The better question is which AAA Nintendo game took 2 years to develop in the past 15 years?
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Nintendo releases video about Metroid Prime 4 development - Currently below expectations - Will redo from scratch with Retro Studios
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The better question is which AAA Nintendo game took 2 years to develop in the past 15 years?
Retro will be a changed studio from the old metroid prime days. Some key staff left to Armature studios, so there's going to be new blood and the people who are still there from the MP days haven't made a metroid game in ten years, so I'd think it'd be fresh to them too. I'd imagine they were getting pretty burned out by MP3, working on nothing but metroid for 6 years.
This could theoretically be good because they likely had a spot for it on their schedule they'll need to fill, which could result in us seeing Pikmin 4, Prime HD, or even new Smash DLC or a BOTW expansion so they don't miss projected earnings. How long does it take to make an F-Zero game?
Hasn't there been bad rumours about Retro's project for awhile? I'm also not 100% sure how game development works, but if they're starting over from scratch they're not going to need the entire studio for a bit. It's possible their game is close to being finished or would have been cancelled anyways.
On one hand, the wait will be brutal. On the other hand having it at Retro makes me way more excited. This is probably why games don't get announced so early because this has to be a rough decision to come to but I appreciate Nintendo being upfront about it.
This is painful but the right move. Clearly Prime 4 wasn't going well.
Welcome back home, Prime. :)
This is painful but the right move. Clearly Prime 4 wasn't going well.
Welcome back home, Prime. :)
Wouldn't be too worried. Their last game was stellar. They're a great studio.
Retro should have been on it from day 1. This game is now a long way away.
Nintendo do the right thing and release the Metroid Prime trilogy on switch.
Nintendo do the right thing and release the Metroid Prime trilogy on switch.
[QUOTE="Bobo Dakes]I'm not buying this, you knew about the delay when you typed this. [/quote]
Just quoting this from the other thread that got locked, but I don't really appreciate being essentially called a liar for something I genuinely didn't know. Maybe don't assume stuff in the future. I just saw that thread on the top of the page and made a post, that's it.
This news is fucking disastrous though. Nintendo better have some more games on the horizon for this year otherwise it's 2018 all over again. Glad to see it's Retro working on it, but this is gonna take several years to release now.
Just quoting this from the other thread that got locked, but I don't really appreciate being essentially called a liar for something I genuinely didn't know. Maybe don't assume stuff in the future. I just saw that thread on the top of the page and made a post, that's it.
This news is fucking disastrous though. Nintendo better have some more games on the horizon for this year otherwise it's 2018 all over again. Glad to see it's Retro working on it, but this is gonna take several years to release now.
This is a disappointment but it's probably for the best in the end, and the fact that Nintendo are being weirdly transparent about this is a nice change of pace.
It's good that it's gone back to Retro too, you can say all you want that it's a completely different team than the Prime trilogy days, but their environmental design is still top notch.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what the cancelled version of Prime 4 looked like.
It's good that it's gone back to Retro too, you can say all you want that it's a completely different team than the Prime trilogy days, but their environmental design is still top notch.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what the cancelled version of Prime 4 looked like.
Wow. Wowowowowowowow. WOW!
I literally just woke up and saw the news. This is huge! I'm shocked.
I really appreciate the transparency so we have a clear understanding of where MP4 is at. I'm ok with waiting a few more years. Looking forward to what the new age of Retro Studios will create.
See you guys in 2021?
I literally just woke up and saw the news. This is huge! I'm shocked.
I really appreciate the transparency so we have a clear understanding of where MP4 is at. I'm ok with waiting a few more years. Looking forward to what the new age of Retro Studios will create.
See you guys in 2021?
This is more-or-less what I'd imagine to be the scenario that'll play out.
If this means the game will be inherently superior, then go for it. It sucks though that it took them this long to realize they needed Retro on board.
Talking to a bud about this and this came up.
"What if Nintendo knew this is how it was going to go and wanted to announce Prime 4 to push units, and simply announced it to get units out the door while they waited for Retro to free up while they were waiting on something that, arguably, less people but still a good chunk of people were waiting for. (F-Zero). I mean I'd say the Prime 4 announcement pushed at least a million units. I know that's what pushed me to buy one. Or Perhaps they had Bamco make a basis and intended to have Retro come in and finish things up? Why not, right? They have a good track record with Smash Bros. But what if it was so bad they had no choice but to boot Bamco out. Retro has something coming and it's coming soon, there's no way they don't."
