's so far, since the system is useless without them. It's just so odd that many are so nonchalant about them potentially breaking.
 

Unicorn

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Nintendo doing its very best to fuck its customers over. Between this and the preorder case, I've never seen a more anti consumer video game company
Throughout the 80s and 90s they also fought game rentals and Blockbuster tooth and nail. And of course they lost.
 

Pooroomoo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Hey, at least this is a step in the right direction for the damage control team. I remember the time where people here tried outright denying drift even existed, then when they said it wasn't prevalent.
It'll always be silly to me how people find the need to defend multi billion dollar corporations as if they're a close friend.
Read the post just above yours (my post). One single person mentioned the existence of the replacement program specifically in the US, that's it. There is no "damage control team" here in the posts above yours, and yet 4 people already made it a point to discuss not the issue at hand, but this fictitious defense team that is supposedly active in this thread.
 

Starlightmuse

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Oct 27, 2017
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Are Switch Lites drifting already? Man what an absolute shitshow that's going to be if they do
 

Raccoon

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May 31, 2019
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I'm honestly surprised they haven't completely redesigned the sticks still. I've been getting more and more people at my workplace saying they know that the joy-con suffer from the drift after some time and that they'll just grab new ones once it's so far, since the system is useless without them. It's just so odd that many are so nonchalant about them potentially breaking.
they didn't design the sticks in the first place is the problem
 

HardRojo

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Read the post just above yours (my post). One single person mentioned the existence of the replacement program specifically in the US, that's it. There is no "damage control team" here in the posts above yours, and yet 4 people already made it a point to discuss not the issue at hand, but this fictitious defense team that is supposedly active in this thread.
Huh? Hey I detailed my annoyance with the Joycon drifting issue and pointed out I have another issue too. We wouldn't be annoyed by this "defense force" if every time there's a related thread there'd always be someone trying to downplay the issue. Need I also remind you that we once had a thread about "Shut up and just fix your Joycons, stop complaining" some months ago? Yeah, that happened.
The only thing missing is the "But I haven't had any issues with my 4 pairs" post and this thread would be complete.

Also, have you had issues with your Joycons?
 
Nov 18, 2017
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Look ill hold my hands up and say im a Nintendo fanboy, or atleast was growing up. theyre the side i always support, but seeing the bootlickers in this thread come crawling out and act like there isnt a problem is gross. Too much 'fuck you, got mine' on here.

Nintendo are acting in bad faith, not a single move theyve made regarding joycon drift has been anything less than cynical. Especially the replacement program!
 

Akelisrain

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Oct 30, 2017
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Both of my kids sets were sent in for repair. It's been about 6 months and they are beginning to drift again. Kind of crazy they don't redesign the controllers.
 

Puggles

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I've had to send 4 of my 8 joycons in for drift so far. I just got one back yesterday and the drift is fixed but the SL button doesn't work any more...what the hell Nintendo.
 
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