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Nintendo Direct Speculation |OT4| The Sequel to OT3 is Now in Development.
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2017: BOTW
2021: BOTW2
2023: Ocarina of Time Remake Definitive Edition
2025: New 3D Zelda launch title for Switch 2
That means you're expecting Odyssey 2 to be revealed in this upcoming direct
Yep, pretty much this.
OOT is debatable though and could just as easily be TP, WW or SS.
I'm confused, why are we all now certain that BOTW2 wont make it till 2021?
Also the financial briefings said a new revision wouldn't make it till 2022, and with the increasing trajectory of their sell-through rate this year over last, 2021 would seem a bit early for such am iteration...
so like...where is this info coming from and why are we taking it seriously?
Also the financial briefings said a new revision wouldn't make it till 2022, and with the increasing trajectory of their sell-through rate this year over last, 2021 would seem a bit early for such am iteration...
so like...where is this info coming from and why are we taking it seriously?
Yes, but in the context of the handheld DS.
The fact they even mentioned it at all though...
It's just speculation and depending on the time of the day people think BotW2 is either 2020 or 2021. Check back later and we might be back to 2020.
People here tend to jump to negative conclusions based on flimsiest of evidence, don't pay attention to it.
I dont think much has changed really, as we've always collectively had BotW2 as a 2020/2021 release.
The general tone, language and reading between the lines, for me, suggests 2020 is leaning more casual/family with its tentpole titles. But who knows right?
It's on the slides from the investor meeting in black and white.
The context is talking about Wii and DS having dedicated types of games on them (Wii Fit, DS Nintendogs) but then that with Switch both of those experiences can sit on the same platform.
It is NOT saying Nintendogs is coming. However, with the Mario Kart team due a release this year (apparently) and then working on Nintendogs in the past... and Nintendos clear strategy to attract broader family audiences... I mean, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Sorry double post - thought it was moving faster.
Yeah, I didn't see the need for new hardware this year. Nintendo have a huge system-seller to end their current financial year and which will kick start their next financial year.
They must be confident in whatever software they have lined up for 2020 and early 2021 that it'll keep sales healthy. I could see either a new EPD title/reboot launching in June or 3D World, followed up with Zelda in November, and another major title in March. We could be looking at a new Nintendogs (or a new spin on that idea) as a major year-end title, too - but I don't think Nintendo will rest the entirety of the holiday on something like that. While the first game was a phenomenal success, it's not as proven a quantity as a Zelda or Mario, for example.
So while I can see something like Nintendogs being part of Nintendo's year-end plan, I think they'll have something else to go with it.
I don't think a hardware revision for 2021 is tied to Zelda at all. The hardware revision is reliant on the right parts being available in the right numbers, after all. If Zelda is ready to go this November, it will launch. One other thing Nintendo might do this year is a permanent or temporary price drop - the default Switch will go 3 years plus without a price cut, after all, and a correctly timed price cut is often as effective as launching a big game.
I need to read the full briefing myself (is it up in English?), but I think i saw a tweet about a wider variety of IP on Switch, which is good.
They must be confident in whatever software they have lined up for 2020 and early 2021 that it'll keep sales healthy. I could see either a new EPD title/reboot launching in June or 3D World, followed up with Zelda in November, and another major title in March. We could be looking at a new Nintendogs (or a new spin on that idea) as a major year-end title, too - but I don't think Nintendo will rest the entirety of the holiday on something like that. While the first game was a phenomenal success, it's not as proven a quantity as a Zelda or Mario, for example.
So while I can see something like Nintendogs being part of Nintendo's year-end plan, I think they'll have something else to go with it.
I don't think a hardware revision for 2021 is tied to Zelda at all. The hardware revision is reliant on the right parts being available in the right numbers, after all. If Zelda is ready to go this November, it will launch. One other thing Nintendo might do this year is a permanent or temporary price drop - the default Switch will go 3 years plus without a price cut, after all, and a correctly timed price cut is often as effective as launching a big game.
I need to read the full briefing myself (is it up in English?), but I think i saw a tweet about a wider variety of IP on Switch, which is good.
People are really thirsty for a Direct so any piece of news, even innocuous posts by the few insiders that still bother to frequent this thread, is dissected to the point of senselessness. It's how we got a month's worth of posts about how Nintendo absolutely will and has to do something in this instant right now.
