Change in SoC does not mean an enhancement (At least not ones that are relevant to an end user). I guess this is still all based on the previous rumors then.
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Nintendo is updating the original Switch with a new CPU and storage
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Change in SoC does not mean an enhancement (At least not ones that are relevant to an end user). I guess this is still all based on the previous rumors then.
This would be coming out almost 3 years after the switch with very minor upgrades
That market absolutely still is the bread and butter of the phone market today.
Nintendo can do whatever they want but I think if they feel they can get through a 5-6 year product cycle without a PS4 Pro/XBX1 type refresh and maintain sales momentum ... I think they've got a rude awakening coming for them after the Switch's 3rd anniversary.
I disagree, we just know that it will get a new SOC. We don't even know if it's the same as the Lite, and we don't know what the Lite one is capable of as well. Although I think it's safe to assume that it's a 16mm part and that already covers most of my expectations TBH.
No heat/battery constrains, so the clocks can be pushed higher for better performance. It's about a 2.5x increase, you didn't know that? It allows for games to push(or at least try to) full hd resolutions compared to the 720p target for handheld node.
The "Apple route" involves brand new SKUs with brand new features. Every year.
It says it's a revision of the OG. That means you're constrained by the OG and its form factor and features unless it becomes an entirely different (i.e., new) model.
It's really, really not. The market is now split between deluxe phone offerings from Apple etc and much cheaper new competitors from China. Very, very few people are getting yearly phone upgrades any more.
It's actually less than that. Those are new skus, this is not.
What soc were people even expecting to be in a switch pro ? Like there is no upgrade path on the Nvidia mobile side (not counting x2) unless they are going to get them to make a chip especially for the switch.
Because it's unlikely that Nintendo would quietly upgrade the SoC in the Switch only to release a new Pro model within the next 6-8 months.
So this is a straight up revision because they aren't changing the ID
And it looks like the external might be the same as well
My guess is they will call it a 64GB switch or something and with it will be the associated spec bump, and then they will slowly end production of the 32 gb one
And it looks like the external might be the same as well
My guess is they will call it a 64GB switch or something and with it will be the associated spec bump, and then they will slowly end production of the 32 gb one
Its not an upgrade, just a change in CPU model (I assume their original stock ran out and a newer gen fixes some issues and might be a bit more future proof in availability.) This is 99% most likely not a pro model or whatever, just the same SKU, just some hardware swaps.
Many people are still on the standard "I upgrade my phone every 2 years when my contract is up" cycle.
I am not sure form factor or other features (say, redesigned joy-cons) are relevant for the FCC certification. They might still pull out a "new 3ds" and we wouldn't know yet because they don't need to mention it in order to get it approved. That's all I'm saying. But I am sure it will be really similar to the original Switch, which after all doesn't need that much of a revamp.
I always thought the dock was a gimmick, it's only a plastic case. There's no additionnal GPU/CPU within the dock so for me, it's only a way to connect it easily on the TV while it charged. When I see difference between docked and undocked, for me, it's the same as plugged and not plugged.
Would people still think a Switch Pro could come or Nintendo just waits it out until the Switch 2?
This likely the Pro, but I am sure a LOT of people wont accept that likelyhood...I said it all along. Easiest, cheapest, most Nintendo-like Pro path is just to upclock the in place Tegra and change nothing else (plus that's Nintendo's history aka new 3DS).
If it was RAM challenged, aka it had 2GB, I can see them upping RAM, but 4GB RAM is plenty in Switch's price slot in todays market and relative to the performance. Further, RAM often can only be doubled due to bus width constraints (not sure if this applies to Switch SOC) so the next step has to be 8GB, not 5GB or 6GB. And that's too much/expensive/unnecessary.
If it was RAM challenged, aka it had 2GB, I can see them upping RAM, but 4GB RAM is plenty in Switch's price slot in todays market and relative to the performance. Further, RAM often can only be doubled due to bus width constraints (not sure if this applies to Switch SOC) so the next step has to be 8GB, not 5GB or 6GB. And that's too much/expensive/unnecessary.
Mark my words, its the original switch but with a newer chip for security purposes. no increase in specs or anything. just a bigger storage
Samsung and Apple still ship hundreds of millions of phones every year. Just because something is on a downtick doesn't mean it's an absolute market reality, it's like saying "movie theaters are finished because box office was down!" which gets trotted every year the box office is down for the last 20 years, lol.
