I mean.... Sounds like he's grown as a person? Idk why we are giving him shit for doing the right thing. Hold the negativity for the times to use em.
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Ninja warns content creators against spreading negativity and nonconstructive criticism on social media.
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The man that drops the n bomb and refuses to admit he's wrong and then refuses to stream with women because his fans are too toxic. The bar must be so low it's underground.
If you aren't morally pure and have done the opposite of what you're preaching in the past, anything of value that you say is apparently bullshit to some folks.
It's unfortunately the kind of content that gets the most views and hits. Even such threads on ERA are the ones that get most participation. Mostly because it has people just yelling at each other.
Yeah, this message is true. The messenger (Ninja) is flawed, and guilty of doing the things he says to not do. But this doesn't make this point less true.
No you got it all wrong.
It's not that Ninja won't play with women. It's that he won't play with women that won't give him some sort a career boost, for example he offered to play with Lady Gaga.
Seriously though Ninja is a hypocrite.
Era took this the right way for once.
But man, it kinda suck to bea content creator because you can't be mindless about a game in public.
But man, it kinda suck to bea content creator because you can't be mindless about a game in public.
Just gonna say this. Gamers are simply fucking miserable people. Era is one of the worst, no doubt. I find it depressing and fascinating how rabid forum dwellers and those on social media are to literally shit on their favorite hobby. At every. Single. Turn. One of the strangest phenomina.
Dude makes a banging ass life as millionaire from playing video games for a living and inspired many, many others to travel the same road. My mans legit feeding his family from this.
Whatchu say,?
I don't watch him, but I tend to gravitate towards streamers that has a positive vibe and community. Negative streamers tend to draw negative communities
Why would you ever want to be mindless about anything, in public or in private? That sounds like a very undesirable state to function in. Careless and thoughtless.
Agree, he really seem to have grown as a person since his last week's tweet of nonconstructive criticism hot take about NFL Kickers, and the way he reacted to being corrected about it.
I hear what you're saying, but I can't take life advice from a grownass man who literally doesn't know how to slice bread.
The gaming community in general thrives too much on negativity. By way of example, "Most disappointing games of 2019" as an end of year list is utter click bait and really doesn't help anybody (although I'm sure someone will defend that with some nonsense about "learning from failures"...)
Nobody hates games more than gamers, apparently.
Nobody hates games more than gamers, apparently.
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It was because he's married and didn't feel comfortable doing so...nothing wrong with it at all.
In the UK on the BBC we have a consumer rights programme called Watchdog, it's important in highlighting business malpractice and it holds them to account- this is journalism.
With gaming there are some YouTubers who perform a similar role because they do not blindly accept press statements, many of the larger websites is too close the companies they report on.
Yes some YouTubers presentation style is very shouty or angry, and that can draw attention, as viewers we can decide who we want to watch - or who we don't. But they are an absolutely essential part of the gaming eco-system, and if people or companies try and stop them from being heard it's because they don't like what they have to say.
When Xbox One was fully revealed at E3 in 2013 it was the YouTube community that spoke up the loudest while some shill sites swallowed the anti- consumer PR crap. Angry Joe's interview with Major Nelson is a great example of this. Some people now would say they are 'toxic'. But I say they spoke up and represented the voices of the public, this pushed Microsoft into revising their product and Xbox is now a far better product because of it and both MS and the public benefit because of it.
With gaming there are some YouTubers who perform a similar role because they do not blindly accept press statements, many of the larger websites is too close the companies they report on.
Yes some YouTubers presentation style is very shouty or angry, and that can draw attention, as viewers we can decide who we want to watch - or who we don't. But they are an absolutely essential part of the gaming eco-system, and if people or companies try and stop them from being heard it's because they don't like what they have to say.
When Xbox One was fully revealed at E3 in 2013 it was the YouTube community that spoke up the loudest while some shill sites swallowed the anti- consumer PR crap. Angry Joe's interview with Major Nelson is a great example of this. Some people now would say they are 'toxic'. But I say they spoke up and represented the voices of the public, this pushed Microsoft into revising their product and Xbox is now a far better product because of it and both MS and the public benefit because of it.
It's hard to not be negative with all the rubbish aaa games pull these days. I hated the wheelspin stuff in fh3 but put up with it because I guess even 5k cash had a use. It's not a lie when I saw my first wheelspin in forza horizons 4 roll up a shirt......... I quit and never went back, im playing a car game not the bloody sims.
I guess I can see why people might be trying to burn it all down and why people watch these people. If they are getting so popular that this guy is trying to beat them down there must be alot of people unhappy with where their hobby is currently.
I guess I can see why people might be trying to burn it all down and why people watch these people. If they are getting so popular that this guy is trying to beat them down there must be alot of people unhappy with where their hobby is currently.
Already happened right from the start. :/
I agree with him. Same goes for us at the boards. Honestly, we're the worst and we're all guilty of it. It's so lazy to just be cranky and nothing good comes from it unless there is well thoughtout constructive criticism coming as well, which there rarely is. More positiveness and excitement would make the world a better place.
Now I'm off to play more of the awesome The C64!
That anyone took anything of value from that video (especially all the verified folks in the this thread) is a fucking joke. Laughable, shameful shit. No one owes game developers and certainly not the big ones anything.
Well put. The industry puts out so many unpolished, borderline broken titles that people have somehow come to accept this as the norm. Waiting for a patch has become the standard at launch - when you just paid full price for some broken shit the publisher deemed fit for release due to their own financial interests. Just look at Jedi Fallen Order, such a big and well loved franchise and the publisher just farts out an unfinished mess while charging full price.
It's OK to be angry and rant about these things. People should be angry and rant about these things. Parts of this industry are completely rotten and it needs to be called out all the time.