I've mentioned it plenty of times, but it would be a dream of mine to see that "team" make something new.
They likely have ideas that wouldn't fit in the Zelda universe and it would be great to see what they could come up with.
This is a really pessimist view. No way Nintendo's biggest fall game is a WiiU remaster.
Yep, agree with this. A few additional thoughts too:
Animal Crossing is going to fly off the shelves and bring in a lot of new players and broaden the casual audience on Switch. Nintendogs is genuinely the perfect title to follow up with 6 months or so later.
BotW2 with a hardware revision makes too much sense. They dont need to launch it sooner, the sales figures on BotW are strong, as is the hardware.
Also, people forget Majoras Mask technically came after a revision too. That's not to say it's similar, or a rule, but you can just imagine the plethora of new ideas that development team generated when the sequel was greenlit. A bit of extra power to deliver it in full is not a big ask. N64 needed MM a heck of a lot more than Switch needs BotW2, too!
Alright, now consider a possibility.
What if Switch "Pro" literally doesn't exist?
You're placing way too much importance on a hypothetical hardware revision.
Cool cool. My siblings and I loved Nintendogs as kids. Would be a great addition to the platform for kids and pet fans. Though I feel like a mobile version would have a bigger impact.
I think the biggest tragedy of a 2021 botw2 is that it means there likely won't be a Zelda ready for the launch of Switch's successor. A Zelda game is demonstrably the best way to launch Nintendo hardware.
Its genuinely not meant to be pessimistic.
I'm talking about titles to drive install base - which is 100% Nintendos priority.
We will still have Metroid and Paper Mario - at least it seems - and I still expect some sort of Splatoon spin off, maybe a Mario sports game or maybe a DK. Bayonetta 3 has a good chance too, youd think.
Besides, BotW2 slipping out of 2020 is no more pessimistic than BotW2 being in 2020 is being optimistic! It's 50/50 at best?!
The notion of Nintendo delaying BotW 2 to coincide with a prospective Switch 2 seems like pure clownery to me. They would've developed this game with base hardware in mind and can always patch it later a la PS4 Pro and XBOX
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It would have been a great announcement for a Direct.
Seems that Nintendo wants to trickle info on NH instead of doing a dump of it in a direct, so my fears are that they won't do a direct until after animal crossing releases.
I don't get it.
"Yeah, BotW2 is definitely coming out in 2021."
I mean sorta do, but what's that item of clothing supposed to be?
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Wasn't that yesterday?
Either way, my point still stands. Why send it as a single announcement?
Iirc the Pokemon switches were first shown on a direct, why wasn't this one?
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the meeting was like 8 hours ago right after they revealed it. And Not everything has to be announced in a Direct. Last year for example, Nintendo tweeted out the release date of Yoshi's Crafted World and a few weeks later had a general direct that that announcement could've been in.
The pessimism is real.
And that is, even before the very first direct of the year, over data from the last quarter about excellent sales.
Success clearly means what's coming will be terrible.
The "no new hardware this year = doom" doesn't make one bit of a sense.
And that is, even before the very first direct of the year, over data from the last quarter about excellent sales.
Success clearly means what's coming will be terrible.
The "no new hardware this year = doom" doesn't make one bit of a sense.
"Yeah, BotW2 is definitely coming out in 2021."
Amazing.
I see it as 2020. Clearly.
The tone, language and reading between the lines suggests that the "Switch family of consoles" will grow. The mention of both DS and 3DS for context, in a meeting with investors, sets expectations too. Sure, it doesn't mean a PRO model - it could actually be simply a model where the Joy Con work properly...! It is very clear that revisions will come though, and I'd expect a variant with more power.
As you yourself note, a new Switch model could be a number of things.
I myself believe we'll see a more powerful Switch at some point, but in no way is it an absolute certainty. Tying it BotW 2 when it may not even be coming next year doesn't really sound that convincing to me.
Why BotW 2 in particular? Is it that inconceivable to imagine some other title fulfilling that role? Perhaps the hallowed Metroid Prime 4? That sure seems like a title that could gain something from being a showcase, as opposed to a mass-market title like BotW 2.
Hell, I'd argue any given "miracle port" coming out at the time would be a pretty good showcase to show off a Switch "Pro".
Exactly! I always thought the fairy tale setting of LoZ is limiting the devs, they need something fresh to outdo themselves.
But for some reason new IPs are not that popular around here.
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