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It sure won't underperform, but (imo) it won't simply overperform compared to previous Tales of games. And we all know that this is what Bamco expect and aimed for with this game.
Needs walls and ceilings to become a tunnel.
Although in Super Metroid there's that bridge, which is also a tunnel, which you blast open with a Power Bomb.
So I guess the answer is when you can Power Bomb it.
It will not underperform. But I hope Bandai Namco didn't expect this to be their "Monster Hunter World moment".
It'll do good, still has a chance to be the best selling game in the series (thanks to steam) but will never reach its full potential. That would make Namco go even harder on eventual Switch late port.
"Hello, galactic federation IT. Have you tried power bomb it off and on again?"
I think it's a little early to say that it was "saved." Remember that delaying a game a year increases the cost of development substantially.
That's what I mean. It looks much more expensive than previous Tales games. They're clearly hoping for it to be a Monster Hunter World-style breakout for the series internationally and have budgeted accordingly, and I'm not sure that's going to work out for them.
Sonic Colors Ultimate is a bugfest because it's running some people are playing it on emulators, apparently:
Sega working real hard to outdo Nintendo's limited-run emulated compilation horseshit from 2020.
Edited/patched for clarity - I gave Sega too little credit, and then gave strangers on the internet the benefit of the doubt. A poisonous combination.
Edited/patched for clarity - I gave Sega too little credit, and then gave strangers on the internet the benefit of the doubt. A poisonous combination.
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Everyone is waiting for the Direct. I'm just sitting here, waiting for a firmware update that nets us some new avatar options.
Well, waiting for that, and for Metroid Dread, obviously.
Well, waiting for that, and for Metroid Dread, obviously.
I don't think anyone at Bamco is so delusional to expect actual MHW numbers (at least i hope so), but yeah, this game has "we want more than usual" written all over it.
That it would take more than just your run-of-the-mill Tales game with shinier graphics is something they should've considered during the planning phase.
SEGA: "Nintendo released a celebration game bundle running on an emulator? Pfftt, we can do just the same."
Narrator: "They couldn't."
Lol what. Sega really looked at 3D All-Stars and said "yeah, we can do worse".
I really think you're overgunning it here. They can pump more money into the game and expect increased returns without anticipating Monster Hunter World sales numbers.
I'm taking your word for it and picking it up this week.
Now - everyone go buy Chrono Cross and don't let it underperform so we can get a new game in the series.
I didn't mean ToA delays. I.meant all the big stuff that ended up skipping 2021.
I think that means that the people that were encountering problems were using an emulator. Not the game itself.
Every day, we move further from the bridge that could be a tunnel that could lead to a new Chrono game.
I suppose the one positive for Sega's approach is that because this game is presumably on sale for longer than 6 months, they might actually fix it.
Oh boo. That's way less interesting, but that makes sense.
I think it's more relative to what the series was already doing. MH went from selling 4-5m to selling over 15m.
I think Arise will be the best selling Tales game, but not by that degree...
Oh, I should have read that more closely lol. How was footage from an emulator some of the earliest we saw though?
Yeah, you're right, I probably misread. I just woke up, haha.
Kingdom Hearts IV - starring Chrono and Serge in a five second cameo. That's what we'll get.
We should laugh, but there is too much pain.
The fact that Sega fucked a Wii port up doesn't excuse the basic emulation in 3DAS. I mean, we're setting the bar pretty low if 3DAS is considered a good release
Dunno, but the tweet dude already confirmed he was using an emulator for the game
I mean, it wasn't the best thing but the problems with Sonic Colors Ultimate are just appaling.
There was a PS4 user that said that the game uninstalled on its own.
Whether we like it or not, 3D All Stars is a way better product.
I'm mimicking Nintendo's reaction, that's why I use quotes.
Has anybody used either of the Fitness Boxing games?
Full disclosure: I seem to have a chronic illness which makes exercise or any sustained physical activity difficult, because it triggers bouts of illness and fatigue and muscle and joint pain which can last hours or days. I'm looking to begin exercising (outside of daily dog walks) more consistently again, and already have and like Ring Fit, which I was going to boot back up tomorrow. But I thought it might be useful to swap out and use the more cardio orientated Fitness Boxing a couple of times a week, too, so that I could do 20 to 30 minutes a day 5 times a week and see how I manage that.