Fuck the shill sites and streamers who just want people to be quiet and eat this shit up.
Thank god for consumer advocate youtubers, what ever did we do before they came along.
People turned on the xbone because there was a far less egregious alternative in the PS4 not because AJ did an interview.
Keeping people informed is a good thing. Outrage merchants on the other hand do far more harm than good.
What harm do they do? To people who buy and play video games?
Honestly. Yeah. Especially during press conferences of posters making fun of announcers being "cringey". Just Era things.
What good do they do?
In the grand scheme of things to the people who buy and play videogames?
Definitely a tweet directed at some of the younger and vocal (competitive/professional) Fortnite players.
But applies to other multiplayer focused titles as well. Whether it is CoD or R6.
Constructive feedback > "LaZy DeVs" or hounding Epic Games' and Infinity Ward's social media team to "fix" the game.
But applies to other multiplayer focused titles as well. Whether it is CoD or R6.
Constructive feedback > "LaZy DeVs" or hounding Epic Games' and Infinity Ward's social media team to "fix" the game.
Theres always different factors involved depending on the situation, but generally speaking, if you have a choice to say something in the vein of "this fucking sucks" and not much else, or come with more contructive criticism, saying what you find bad and what you want to change/improve, what would you choose? This isnt just for games (Ninja also pointed that out).
I don't know if you've realised this but game developers are people too.
No, just don't be a cunt. Something that a lot of people across the internet, including plenty of people on Era could learn.
The fact you think asking people to be constructive with their criticism is telling them to be a shill says it all lol
Don't know why some of y'all don't seem to view us game developers as people.
He's just gaming's Justin Bieber. Everybody hated and bullied him for years but eventually started to like him and now love him.
Sometimes i think era is hypocritical. If somebody is doing something bad & comtinues to do so and it got called out, sure.
But ninja is saying something positive and got called out too for?
I don't know whether he is genuine or not but if a person attempts to change for the good (even if it's on the surface level), isnt it better than not even attempting to change for the better at all (aka logan paul).
Sometimes i dont understand what some of u guys want or stand for other than having a villain to hate and dump on to make yourself feel like the better person (or something)
But ninja is saying something positive and got called out too for?
I don't know whether he is genuine or not but if a person attempts to change for the good (even if it's on the surface level), isnt it better than not even attempting to change for the better at all (aka logan paul).
Sometimes i dont understand what some of u guys want or stand for other than having a villain to hate and dump on to make yourself feel like the better person (or something)
He is not wrong. Not saying that making critcism is bad, but a lot of content creators overact their rage for views and the gaming commutity is overall pretty negative.
That's one of the reasons why I enjoy Easy A, they make criticism when it is needed, but they treat bad games like what they are, just a bad product, they arent overdramatic and act as if the world is about to end...
I want my hobby to be positive force in my life and not a whirlpool of negativity.
That's one of the reasons why I enjoy Easy A, they make criticism when it is needed, but they treat bad games like what they are, just a bad product, they arent overdramatic and act as if the world is about to end...
I want my hobby to be positive force in my life and not a whirlpool of negativity.
Why? Harassing a developer cause their game sucks? Yeah okay that's bad. But writing that Call of Duty is shit on Twitter of all places instead of writing some nested tweet storm of an essay explaining in great detail using your middle school level prose why it sucks? Give me a break. Not gonna happen and it doesn't have to. You are not here as a person to create perfect justifications of your opinions for everyone to "consume". Either as an individual or a "content creator". Whatever the fuck that actually means. Do I want to read injustified opinions? Doesn't matter. What people like Ninja are calling for is not getting rid of the "rage screaming man baby who screams at shitty games that don't matter". What this is is a millionaire moron who just woke up one day after getting roasted on Twitter for saying something stupid or being called a sellout and thought "boy would it be nice if people weren't mean to me? I would like to play this video game without people claiming I'm a shill which I am but man does it feel bad". He is playing for the other team and you all fall for it.
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He isn't wrong but I guess people want to post 3 year old footage of him screaming at a kid as a "Gotcha". I don't like his content or him, but come on. That is like the only video people keep posting. With stardom comes new perspective. Have people never heard of people growing?
What is "why?" referring to? Honest question. Do you mean why i asked you that question? If so, i was just wondering which approach you would prefer to take since you said it was a fucking joke to take an advice of trying to be more positive than negative on the topic of giving feedback on games. I dont see anything wrong with trying to be more positive than negative in that regards. And as mention, i'm more generally speaking. Theres always some different factors depending on the situation, so every case might not be exactly the same.
One doesnt have to write an essay to give constructive criticism (yeah, i know you meant it as hyperbole, i'm just saying that giving constructive criticism doesnt necessary require a ton of work).
You're right that everyone wont do this though. Otherwise, its just one guy's (Ninja) opinion about it.
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Saw your edit now. I dont think this has much to do with this to be honest. I mean, hasnt the guy been roasted for quite some time now? And one dont have to be playing for any specific team to want to be more positive than negative either.
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My favorite is when any Japanese person comes on stage in a press conference. Immediate "cringeeeeeeeee" spam. Literally just because they are not American
He's telling his fellow streamers to sugar coat things they don't like in a constructive manner, because it's potentially bad for business.
In an age of paid content creators pushing products that's his message. He's not asking people in general to be better.
If he's unwilling to do normal things because people will judge him and assume his intentions, then he should get the hell away from cameras and media. that's a narcissistic complex that's going to come back and bite him very severely in the future.
Because games are not something everyone should worry about. Make sense for those who make their living from it, but not for the ones who simply use it as entertainment. For those, thinking about games is bigger waste if time than the simple act of playing it.
No you got it all wrong.
He long since changed his stance and has played with groups of women and hosted many others. This all happened way before the lady Gaga thing.
