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Most likely of these Mario games to appear in 2020?

  • Super Mario 3D World Port

    Votes: 484 73.9%
  • Super Mario Odyssey 2/Next 3D Mario

    Votes: 89 13.6%
  • Paper Mario 6

    Votes: 284 43.4%
  • Super Mario Party 2

    Votes: 113 17.3%
  • Mario Golf

    Votes: 120 18.3%
  • Mario Kart 9

    Votes: 57 8.7%

  • Total voters
    655
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MisterSpo

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I hope everyone who is saying March is jokin
No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.
 
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No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.

Damn this is accurate.
 

MusicProposition

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Have the frequency of Directs changed since a new president took over after Iwata? Might be the new guy doesn't believe that much in doing Directs, or more infrequently.

Strikes me as a change in management sort of difference. I would think they should have said something about the year by around now - or at least when they would be giving details.
I don't think that their management changed in that regard. Its just better to have less events with more to show. The quality of the Directs was much higher since Sep 2018 and Feb 2019, even if Sep 2019 was a little disappointing compared to the other two. I think they want to do 2 general directs and one e3 showcase, which is a good concept.
 

Quinton

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Midgar, With Love
No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.

This is beautiful.
 

Magic-Man

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No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.

Pretty much 😂
 

MaitreWakou

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You know what ? I could go with a new Nintendo Warriors game this year or next year.
Hopefully not Hyrule Warriors 2 or Fire Emblem Warriors 2 (even tho they expressed interest in making Fire Emblem Warriors 2)
Dreamland Warriors would be so dope.
 

Hoagmaster

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Oct 27, 2017
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No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.

Hit the nail on the head.
 

Josh5890

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, I think we're back to the Despair part of the cycle, where wanton negativity spreads for dozens of pages until people calm down.

Soon we'll get theories on how Nintendo are moving away from the Direct format; how 2020 is going to be a weak year; how Switch software support is actually worse than Wii U support; how Nintendo haven't shared any news whatsoever for months; how the first half is absolutely the worst first half in the history of first halves, and so on.

Then we'll get to cycle through the other Thread Stages, with universal concerns such as "What is the commercial appeal of Donkey Kong?", "Why must people always speculate/request/ruminate/desire an F Zero/Wave Race reboot?", "Why are all the Nintendo EPD games delayed?", "Won't the Switch successor launch in 2022 because I personally want a more powerful system?" and other classics. The topic I'm most looking forward to revisiting is the "Objectivity/Subjectivity Chestnut: Why A Nintendo Software Line-up I Personally Dislike Is Legitimately Equal To An Objectively Poor Software Release Schedule".

By the time we've run through all those hits, Nintendo might have announced a Direct.

Amen
 

b3llydrum

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Feb 21, 2018
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Definately a new audience coming in. There's gonna be a pretty considerable amount of gamers buying a Switch and Animal Crossing and nothing more :P Animal Crossing is big, no objections. It's not AC I have a beef with. It's the pacing of releases and lack of new games I cant get in line with.

Yes Q4 is close to 50% of yearly Nintendo sales and I buy what you are saying to leave the holiday titles some breathing room. But with no December game in 2019, this is making January and February this year seem even more dire.

As for the objective scale..

There's big sales and there's big sales. There's critically acclaimed and there's critically acclaimed.

Zelda BotW is the highest rated game of the decade and best selling Zelda game of all time and MK8DX is the highest rated Mario Kart game ever while pacing to hit MK wii typ numbers. This is a tall task for AC and Paper Mario to reach.. and I dont think it's fair to call that the same level of games. And this is no slight to them, it's just a steep competition. Especially since Paper Mario is such a wild card these day, what do we even get? :P

Clearly H1 this year would beat out 2018 and 2019 but not sure if that's an achievement as they've been poor. But as I said earlier, if there's another new game that's not a port or AC+PM.. I would re evaluate. Pacing is still poor as heck though.




I was just being silly, almost as silly as the release schedule the first 6 months of this year heeeeeeyoooo. hue hue

Not but seriously, rumored lineup for h1 2020 is not better than h1 2017. But who knows, rumors might not be true or H2 might be awesome! We'll see.

To be fair.... you're right, as of right this moment : P
 

Josh5890

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Oct 25, 2017
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You know what ? I could go with a new Nintendo Warriors game this year or next year.
Hopefully not Hyrule Warriors 2 or Fire Emblem Warriors 2 (even tho they expressed interest in making Fire Emblem Warriors 2)
Dreamland Warriors would be so dope.

Captain Falcon Warriors or Animal Crossing Warriors and I am there day 1.
 

ViperViking

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Jan 15, 2019
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Why should we doubt that a direct is coming February 6th or 13th? Fits in perfectly with their typical direct schedule(s) and would likely follow last year's February/E3/September pattern. We also definitely need more info on Animal Crossing before it's too close to release, and pre-orders still have not been opened in Japan. I know everyone's in panic mode because it's Tuesday with no announcement, but there was never going to be a direct this week.
 

Strat

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Apr 8, 2018
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They are just saving it for the direct, will still have over a month when they reveal stuff.
No shit. Their marketing for the game is dumb. People are out there try to decipher details from fucking stickers. They switched the official AC twitter over from Pocket Camp to New Horizons and went quiet for a month.
 

b3llydrum

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Feb 21, 2018
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This is actually getting dissapointing, almost 50 days until the game comes out and fans are so starved of content we're getting info from stickers. We know the same info about the core game as we knew in September essentially. At this point anything would be fine.

