One game has a riveting story, amazing dungeons, cool and unique locales, timeless characters, and interesting villains.
One game has a riveting story, amazing dungeons, cool and unique locales, timeless characters, and interesting villains.
The other game is BotW. A bland, empty sandbox with a barebones story and the bare minimum in terms of dungeons.
First of all I can't think of a single interesting location in BotW, beyond maybe the ninja hideout. Everything else is just boring wilderness, copy-paste dungeon room aesthetics, a couple big towns, and mob camps. It's been years since I've played TP but I remember it has that cool snow mansion, the sweet sky temple, the twilight realm bits, and potentially the most interesting castle town in the series.I can't think of a single tihng that BOTW didn't do better than Twilight princess, or other 3D Zelda games for that matter.
Well, going off the article, it doesn't sound like they were keeping them apprised exactly, but rather they were just answering Tantalus's questions? It seems like Tantalus either approached Nintendo to port Twilight Princess HD or brought it up during another conversation with them, and Nintendo told them they don't have any plans for it and it's "not a priority". Unless I'm misunderstanding?I once again ask why Nintendo would keep Tantalus apprised of this information. They haven't had anything to do with the game since their contract work ended years ago.
They would not even reply to the question in that case.I mean even if they had been it'd be under NDA and they wouldn't be able to say anything right?
Wasn't it only Jeff Grubb saying they were coming? Has he ever reported on anything accurately for Nintendo in the past (I'm only asking because I genuinely don't know, actually)? I thought he was mainly an Xbox insider?
I believe that was more speculation on his part rather than him saying he had heard they were coming. He was the one to report on the Prime remaster though that hasn't been announced yet? Hard to remember, though he generally has a good track record.Wasn't it only Jeff Grubb saying they were coming? Has he ever reported on anything accurately for Nintendo in the past (I'm only asking because I genuinely don't know, actually)? I thought he was mainly an Xbox insider?
Edit: Seems you were right after all.I believe that was more speculation on his part rather than him saying he had heard they were coming.
I hate how every zelda thread devolves into "Your fave zelda actually sucks" hereNo, it's exactly as you said. But we need another thread with Zelda fans stabbing each other.
Yeah, that seemed familiar. The unfortunate thing about Grubb's position and his generally good track record is you have people just writing up stories just from his speculation. At least Nintendo Life paid close enough attention to realize this was speculation on his part and him not claiming to have any knowledge here. I think Grubb's logic is strong and as I've said before considering how little work is needed to bring those games to Switch I don't think Tantalus not being involved guarantees anything BUT technically no information around these remasters existing was ever actually leaked.Edit: Seems you were right after all.
Rumour: Could Switch Get Zelda: Wind Waker And Twilight Princess This Year?
Sigh, here we go...www.nintendolife.com
The topic would be asked to be removed from the podcast in editing in a case like that.
Something we can all agree on is Wand of Gamelon is the peak of the series.I hate how every zelda thread devolves into "Your fave zelda actually sucks" here
Like seriously this is a highly rated series of beloved games that mean so much to peole do we REALLY need to have so much negativity as a fanbase?
Why dont we talk about trh cool things th3 series has done for once. Our fave characters and items??
But no we need to talk about
"Actually linear zelda sucks"
"Actually open world zelda sucks"
"Actually zelda hasnt been good since Zelda1/ alttp/ OoT/MM/WW"
For the 1 trillionth time and act like its such an edgy take
Like youd think the franchise is goddamn modern sonic the hedgehog tier of awfulness the way people talk.
This is why i prefer to talk with casual zelda fans, they actually prefer talking about things they like for once instead of just dunking all the time like hardcore ones
If nothing else, it speaks to how disruptive of a game Breath of the Wild is. Everybody got extremely comfortable with what a 3D Zelda was expected to be and BOTW shattered that expectation. People can love it or hate it, but it highlighted Nintendo's willingness to subvert expectations. It's only natural that it's caused such a massive schism for online discussions.These 3D Zelda threads are quite toxic now, damn
Any excuse to start crying about the direction the franchise has gone in
Right, gotcha. Well, the logic is sound, but really, if Nintendo had ever wanted to do these ports, why wouldn't they have done them by now? I mean, I don't know if it's some weird internal logic on Nintendo's part (like "these games have already been remastered, so we can't release them again"), or if they just don't think they would sell enough to justify the porting costs or what, but it just seems to me like if they wanted to do it and thought it would be worthwhile, they would've already done so by now, no?Yeah, that seemed familiar. The unfortunate thing about Grubb's position and his generally good track record is you have people just writing up stories just from his speculation. At least Nintendo Life paid close enough attention to realize this was speculation on his part and him not claiming to have any knowledge here. I think Grubb's logic is strong and as I've said before considering how little work is needed to bring those games to Switch I don't think Tantalus not being involved guarantees anything BUT technically no information around these remasters existing was ever actually leaked.
