Well you see, every labo Kit comes with a game specifically built to use with the kit.
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Nintendo Labo VR Kit announced (launching 4/12, starter kit $40)
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that's a completely different project. that would have been a platform they have to keep making games for and ask third parties to port their vr games to. this isn't a vr platform at all, it's just something they put out and be done with. they don't need to support it with further content.
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The visor kit has plastic rings on the sides that could be used to strap it to your face.
Also it's entirely intended to be that way, so that you cannot permanently strap it to your face (at least easily) and play for hours. It's a self-regulating playtime mechanism, for kids who can be adversely affected by VR.
so you have no idea what labo is?
Ah fair point, I haven't looked too deeply into it. But I'm assuming they still have some sort of control when you're holding them up? Mario Kart can be done with motion controls even and there's also the auto-steering/accelerating they have put in Deluxe.
I mean, my point is that the comfort of using it is going to be objectively worse worse than the most basic of vr headsets. Most phones have a far higher resolution screen that is also better quality. Have you played any 3d games on mobile recently? They look quite nice. The 720p screen will always hold back the switch in this situation no matter how much more polygons it could push. You would be better off buying any other labo kit since you'd end up with a better product.
The specs of the switch vs most phones available right now?
True if you just mean the screen. The Switch has a significant leg up on most smartphones simply because it has active cooling.
It's basically my first VR. I don't think anyone is expecting anything more from this.
Mini games right? Don't know much about them
I know it's a kit that you build stuff with, beyond that no.
you build the kits to play the games included in the cartridge, using each kid to play a separate games. you can also make your own simplistic games using basic programming.
DxM isn't a nintendo IP, they're just publishing it outside japan like they did for octopath.
i feel like they will probably prioritize resolution in the mini games here to get to native 720p on the switch screen to make the VR experience as good as possible (which is not that good compared to other VR solutions but still), it's not like the mini games have to be graphically impressive and as a result have to run at sub native res.
Not sure how a Switch mini would even work in the first place. How could they make the joycons and smaller and would you even want them too?
That's what I saw too...but it doesn't look like anywhere inside the Headset that eyelets can attach to on the other side.
I hope we can strap it somehow but the box contents leave me worried.
Reading some things back...
Anytime Nintendo announces something LABO related, whatever it is. To me it looks like there's this kind of curse that comes into play that makes grown up (?) people very, very angry about all sort of things that aren't really the point or related at all... I mean WHAT is happening people?
Nintendo produces entertainment for all ages, even if it's not the 4K experience you had hoped for along with the Switch Pro announcement. Yes, this is probably Google Cardboard but with a Nintendo sprinkle tossed in in the form of unique software designed to make the VR experience accessible to kids as well, I really respect it that they attempt this after they initially stated that they thought the VR market was not in a stage that they wanted to attempt this for themselves.
Seems like they found a way after all, blame them for trying.
Anytime Nintendo announces something LABO related, whatever it is. To me it looks like there's this kind of curse that comes into play that makes grown up (?) people very, very angry about all sort of things that aren't really the point or related at all... I mean WHAT is happening people?
Nintendo produces entertainment for all ages, even if it's not the 4K experience you had hoped for along with the Switch Pro announcement. Yes, this is probably Google Cardboard but with a Nintendo sprinkle tossed in in the form of unique software designed to make the VR experience accessible to kids as well, I really respect it that they attempt this after they initially stated that they thought the VR market was not in a stage that they wanted to attempt this for themselves.
Seems like they found a way after all, blame them for trying.
A cardboard DIY set with a giant elephant trunk on the box isn't aimed at me?!
They are about as high as the Latest Streetfighter game, but apparently thats a failure for a new ip.
Check the kid with the yellow backdrop picture on the OP, you can hold the VR with the joy cons attached, thats mean you have access to the controls.
apparently for a nintendo game, unless it does 10 million it's a flop.
Is it social though? :P (which Reggie said about current VR some years ago, that it wasnt social).
On a more serious note, this looks like the most interesting Labo kit so far, in my opinion. Even if the resolution is pretty low for VR, it can still give the 3D-like feeling. We also had VR back in the 90s with even lower resolution. I remember trying it in mid 90s. Honestly, i cant remember too much from the experience itself (i only remember where i tried it, and that i was holding a handle-like controller, moving my head and that motion responded in what i saw in the game), but it was VR at least.
On a more serious note, this looks like the most interesting Labo kit so far, in my opinion. Even if the resolution is pretty low for VR, it can still give the 3D-like feeling. We also had VR back in the 90s with even lower resolution. I remember trying it in mid 90s. Honestly, i cant remember too much from the experience itself (i only remember where i tried it, and that i was holding a handle-like controller, moving my head and that motion responded in what i saw in the game), but it was VR at least.
True ..although that would be uncomfortable as hell for any length of time.
They actually seem to be a part of the lens assembly itself, the big premade plastic piece with the optics. I'd assume those rings are how the lenses are secured to the cardboard.