Fans aren't "starved" of content, people who get on forum threads just to wait are feeling starved of content
 

Bonejack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Think of it like this. March is the month AC is released. If anything, Nintendo wouldn't want a Direct with new (possibly good) stuff in there because March belongs to AC and AC only.

...

And Doom Eternal. But that's okay, they're friends.
 

Obsonet

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No shit. Their marketing for the game is dumb. People are out there try to decipher details from fucking stickers. They switched the official AC twitter over from Pocket Camp to New Horizons and went quiet for a month.

Eh not really dumb just they feel no need to talk about the game yet.
 

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You know what ? I could go with a new Nintendo Warriors game this year or next year.
Hopefully not Hyrule Warriors 2 or Fire Emblem Warriors 2 (even tho they expressed interest in making Fire Emblem Warriors 2)
Dreamland Warriors would be so dope.

Disaster: Day of Crisis Warriors

Think of the huge amount of big hamburgers we could have.
 

Dark Cloud

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No shit. Their marketing for the game is dumb. People are out there try to decipher details from fucking stickers. They switched the official AC twitter over from Pocket Camp to New Horizons and went quiet for a month.
Nah it won't be dumb. All it takes is one day of info and everyone is happy. They already know the game will sell 10+ million no problem. They're confident
 

mrfusticle

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I hope the Director gets to present the AC Direct with Nogami.. She's super cool and my missus is mildly fascinated by her.. the OCDers OCDer :D
 

Obsonet

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It won't be, but right now it is. We don't even know if there are hardware bundles or anything. I'm assuming at this point there aren't.

It still isn't right now, I doubt them saying things 1-2 weeks before they are is going to have an impact on sales.
They are leaving it a bit late if they do have an animal crossing switch though.
 

Strat

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It still isn't right now, I doubt them saying things 1-2 weeks before they are is going to have an impact on sales.
They are leaving it a bit late if they do have an animal crossing switch though.
Did I say they would have an impact on sales? No. I'm saying everything about the way they've handled AC from announcement until now has been weird and continues to be. That's literally it.
 

Obsonet

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Did I say they would have an impact on sales? No. I'm saying everything about the way they've handled AC from announcement until now has been weird and continues to be. That's literally it.

I don't see how it's weird though considering the ultimate goal is to sell as many copies of animal crossing as possible.
 

Strat

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I don't see how it's weird though considering the ultimate goal is to sell as many copies of animal crossing as possible.
It was announced with a logo. It wasn't revealed until E3, then they went radio silent on it. Nintendo is usually out there tweeting or dropping little videos non-stop about their big (and small) releases for months, but with Animal Crossing we've had zero new information since the brief E3 reveal and Treehouse segment. It's weird because it's not normally how they play their cards.

I also don't get why you keep bringing up sales, because I didn't say shit about sales even once.
 

Obsonet

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It was announced with a logo. It wasn't revealed until E3, then they went radio silent on it. Nintendo is usually out there tweeting or dropping little videos non-stop about their big (and small) releases for months, but with Animal Crossing we've had zero new information since the brief E3 reveal and Treehouse segment. It's weird because it's not normally how they play their cards.

I also don't get why you keep bringing up sales, because I didn't say shit about sales even once.

I know I'm just bringing it up because we are talking about marketing.
Wasn't Mario Maker similar? I feel like they didn't talk about the game much before the direct a month before.
 
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Phendrift

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Did it underperform?
I thought it was doing quite well but I don't keep up with sales numbers that much.
I mean it didn't sell badly, but I don't think it did as well as Nintendo wanted. NSMBU outsold it in December NPD, for example. Also think it missed the top 20 for the year, while NSMBU port made it.
 

MaitreWakou

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I know I'm just bringing it up because we are talking about marketing.
Wasn't Mario Maker similar? I feel like they didn't talk about the game much before the direct a month before.
Yeah but the marketing was criticized by multiple influencers and journalists.
I remember Jonneh recently saying it could had sold so much more, that Nintendo fucked up the marketing, they were too confident in it and while it sold very well, it could have sold so much more. It wasn't the phenomenon Nintendo wanted it to be.

I have no problem imagining that Animal Crossing will be fucking huge, and while it has a very large fan base... So far the marketing has been 100% aimed toward the fan base. People who aren't fans of Animal Crossing keep saying "what else could they show ?", people legit think there's nothing more in this game than what we've seen. I'm sure they'll market the game very hard soon enough, but maybe a bit more of marketing aimed toward people who aren't sold on Animal Crossing before february would have been good.
Do people who don't know Animal Crossing and that don't watch Direct really had the chance so far to know that this game exist and will release in like a month and a half ?

I think it's fair to criticize their marketing plan, even if it obviously suffered from the delay.
Nintendo have been incredible this gen in marketing, but for Super Mario Maker 2 and Animal Crossing imo.

I'm sure the marketing will be fine from now on, but I just think that they should had marketed the game a bit more toward people who aren't already sold on it.
 
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Phendrift

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I dunno if that shows it underperformed just that more people prefer a 2D Mario to a maker game.
Just checked the thread. In December MM2 was outsold by Pokemon, BotW, LA, NSMBU, LM3, Smash, Super Mario Party and even Ring Fit Adventure.

In 2019 it was outsold by new release Pokémon, LM3 and NSMBUDX as well as evergreens Smash and MK8D. It's not on the top 20 of the year.

I don't know, it just seems like they would've expected more from the game.
 
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