I got a strong feeling Retro has something in store for us... this year.
"What if Nintendo knew this is how it was going to go and wanted to announce Prime 4 to push units, and simply announced it to get units out the door while they waited for Retro to free up while they were waiting on something that, arguably, less people but still a good chunk of people were waiting for. (F-Zero). I mean I'd say the Prime 4 announcement pushed at least a million units. I know that's what pushed me to buy one. Or Perhaps they had Bamco make a basis and intended to have Retro come in and finish things up? Why not, right? They have a good track record with Smash Bros. But what if it was so bad they had no choice but to boot Bamco out. Retro has something coming and it's coming soon, there's no way they don't."
I got a strong feeling Retro has something in store for us... this year.
Good stuff. Completely agreed on all points.
It sucks that this game is at least 3-4 years away, but if the game really wasn't coming together, then I don't think they could have handled this any better. It's refreshing to see them this forthright about a game in development.
I'm just always very sceptical when there's no announcement trailer or anything to show for a project. Leaks are great as they at least let us know something was being worked on. Colour me a pessimist.
The original team has been straight up CC2'd, lmao.
I appreciate the transparency and wonder if we'll see whatever Retro has been doing since DKTF or if that is on ice as well
I appreciate the transparency and wonder if we'll see whatever Retro has been doing since DKTF or if that is on ice as well
In theory, for Nintendo its help em a lot if they let some 3rd party help develop exclusives. but this is one example of things going all south. specially after the great work ubisoft did with a bloody Rabbids crossover
this is seriously admirable, most other companies would have just continued and shipped the game even if it wasn't up to their standards, specially since this isn't like mario or zelda, this isn't a big title for them. to realize it's not up to their standards of a nintendo published game and do this, is pretty good news and a good reminder of why nintendo is in a league of their own. it's the superb quality control.
Be happy you're disappointed about the delay, and not the game itself. :D
Even if Nintendo didn't restart the game from scratch, Metroid Prime 4 coming in 2019 was unlikely to begin with.
I love me some Tropical Freeze, it's literally one of my all time favorites
just worried that 2019 retro isn't the studio for a Metroid Prime game and were thrown this because putting the Retro name on it would work as a consolation in light of the delay
The funny thing is that when people criticized Nintendo for only showing a logo I remember people saying "This will come first than FF7R" lol
The sad part is that may still be true : (
Anyway if the game was under Nintendo expectations this is the right decision.
it's possible depending on where Retro's current game is, if its already far in the dev cycle then they may have free resources to plan and design MP4 for however long it takes whilst Dev/testing etc completes on their current title.
to be honest with what they pulled off with Metroid Prime i'd really want to see what title they were/are currently working on (+ MP Trilogy)
some day...
to be honest with what they pulled off with Metroid Prime i'd really want to see what title they were/are currently working on (+ MP Trilogy)
some day...
they rarely do it anyways tho. almost every game they announce gets released withing 1 year
Retro was doing something at time? Bamcon begged to be let to dev metroid??
While that was what everyone was thinking I've always thought it was weird to put out the game after two years of development. Didn't they literally start development when it was announced at E3 2017? That's a hell of a short timeframe.
It's great to see that most reactions to this are very positive and understanding. Nintendo had huge balls and they definately deserve credit here.
Now that's a bit of 'glass half full' thinking that I could use more of. Cheers.
1) Nowhere have we heard who the director of the game is and it is EXTREMELY unlikely the director is the same considering the game is switching studios entirely? Kensuke Tanabe is the producer, not the director. Rewatch the video.
2) If you think this game has any flying chance in hell of coming out next year you need to readjust some expectations. Nintendo themselves told us "starting from scratch". They didn't sugar coat it. They are legit starting over. Even if they are using pre existing material, a new Metroid Prime game isn't getting developed in 18 months.
Balls. I want it to turn out good, but that's one of the few announced exclusives I care about (and Switch is an exclusives box for me as I don't care about portability) so a long delay there sucks.
What I wonder now is if this really increases the possibility of a port of the Metroid Prime Trilogy or even a up-port of Federation Force which turned out to be a good game (Nintendo's handling of it was piss poor) but would be improved with the Switch's controls and gyro.