Full disclosure: I seem to have a chronic illness which makes exercise or any sustained physical activity difficult, because it triggers bouts of illness and fatigue and muscle and joint pain which can last hours or days. I'm looking to begin exercising (outside of daily dog walks) more consistently again, and already have and like Ring Fit, which I was going to boot back up tomorrow. But I thought it might be useful to swap out and use the more cardio orientated Fitness Boxing a couple of times a week, too, so that I could do 20 to 30 minutes a day 5 times a week and see how I manage that.
A Direct this week lines up with prior September patterns (or intended patterns in months when Directs were publicly delayed), would validate all of the exciting rumors that have erupted in the past few days, and would make me very happy when I'm feeling pretty down about life just two days away from my birthday (the long-predicted Direct date)
All good reasons why Nintendo would never dare do it :)
I know looking in patterns is absurd, but how many Direct has been in the same week as a game released?
I've used the second game a bit. It's decent and gets you working up a sweat, and it builds up rather than throwing you in at the deep end. You can do daily exercises that the game decides(a mix of the different exercises) or pick one set and do that. Biggest issue with the game is that the detection can seem a bit wonky on some of the more complex moves - uppercuts can be a bit finicky.
I own a PS5 since day one and Tales of Arise will be my first PS5 game lol.
I'm really excited about it!
I'll probably put them on the eShop wishlist and attempt to mentally force a 50% price cut so I can give one of them a go sometime.
Even if Tales of Arise succeeds commercially, does it really count if it doesn't make full use of PS/XB/PC hardware?
I rarely play in portable mode but I have a dock in every room with a TV so that makes playing in any room convenient and as a result I play more games on it.
The Sonic Colors debacle is so disappointing. I was gonna pick it up day one, but obviously I'm gonna hold off now, and as a Switch-only user I'll probably never get the game.
The main takeaway for me is that the hybrid console concept is definitely not a gimmick as 40% of the userbase thinking about the console not mainly as a handheld/desktop but as a hybrid.
I mean, it's not like MH wasn't a million seller in the west before World
Speaking about when the Direct could happen, a brief (maybe) analysis that touches on two points
1) the day of the week
Funnily enough, there's some consistency here when looking at major presentations and I have to thank MondoMega for noticing it; I don't understand the reason behind it, but there's a pattern that can be traced back by looking at the Directs of the Switch era
2017
Fire Emblem Direct January 18th, 2017 - Wednesday
Ninendo Direct April 12th, 2017 - Wednesday
Arms / Splatoon 2 Direct May 17th, 2017 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct June 6th, 2017 - Tuesday
Nintendo Spotlight: E3 2017 - Tuesday
Splatoon 2 Direct July 6th, 2017 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct September 13th, 2017 - Wednesday
Animal Crossing Pocket Camp Mobile Direct October 24th, 2017 - Tuesday
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Direct November 7th, 2017 - Tuesday
2018
Nintendo Direct Mini January 11th, 2018 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct March 8th, 2018 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct E3 2018 - Tuesday
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct August 8th, 2018 - Wednesday
Dragalia Lost Mobile Direct August 29th, 2018 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct September 6th / 13th, 2018 - Thursday
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct November 1st, 2018 - Thursday
2019
Nintendo Direct February 13th, 2019 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct February 27th, 2019 - Wednesday
Super Mario Maker 2 Direct May 15th, 2019 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct June 5th, 2019 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct E3 2019 - Tuesday
Nintendo Direct September 4th, 2019 - Wednesday
2020
Pokémon Direct January 9th, 2020 - Thursday
Animal Crossing: New Horizons Direct February 20th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini March 26th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase July 20th, 2020 - Monday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase August 26th, 2020 - Wednesday
Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary Direct September 3rd, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase September 17th, 2020 + Monster Hunter Direct September 17th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase October 28th, 2020 - Thursday
Super Nintendo World Direct December 18th, 2020 - Friday
2021
Nintendo Direct February 17th, 2021 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct: E3 2021 - Tuesday
Note: presentations that don't fall under the Direct brand (like the Indie Showcases / Indie World) and / or aren't aired across Europe / Americas / Asia at the same time aren't included. Pokémon Presents aren't included since The Pokémon Company handles them with more autonomy compared to the Pokémon Directs.
