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Nintendo Direct Speculation |OT4| The Sequel to OT3 is Now in Development.
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I used to say all the time Color Splash had the best aesthetics and I wanted Paper Mario to follow it, but recently I looked back at the older games and I like those better. Idk it's just too "crafty" now that I think about it. That's not what Paper Mario is about. I'm not as big of a fan of the design from Color Splash like I used to be.
New mechanics for the sake of new mechanics doesn't always work out. We've had new mechanics for the majority of Paper Mario's tenure and fans have been largely critical of them (not that this translates to sales). The current hints are far too vague to elaborate on what "more of the same" means too. Metroid Fusion was "more of the same" for the most part, but included the sections where you have to hide from the X Parasite. The Metroid 2 remake had to keep things largely on par because of its remake status, but also included the parry system that shook combat up a little.
What would you classify as "new and exciting" in terms of changes? Just interested.
I'm not sure about Travis. I think they joked about it at the Game Awards because they legitimately are not sure if it will make 2020.
Yeah. I thought about putting that down for December, but I think if it's that late they'll hold it for 2021.
I'd guess a Detective Club game, Deadly Premonition 2, and Dragon Quest Heroes could be spread across May to September, with other things.
Samus Returns introduced quite a few new mechanics and that was a remake. I'm sure the next game will be even bolder.
Right. Then there's stuff we don't even know like new IP's, if the Mario Kart team will have a game or maybe the 3D Mario team could get a Captain Toad Treasure Tracker 2 out this year. It's so exciting. It's building up to this first direct!
I'll disagree here. TTYD looks great, but it also looks like they were limited by the tech at the time. Color Splash is the natural evolution of the paper aesthetic... imo of course.I used to say all the time Color Splash had the best aesthetics and I wanted Paper Mario to follow it, but recently I looked back at the older games and I like those better. Idk it's just too "crafty" now that I think about it. That's not what Paper Mario is about. I'm not as big of a fan of the design from Color Splash like I used to be.
On principle I won't switch my vote. Besides, we had two Directs this month so Team January are winning 2-0 ;-)
I don't know, something like Cappy, changes how you approach the game by adding options and movements. Or changes in the narrative structure, such as Three Houses.
Or Googi in LM3
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Hmmmm... well it's now January 2020 and no news... yet
Hmmmm... well it's now January 2020 and no news... yet
I understand. It's definitely a personal preference. I still like it. I just don't like it as much as I used too.
I agree that the newer games go too far into the Paper aesthetic. It's cute, but it feels like too much after awhile.I used to say all the time Color Splash had the best aesthetics and I wanted Paper Mario to follow it, but recently I looked back at the older games and I like those better. Idk it's just too "crafty" now that I think about it. That's not what Paper Mario is about. I'm not as big of a fan of the design from Color Splash like I used to be.
If we truly are getting a traditional Paper Mario next (PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE), then I hope it follows the style set by the first two games very faithfully, ie. a regular world, ala the Mushroom Kingdom (or maybe Sarasa Land this time) with minimal paper elements outside of Mario himself, and some random flourishes.
I've always been #TeamFebruary but there's still 2 weeks left in this month. I do see a lot of vote switching though.
I remember a lot of disappointment when 3DW was announced because ppl were looking for something more ambitious from the first HD Mario. Or maybe they just wanted something new.
Its been years since I played it but I remember it being a pretty 'safe' game.
I won't change my vote even if I'm wrong. Besides I can't change it in good conscience when we're getting an Animal Crossing direct this week and a general direct on the 30th. Just wait and see. You just gotta believe!
I don't want to set expectations crazy high (because I remember Other M), but new 2D Metroid is really interesting to think about. The last new entry was on the GBA, a system where the game design didn't move that far beyond what was possible on SNES.
Samus Returns had some good modern features, but was limited both by 3DS and the original linear design of Metroid 2, so whatever we get has the potential to be a big leap forward, if it's a new entry. I don't know what that'd look like, but presumably it does carry forward the Chozo story from Samus Returns. Maybe we can finally go to a new planet in the mainline series? That could allow for some interesting environments.
One thing I do hope they keep is the new Metroid logo from Samus Returns, I really like that.
Samus Returns had some good modern features, but was limited both by 3DS and the original linear design of Metroid 2, so whatever we get has the potential to be a big leap forward, if it's a new entry. I don't know what that'd look like, but presumably it does carry forward the Chozo story from Samus Returns. Maybe we can finally go to a new planet in the mainline series? That could allow for some interesting environments.
One thing I do hope they keep is the new Metroid logo from Samus Returns, I really like that.
I used to say all the time Color Splash had the best aesthetics and I wanted Paper Mario to follow it, but recently I looked back at the older games and I like those better. Idk it's just too "crafty" now that I think about it. That's not what Paper Mario is about. I'm not as big of a fan of the design from Color Splash like I used to be.