Nintendo is all about doing things at what they perceive to be the right time. That said, I think Grubb is right in that if we want to see these anytime soon the window is closing. Starting to think ports of these remasters could be an early Switch 2 thing.Right, gotcha. Well, the logic is sound, but really, if Nintendo had ever wanted to do these ports, why wouldn't they have done them by now? I mean, I don't know if it's some weird internal logic on Nintendo's part (like "these games have already been remastered, so we can't release them again"), or if they just don't think they would sell enough to justify the porting costs or what, but it just seems to me like if they wanted to do it and thought it would be worthwhile, they would've already done so by now, no?
Great point. The fact that it also redefined what an open world game can be (of course with influence) considering this was Nintendo's first attempt at it is nothing short of amazing.If nothing else, it speaks to how disruptive of a game Breath of the Wild is. Everybody got extremely comfortable with what a 3D Zelda was expected to be and BOTW shattered that expectation. People can love it or hate it, but it highlighted Nintendo's willingness to subvert expectations. It's only natural that it's caused such a massive schism for online discussions.
Well, I hope you're right in the end, I'd take them whenever Nintendo wanted to release them. At this point, I'd just like to have them on something modern before my Wii U kicks the bucket. :(Nintendo is all about doing things at what they perceive to be the right time. That said, I think Grubb is right in that if we want to see these anytime soon the window is closing. Starting to think ports of these remasters could be an early Switch 2 thing.
Ofc . Gaming hasnt been as good sinceSomething we can all agree on is Wand of Gamelon is the peak of the series.
As ive been saying tireless every BOTW thread. The zelda team is highly intuned to fan feedback. I assure that an reasonable criticsm of the first game will be adressed in 2. (Ie not feed back such as "dont be open world")Great point. The fact that it also redefined what an open world game can be (of course with influence) considering this was Nintendo's first attempt at it is nothing short of amazing.
If anything, people that didn't like BOTW for select reasons (durability, lack of traditional dungeons etc), may end up finding themselves interested in the sequel because of how Nintendo may have iterated and refined these systems to better fit the game.
Every Zelda thread is a cesspool here. It's a shame.I hate how every zelda thread devolves into "Your fave zelda actually sucks" here
Like seriously this is a highly rated series of beloved games that mean so much to peole do we REALLY need to have so much negativity as a fanbase?
Why dont we talk about trh cool things th3 series has done for once. Our fave characters and items??
But no we need to talk about
"Actually linear zelda sucks"
"Actually open world zelda sucks"
"Actually zelda hasnt been good since Zelda1/ alttp/ OoT/MM/WW"
For the 1 trillionth time and act like its such an edgy take
Like youd think the franchise is goddamn modern sonic the hedgehog tier of awfulness the way people talk.
This is why i prefer to talk with casual zelda fans, they actually prefer talking about things they like for once instead of just dunking all the time like hardcore ones
Yeah, I'm thinking Wii U could be the last time we ever see these games get released too. It's absolutely tragic too, because these games are true classics that deserve to be easily accessible not just to us, but to new generations of Nintendo fans as well, but that just doesn't seem to be in the cards.This is unfortunate but I'm really not surprised. It's been rumored for several years now with no real evidence that it was coming. I had a sneaking suspicion that's it's just not happening. Glad I held onto my Wii U copies. Might be the last versions of Wind Waker/Twilight Princess that we ever get.
I don't think so, unfortunately. The phrasing implies Tantalus spoke to Nintendo about this and were told ports of these games are not something Nintendo is interested in doing.I really hope this means they either have another studio porting it or they're doing it themselves because… come on nintendo… porting these two games over isn't a big ask.
If nothing else, it speaks to how disruptive of a game Breath of the Wild is. Everybody got extremely comfortable with what a 3D Zelda was expected to be and BOTW shattered that expectation
Saying you don't think they will happen, or that you don't care about them getting ported is one thing, but why would you not want them to happen? This viewpoint is one I really can't understand. We're talking about ports here, it's not going to take away from any new games Nintendo would release, just like all their other Wii U ports didn't. It wouldn't impact BOTW 2 or any projects from Nintendo. The architectural differences wouldn't likely give them anymore trouble than any of the other Wii U ports they've done, either (and they've also ported/emulated GameCube and Wii games on Switch as well).These ports shouldn't happen is my hot take. WW and TP happened as fast, cheap jobs because the Wii U needed immediate filler in its library and the architectural compatibility of GCN>Wii>Wii U easily facilitated this. Those games are improved, they are already 1080p, and it would probably take more to transition the games from Wii U to Switch than is worth it.
BotW 2 is coming within a year, it will likely have DLC, SS HD wasn't really that long ago, and there could well be another Grezzo project in the works. Let's allow these games to be part of an online service or be 4k filler in the Switch 2 library.
Why can't we have a single Zelda thread that's even minimally civilized?
Damn, is that a 3D model, or upressed with Ai learning or something ?? :0
Same reason as to why we can't have a BOTW2 thread without it turning into a "ZELDA NEDDS TO BE PLAYABLE".
Not even remotely the same thing.
Going into a thread to announce "I think (critically acclaimed game here) sucks" is not the same thing as believing Zelda should be playable.
People are rightfully tired of Zelda being a damsel in every game and Nintendo doing everything possible to not have her be playable.