Isn't this basically the PS3 going from 20 to 60 GB to 80 GB? Like it wasn't a new system, just improved the original? It didn't have a new name. It was still called the "PS3".
Why? It's a chip on a smaller manufacturing node, so either we'll get longer battery life or a smaller battery and the same battery life, and little else to talk about. No magical power boost.
It could be a business change, say, ISP providers "provide" the phone and change it every year or so with no additional cost. Like renting a car, always new. Owning something will be less acurate I think in the coming years.
Pro/X/Apple/etc. have created a horrible precedent for folks who didn't or otherwise don't realize that, at the end of the day, the Switch is nothing but a tablet sporting a Nintendo badge.
I'd kill for 720/60 locked in portable (and with decent battery life to boot), but that likely ain't happening anytime soon.
I don't think it'll be a silent revision but the changes won't be that big, they'll probably call it Nintendo Switch+.
So, more than likely just some minor upgrades to the current Switch model. Makes sense, as the Lite is coming out this year.
I still keep coming back to this tweet by Mochizuki at the WSJ:
He's going to wait for "the other one". I don't think he would have phrased it like that if "the other one" was just a quiet refresh of the OG Switch with nothing worth waiting for.
"The other one" sounds like the "other" new model.
He's going to wait for "the other one". I don't think he would have phrased it like that if "the other one" was just a quiet refresh of the OG Switch with nothing worth waiting for.
"The other one" sounds like the "other" new model.
Sure, but I struggle to think of anyone else who based their whole Era persona around the idea of an upgraded Switch.
I do feel like this is going to just be an internal revision so that both Switch models are going to be on the same chip, and not a Switch Pro. I don't really see how a relatively small perfomance bump is really going to help Nintendo much. It's not like there is a new Tegra out there that can push 4k or anything.
I bet it will be a storage bump, the chip will have the security issues fixed, and any efficiency gains they're going straight into improving the battery life in handheld mode. So it will be a nice upgrade but nothing that is going to make a current Switch obsolete.
I bet it will be a storage bump, the chip will have the security issues fixed, and any efficiency gains they're going straight into improving the battery life in handheld mode. So it will be a nice upgrade but nothing that is going to make a current Switch obsolete.
Then that's a Switch Pro to me in the end. If they give it a new name that's what I consider a "Switch Pro". I think Emily said it will come in 2 colors. I have to look back.
Yeah it's just that so many people are reading into this as something like an Xbox One X or PS4 Pro version and it's most likely not.
Emily said here it would come in at least 2 colors. I wonder what the colors would be? Maybe darker colors?
Yep, and I'm gonna buy it. Improved battery life, hopefully 64gb internal storage and some cool new colours.
Reckon it'll come out in September?
Yeah, It'll be the "Pro" but I doubt Nintendo would refer to it as a "Pro". Pro would imply there's a base model as well, and that base model can't be the Lite. Sony and Microsoft may have the standard model and the upgraded model, while Nintendo will always have the standard model and the cheaper inferior model. We may have 3 SKU until the OG runs out of stock but I believe the new revision will simply replace the OG model and become the next standard Switch, the one we'll see everywhere and that'll get most sales. I found it interesting they announced a Lite Pokémon edition without the game as compared to Let's Go last year, they're probably waiting for the revision to be announced.
It'll simply be the new Switch and even if games run better that won't be what Nintendo will promote alongside it, it'll probably have new features too.
With a smaller node you can also get better performance with the same heat/power consumption. Not saying it will be the case...but dismissing the option sounds biased and there is nothing magical about it.
Nintendo was already experimenting with unlocking new power profiles on the original model so if the possibility is there I don't see why they should not consider it.
It's basically a free boost since they probably HAD to move to 16nm, and they can reap the advantages in the way they see fit. I understand tempering expectations, but this is a bit too much.
As long as people don't expect games jumping from 30 to 60fps or doubling the resolution I think they should be fine. I expect a minor boost that will remove some bottlenecks.
IMO this guys tweet is worth as much as 25 posters saying it doesn't exist. Clearly this is referring to something more than a spec bump.
Ok I will just wait for it to be announced and we get the real info. Too much speculation in here.
Makes sense. Dismissing just for no reason doesn't.