I'm also not sure how exactly securing them to something else would work in this case, but at least for the Toy-Con Robot, the same kind of eyelets are used as a hinge to secure the flip-up visor to the headband.
Right? It is. More VR is good. But I think in the end 80% of the people buying it will be adults.
Based on looking at the basic specs for Google Cardboard compatible phone and the Switch? High persistence screen, very, very low resolution, subpar tracking etc. makes this by far the worst of the lot. Google Cardboard is the worst VR experience you can have already.
...no? A mid range smartphone blows the Switch display tech out of the water. Switch easily has the power to provide simple VR experiences, but the display is dreadful for VR. Come on.
The screen is super super SUPER important when it comes to VR... Like, it's pretty much the most critical aspect of good VR.
Oh boy...
Labo is really dead! 100 % dead!
I mean, wtf is this?!? This even worse than the Virtual Boy.
With regular VR, people even complain about the fact that you need to wear something on your head. And now Nintendo wants people to constantly hold the Swtich + Toycons.
The only thing with a veeeery slight chance of saving Nintendo Labo was a Labo Sports, but this right here is just a complete death sentence.
Labo is really dead! 100 % dead!
I mean, wtf is this?!? This even worse than the Virtual Boy.
With regular VR, people even complain about the fact that you need to wear something on your head. And now Nintendo wants people to constantly hold the Swtich + Toycons.
The only thing with a veeeery slight chance of saving Nintendo Labo was a Labo Sports, but this right here is just a complete death sentence.
Looks like it, but If I was a kid I'd ask for an oculus or a psvr not this...cardboard.
No... no it's not. It's really not, unless you strictly mean immersive VR, the kind where you put a helmet on your face and shut the real world out. I look at something as simple as the Starmap app on an Android tablet, and it's pretty awesome to me. No headset, no nothing, just a window into somewhere else that moves as I move and lets me look at things.
For a toy, it's much more important to be fun, engaging, and memorable.
More like people are flabbergasted as to why nintendo would release something worse than google cardboard. They should have just made more labo kits
At least the Virtual Boy came with a stand, so you wouldn't have to hold it all the time.
Nah, but most vr headsets are pretty cheap anyway, it's not like you can spoil your kid with a $200 headset.
But isn't that exactly what they have done with this release? I'm sure I saw a number 4 on the box somewhere...
Nintendo views themselves as a toy company, not a tech company, and it really shows with products like this.
Comparing this to something like Occulus is like comparing a Fisher-Price toy xylophone to a professional keyboard - in other words, it's a dumb comparison.
Comparing this to something like Occulus is like comparing a Fisher-Price toy xylophone to a professional keyboard - in other words, it's a dumb comparison.
Don't be dense, you know I meant non-VR kits
This is some next level hiding of your head in the sand. This is literally a VR headset you put your face into and "shut the real world out". It's going directly up against Google Cardboard and the 3DOF headsets out there, even if it doesn't allow you to actually attach it to your head. I don't care if it's aimed at kids, because kids can just as easily use the other alternatives out there.
Using the Starmap app as an argument is ...baffling. That's not VR.
Tell me more about how the display tech isn't one of the most important parts in VR, though. I'd love to hear your arguments on that.
Agree... Nintendo: Its for kids, $40, cardboard, again... for kids. Era: I dont like it, cardboard, 720p, but but the real vr, going to skip... Its going to be fun to watch this becoming the most successful VR (behind the google cardboard)
That stand made the Virtual Boy really uncomfortable to play, honestly. Always had to crane my neck a bit to play it, which would make it get sore after too long. The eyestrain wasn't nearly as bad as the neck pain I'd get from it.
Anyway, this looks fine for what it is. I'd like to see some footage of the games, though. If there's a VR Duck Hunt game in it, I'm in!
yeah and you think parents of 8 year old kids will say "sure sweetie"?
"Adult-toy-con" conjures an entirely different set of images really.
The developer kit of Oculus Rift also maxed out at 720p resolution. I think it's good enough for the artstyle of Labo games but don't expect a Resident Evil 7 port.
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Why not? you know kids, they will play with this for a day and forget about it, at least with an actual VR headset the whole family can get some use out of it.
Big fan of grown adults losing the plot in here over a child's toy AS PER USUAL.
I'm super curious to see it in action. I had a great laugh with the first Labo kit, and am keen to try this one too.
This is not a proper VR competitor, its Nintendo leveraging its strengths to produce something that appeals to tech and construction interested kids. If you're having a little cry over this announcement, just take a deep breath and remember the golden mantra: no one is forcing you to buy or engage with a n y t h i n g.
I'm super curious to see it in action. I had a great laugh with the first Labo kit, and am keen to try this one too.
This is not a proper VR competitor, its Nintendo leveraging its strengths to produce something that appeals to tech and construction interested kids. If you're having a little cry over this announcement, just take a deep breath and remember the golden mantra: no one is forcing you to buy or engage with a n y t h i n g.
jesus, this fucking thread
it's not an either/or situation. you can all the kits or only the ones you want. this will probably be interesting to kids who have gotten the previous kits.