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I would not argue with someone who called Prime 2 the best prime game. It's one of the best designed games ever.
Here is one of the first threads I ever made
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Appreciation Thread
Launched in the back half of the Gamecube’s life, under the shadow of Halo 2, and wedged as the second game in a trilogy between one of Nintendo’s most innovative and greatest games of all time and one of the earliest demonstrations of the Wii’s revolutionary control scheme - is one of the...
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Glad to hear you loved Corruption... Its my favorite of the bunch. They're all amazing though.
Check your activity log. They're all much longer than the in game clock would have you believe.
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Yes my child, go with Geoff. In the name of the father, the son and the Summer Game Fest.
Despite owning an N64 growing up, we did not have Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Banjo Kazooie, or Majora's Mask. There are people that don't have the most sought after games.
Why not:
In the name of The Game Awards, the Summer Game Fest and the World Premiere.
Ah, those days where Direct rumors start ramping up until the Direct is actually announced and everyone loses their minds. I live for this shit.
I would not argue with someone who called Prime 2 the best prime game. It's one of the best designed games ever.
Here is one of the first threads I ever made
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Appreciation Thread
Launched in the back half of the Gamecube’s life, under the shadow of Halo 2, and wedged as the second game in a trilogy between one of Nintendo’s most innovative and greatest games of all time and one of the earliest demonstrations of the Wii’s revolutionary control scheme - is one of the...
Good to be among likeminded people with good tastes :)
The 64 version released in 96 and the DS version released in 2004. There are a lot of people who haven't touched any of the games rumored to be in collection.there is someone who hasn't played mario 64?!
Hell yeah! And I'll get to play it on what may well have become my all-time favorite console, too. Hashtag blessed.
Hey, I hope you enjoy Mario 64 as much as I did! I only played it for the first time recently myself, got it on it on VC last year and just beat it in May.
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The game is harder than MP1 and MP3, but still very enjoyable, a great game
I wish I could play Mario 64 for the first time again. Such a wonderful experience that I had as a kid.
I'm glad that you're getting to experience it for the first time.
I won't go into details as you haven't played them yet but imo, the reason why Prime 2 is often called the worst of the trilogy is because it's a game designed with so much back and forth from the start and, doesn't become a really fun experience until you reach a certain point in the game where the environment/world design doesn't work against you.
I personally think that once you get past that point, it becomes clear the game does execute its core idea pretty well but yeah, it takes some time and effort to get there, unlike the first Prime and Prime 3 which have a more clear/straightforward design.
Nowadays I wouldn't call Prime 2 a bad game but it certainly took a different approach compared to the other 2.
Dark Aether's "oppression" is more psychological than anything and some players just dealt with it wrong. People see that they're taking damage and immediately go on the defensive, taking it slowly and waiting in the safe bubbles to heal, but that just makes it boring and more stressful. The way I saw it was that Dark Aether was somewhere you didn't want to be, so I moved quickly between safe spots and took advantage of the plethora of health pick ups. I was never there for longer than I needed to be (while still taking time for expansions/tanks) and the game was more exciting and better paced for it.
Echoes is closer to a pure Metroid experience, and for that reason I tend to see conflicting opinions between it and 3. It's largely a harder MP1, though with less backtracking and more straightforward directions (except when it's not, and the whiplash of that can be really frustrating).
Personally, I think MP2 can be difficult or confusing to the point of frustration on a first playthrough (especially with hints off). If you like to play Metroid games more than once, however, it holds its value better than most, and the first playthrough is still overall a positive experience.
MP3 is too focused cinematics and story to spend much time being a real Metroidvania, which alienated some fans. It largely achieves what it set out to, though, and has the most engaging combat of the three.
I prefer 1 to both lol.
I've played all of these since, but yeah, I had an N64 as a kid for Pokemon. Snap and Stadium were basically all I needed lol.
She can't back up stuff with certainty when she's a fraud. If it doesn't matter, we shouldn't bring her up again.
Hahaha, same for us except for Snap. Our house was basically all Pokémon Stadium 1 & 2, GoldenEye 64, Battletanks, and Bomberman 64.
Trials of Mana seems like a much more sensible comparison than nier replicant imo. Chrono Cross would be created with a remake like Trials I think.
My predictions:
2020:
August: Pikmin 3
September: Mario 3D All-stars
October: Another Kirby, casual game new IP from RingFit people
November: 3D World
December: NA
2021:
Q1 2021: Pokemon Snap 2, Twilight Princess or Wind Waker port,
Q2 2021: Wario Ware Switch, new multiplayer IP from Arms developer, Metroid 5.
Q3 2021: Pikmin 4, casual game new IP or Wii Sports Switch, Detective Pikachu 2
Q4 2021: Mario Odyssey 2, Super Mario Party 2, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
2022: BotW2, Bayonetta 3, new 2D Mario, Xenoblade 3, Pokemon Unite, Pokemon Gen 9, obviously more stuff (Mario Strikers 2, more Fire Emblem?)
2023: Prime 4 and the Switch 2.
Getting skeptical of Metroid 5 happening but I have to put it on here to hope... Conflicted.
2020:
August: Pikmin 3
September: Mario 3D All-stars
October: Another Kirby, casual game new IP from RingFit people
November: 3D World
December: NA
2021:
Q1 2021: Pokemon Snap 2, Twilight Princess or Wind Waker port,
Q2 2021: Wario Ware Switch, new multiplayer IP from Arms developer, Metroid 5.