IMO the earlier Paper Mario games had the perfect balance of the crafty aesthetic and their own immersive world. Things being made of paper was only alluded to for the most part, whereas in Sticker Star and Color Splash it felt like they were regularly wink-wink nudge-nudging it, which sucked.
Though I'm one of the few people who finds the writing in Color Splash terrible in general so
I grew up on DKC and have always love it. I remember when DK64 came out and I was so disappointed that I didn't even bother to buy N64. Later I tried to get into the game on emulators and Wii U, but I just can't. I do feel that a new 3D DK(C) game, possibly by EPD, could be fantastic on Switch. I prefer we get more 2D DKCs, after Retro is done with MP4, but in the meantime it would be interesting to see a new 3D DK experience.
I hope this leads to a port of TTYD. IMO it remains one of the greatest games ever made and it deserves more people to give it a look.
I think it looks just fine. I find it odd to have Paper Mario being the only paper-y thing in the world.
Deadly Premonition 2 should be Nintendo's Shenmue 3. A niche game that won't sell or review that well but will most likely have a cult following.
(Except that at least DP2 will most likely tell a complete story).
(Except that at least DP2 will most likely tell a complete story).
"Worst nightmare" ?I get the feeling that the worst nightmare for most people here would be a TTYD remake with Color Splash's art style, lol.
Frankly, I would be delighted if we are getting an HD remaster of TTYD
The official product would look way better than this.I get the feeling that the worst nightmare for most people here would be a TTYD remake with Color Splash's art style, lol.
When FE X SMT was first announced people were expecting a different type of game. I doubt the game was going to be the "original vision" like people expected. It was probably always going to be like TMS is now.
I get the feeling that the worst nightmare for most people here would be a TTYD remake with Color Splash's art style, lol.
I think for me it's more the constant allusions to paper are annoying, and the fact puzzle solving usually involves immersion-breaking stuff that makes the world feel less cohesive. From what I remember in TTYD that was basically limited to the Mario transformations, which were outright stated to be abnormal and weird "curses" in-game.
Visually it looks fine, though the white borders are ugly and it can get a bit desaturated thanks to the harsh lighting
Statistically a direct happens at the start of a month (early to mid). But nothing prevent Nintendo of...being Nintendo a doing something different, like this year who could have predicted 2 specific directs in a row,..maybe this week we will have a AC direct and in early February a standard one ?
I firmly believed January was the month, but yes early February seems most likely, I just hope it will be worth the wait and not full of port/remakes, unless of course they want to port Mario Galaxy or Wind Waker HD !
I firmly believed January was the month, but yes early February seems most likely, I just hope it will be worth the wait and not full of port/remakes, unless of course they want to port Mario Galaxy or Wind Waker HD !
"Immersive breaking" is a game where Mario is made of paper, the game precisely plays with that to break the fourth wall and create puzzles and interesting comedy.
The design of the world of TTYD is much less imaginative for it. If you are going to make a game like TTYD, call it Mario RPG 2, use the Mario + Rabbids graphics and completely abandon the concept of Paper Mario.
Paper Mario had nothing to do with making a world of paper aesthetics. It's called Mario Story and was supposed to be Mario RPG 2...
Well, then do that. If not, it seems that "Paper" is just an excuse to save budget. Creates an unnecessary dissonance between artistic design and the game.
that was only the first game
it's been Paper ever since, and Paper it shall remain
I'm with you. The Color Splash aesthetic looks good for what it's going for, but it's not what I want in a traditional Paper Mario game.I used to say all the time Color Splash had the best aesthetics and I wanted Paper Mario to follow it, but recently I looked back at the older games and I like those better. Idk it's just too "crafty" now that I think about it. That's not what Paper Mario is about. I'm not as big of a fan of the design from Color Splash like I used to be.
I wonder why they started adopting more paper-related mechanics (such as the curses) when the second installment adopted the Paper prefix in Japan... 🤔🤔🤔
I mean, I'd say the world of TTYD with its wrestling arenas, murder mystery trains, and black-and-white forests is more imaginative than standard Mario-but-now-it's-paper
Sure they could pull it off without the paper aesthetic, and I wouldn't mind if they went that route, but it's a cute style that's cheap to produce and it looks nice. I don't think they have to lean into it as hard as they do, and it's gotten tired IMO.
don't you hate it when you're playing ttyd and your immersion is broken because every fight is on a stage?
it's like, there's no stakes at all since this is just a stage play
it's like, there's no stakes at all since this is just a stage play
Well I said the start. I never said after that. Of course they started running with it more and now it's at the point to like "hey look at our cool world. Just focus on the cool Paper world and not the no patterns, no real rpg, no badges, etc!"
Like I said I'm not in love with it as I used to be. If they go with the artstyle for this next Paper Mario idc. I just want the gameplay and want Paper Mario used to be. The look of the world is one of my least cared about things in a Paper Mario game.
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