As you can see, outside of E3 where Nintendo constantly takes the Tuesday slot (and of course it's an event with other major parties involved), other general Directs tend to fall on the same day of the week: on Thursdays in even years, on Wednesdays in odd years. If we go by Nintendo's original planning before the pandemic really disrupted plans, the Direct Mini from March 2020 was aired on a Thursday and then we got several Partner Showcases in different days of the week (the first one aired on a freaking Monday!), but it's probably notable to see that the only Partner Showcase that was livestreamed instead of dropped out-of-nowhere happened, once again, on a Thursday. Also, starting from 2019 it looks like themed Directs were also aired in the same days as the general presentations, with the sole exception of the Super Nintendo World Direct.
2021 is an odd year, and February's Direct was indeed aired on a Wednesday. Thus, if Nintendo keeps on following their...weird patterns (seriously, why) the September Direct should be aired on a Wednesday as well.
2) when in September exactly
The February 2021 Direct was aired on February 17th, 2021. That's the date of the February 2019 Direct + 4. If Nintendo follows the same criteria, the September Direct should fall on September 8th, 2021. The first "full" September week, like the September 2019 Direct and the September 2018 one according to the original plans, before the delay caused by the earthquake. However, back in 2017, the Direct was aired in the second "full" week of September.
Also, let's look at when the Tokyo Games Show started the past few years
TGS 2017 - September 21st, 2017; 8 days after the Direct aired
TGS 2018 - September 20th, 2018; 14 days after the Direct was originally intended to be broadcasted
TGS 2019 - September 14th, 2019; 10 days after the Direct was aired
TGS 2020 started on September 23rd so one week after the Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcase September 2020 presentation...but 2020 was also a weird year with plans that changed a lot compared to the original intentions.
TGS 2021 will start on September 30th. Given the relatively late start of the event and considering how much Japanese third parties could try to tie their own reveals with the pre-TGS Direct, it's possible Nintendo and third parties are going with a slightly different schedule compared to 2018 (original) and 2019, that is the Direct is aired the second, if not the third "full" week of September.
3) how much the PlayStation Showcase matters for the Direct's stream date
Last year, Sony had their PS Showcase on September 16th. Several hours before the event, Nintendo announced the Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcase September 2020 for September 17th, 2020 and it was livestreamed not even 24 hours after the Sony event ended. They may not care that much but who knows.
...And yeah, in the end, Nintendo may say "fuck the patterns" and have the Direct on a Thursday, maybe even this week just right after the Sony event. Or they could just shadow-drop a Mini. Or it could be a Partner Showcase. Or... I mean, the latter two cases have very, very low chances of happening truth be told. But Nintendo can be both predictable and unpredictable at the same time.
1) the day of the week
Funnily enough, there's some consistency here when looking at major presentations and I have to thank MondoMega for noticing it; I don't understand the reason behind it, but there's a pattern that can be traced back by looking at the Directs of the Switch era
2017
Fire Emblem Direct January 18th, 2017 - Wednesday
Ninendo Direct April 12th, 2017 - Wednesday
Arms / Splatoon 2 Direct May 17th, 2017 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct June 6th, 2017 - Tuesday
Nintendo Spotlight: E3 2017 - Tuesday
Splatoon 2 Direct July 6th, 2017 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct September 13th, 2017 - Wednesday
Animal Crossing Pocket Camp Mobile Direct October 24th, 2017 - Tuesday
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Direct November 7th, 2017 - Tuesday
2018
Nintendo Direct Mini January 11th, 2018 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct March 8th, 2018 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct E3 2018 - Tuesday
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct August 8th, 2018 - Wednesday
Dragalia Lost Mobile Direct August 29th, 2018 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct September 6th / 13th, 2018 - Thursday
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct November 1st, 2018 - Thursday
2019
Nintendo Direct February 13th, 2019 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct February 27th, 2019 - Wednesday
Super Mario Maker 2 Direct May 15th, 2019 - Wednesday
Pokémon Direct June 5th, 2019 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct E3 2019 - Tuesday
Nintendo Direct September 4th, 2019 - Wednesday
2020
Pokémon Direct January 9th, 2020 - Thursday
Animal Crossing: New Horizons Direct February 20th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini March 26th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase July 20th, 2020 - Monday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase August 26th, 2020 - Wednesday
Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary Direct September 3rd, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase September 17th, 2020 + Monster Hunter Direct September 17th, 2020 - Thursday
Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase October 28th, 2020 - Thursday
Super Nintendo World Direct December 18th, 2020 - Friday
2021
Nintendo Direct February 17th, 2021 - Wednesday
Nintendo Direct: E3 2021 - Tuesday
Note: presentations that don't fall under the Direct brand (like the Indie Showcases / Indie World) and / or aren't aired across Europe / Americas / Asia at the same time aren't included. Pokémon Presents aren't included since The Pokémon Company handles them with more autonomy compared to the Pokémon Directs.