Q3 2021: Pikmin 4, casual game new IP or Wii Sports Switch, Detective Pikachu 2
Q4 2021: Mario Odyssey 2, Super Mario Party 2, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
2022: BotW2, Bayonetta 3, new 2D Mario, Xenoblade 3, Pokemon Unite, Pokemon Gen 9, obviously more stuff (Mario Strikers 2, more Fire Emblem?)
2023: Prime 4 and the Switch 2.
Getting skeptical of Metroid 5 happening but I have to put it on here to hope... Conflicted.
Chrono Cross as a very low budget remake doesn't make a lot of sense. This was a highly subversive, very ambitious, extremely high budget and experimental sequel to one of the most beloved RPGs of all time.
I highly doubt it, unless Nintendo is fine now with announcing a game a month or less before the release.
A 2020 H2 with only ports/remasters and a casual game sounds really depressing.
Wow going full pessimistic I see. I expect both for 2021 tbh.
This I can see.
I'm really curious about Metroid Prime 4. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are master classes of immersive gameplay and world atmosphere, but now that Nintendo has the weakest hardware by far and that lots of other games have tried the same thing, I'm really curious about how they will make Prime 4 an appealing game.
Cool to see Metroid Prime 2 getting some well deserved love. That game got a lot of flack at first, but I fear a lot of people back then didn't really play past a certain point.
I have to admit though, the beginning of the game feels like a copy paste of Prime with a Dark World attached to it. That made it very familiar and dejavu like. Agon Wastes was boring and Amorbis had a lot in common with Flaagrah. It isn't untill Torvus Bog and the Boostball Guardian when everything starts picking up.
After that the game becomes fantastic.
I have to admit though, the beginning of the game feels like a copy paste of Prime with a Dark World attached to it. That made it very familiar and dejavu like. Agon Wastes was boring and Amorbis had a lot in common with Flaagrah. It isn't untill Torvus Bog and the Boostball Guardian when everything starts picking up.
After that the game becomes fantastic.
Nailing progression and level design. Prime and Prime 2 are best in class and even after all these years no other 3D metroidvania are better than them.
well a next gen Switch in 2023 should be about as powerful as a current gen console, with the added bonus of a modern architecture, a far better CPU and likely virtually no load time via new HD standards.
Assuming it's targeting 720p again Nintendo should be able to make virtually any game they can imagine.
an added bonus may be if battery tech has advanced (thanks Tesla) you might be able to get days of battery life or a higher clocks
This is true, I'm not worried about the gameplay quality, but the "immersive" feeling has been always a Metroid thing, and tech is a part of this. The NGC was quite powerful and both Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were good-looking games for the time, and while it wasn't the same for Metroid Prime 3, we were early in the HD so the game never looked too outdated.
I agree that delaying the game to be a launch title for the next system makes sense, this way they can show the new hardware capabilities with a game that is more tech-oriented that the average Nintendo game.
You could say the same about Mana 3.
Cross is a game people either hate or love, Mana 3 everyone always really liked.
Immersion has a lot to do with art design, sound design and story telling. I wouldn't worry about it. I think Super Metroid is one of the most immersive games even to this day and it runs on SNES hardware.
They won't make Prime 4 exclusive for a next generation Switch and forget about a potential 100M userbase by then...
I don't think Mana 3 SNES is remotely close to as high budget as Chrono Cross on the PS1. I don't know the context of the Mana series so I don't know how ambitious or subversive Mana 3 is for the series.
Same! I actually haven't played Majora's Mask or Banjo-Kazooie yet, but I plan on playing both of them sometime in the next year or two (I have MM on the Wii Virtual Console, and BK through Rare Replay). But yeah the 64 was almost entirely for Pokemon Stadium 1-2/Snap/Hey You Pikachu/Smash 64.
Mana 3 is one the greatest tecnical feat on the snes with Star Ocean, it was not cheap, on graphic is much better then CT and FFVI
Agreed, but doing the same for a 3D game is far more difficult. I mean, re-playing Prime 1 now is a good experience but there's lots of ugly textures and low-poly models that break some of the immersion, in comparison Super has aged far better.
I suppose this highly depends on the development progress. If the game will be ready for a year or so before Switch 2, they'll release it for the Switch and maybe improve it for the new system, but Nintendo is not known for releasing their big games during the last months of the system cycle, the most notable exceptions are the Zelda games that have been delayed to be on 2 systems at launch day, but being Metroid a smaller series I don't know if they will make the same move.
To me it makes more sense to release it during the first year of the new Nintendo gen, and release Prime Trilogy on 2021-2022 to make players interested, if the new console is retro-compatible (it will be) it also serves to have all the games available on the same system.
Of course, this also depends on Nintendo's plans for the next gen and how they'll tackle the use of Switch games on the new system.
you've still got another week to go buddy lol hopefully you can find yourself a decent sleep schedule
I don't think so, there's no way Monolith will release 2 new versions of Xenoblade games during a period this short, it also can burn them as they recently finished XC DE. Next Monolith game will be new (they are also working in BotW 2), and I think they are working now in 2 new games, so X seems a thing they may do in a few years.
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