As you can see, outside of E3 where Nintendo constantly takes the Tuesday slot (and of course it's an event with other major parties involved), other general Directs tend to fall on the same day of the week: on Thursdays in even years, on Wednesdays in odd years. If we go by Nintendo's original planning before the pandemic really disrupted plans, the Direct Mini from March 2020 was aired on a Thursday and then we got several Partner Showcases in different days of the week (the first one aired on a freaking Monday!), but it's probably notable to see that the only Partner Showcase that was livestreamed instead of dropped out-of-nowhere happened, once again, on a Thursday. Also, starting from 2019 it looks like themed Directs were also aired in the same days as the general presentations, with the sole exception of the Super Nintendo World Direct.
2021 is an odd year, and February's Direct was indeed aired on a Wednesday. Thus, if Nintendo keeps on following their...weird patterns (seriously, why) the September Direct should be aired on a Wednesday as well.
2) when in September exactly
The February 2021 Direct was aired on February 17th, 2021. That's the date of the February 2019 Direct + 4. If Nintendo follows the same criteria, the September Direct should fall on September 8th, 2021. The first "full" September week, like the September 2019 Direct and the September 2018 one according to the original plans, before the delay caused by the earthquake. However, back in 2017, the Direct was aired in the second "full" week of September.
Also, let's look at when the Tokyo Games Show started the past few years
TGS 2017 - September 21st, 2017; 8 days after the Direct aired
TGS 2018 - September 20th, 2018; 14 days after the Direct was originally intended to be broadcasted
TGS 2019 - September 14th, 2019; 10 days after the Direct was aired
TGS 2020 started on September 23rd so one week after the Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcase September 2020 presentation...but 2020 was also a weird year with plans that changed a lot compared to the original intentions.
TGS 2021 will start on September 30th. Given the relatively late start of the event and considering how much Japanese third parties could try to tie their own reveals with the pre-TGS Direct, it's possible Nintendo and third parties are going with a slightly different schedule compared to 2018 (original) and 2019, that is the Direct is aired the second, if not the third "full" week of September.
3) how much the PlayStation Showcase matters for the Direct's stream date
Last year, Sony had their PS Showcase on September 16th. Several hours before the event, Nintendo announced the Nintendo Direct Mini Partner Showcase September 2020 for September 17th, 2020 and it was livestreamed not even 24 hours after the Sony event ended. They may not care that much but who knows.
...And yeah, in the end, Nintendo may say "fuck the patterns" and have the Direct on a Thursday, maybe even this week just right after the Sony event. Or they could just shadow-drop a Mini. Or it could be a Partner Showcase. Or... I mean, the latter two cases have very, very low chances of happening truth be told. But Nintendo can be both predictable and unpredictable at the same time.
Wait - how does that work for cross gen games?
Did you buy the separate docks?
Yup, people very much understand and appreciate the flexibility of the platform
Sshhh lets ignore the fact it was already successful and growing on 3DS.
Cross-gen games only count half, obviously. BotW is exempt from this because I learned on Era that the Wii U and the Switch are the same gen. 😏
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