ND's animation team utilizes full performance capture that is cleaned up and iterated on just like NT's titles. The way people always prop ND up as a studio with a unique workflow as if every studio just uses raw mocap data reminds me of the time gamers discovered the concept of frustum culling due to this:
and attributed it as a unique aspect of Decima.
This isn't how it works.
You are literally describing the exact same thing that's done for characters with 1:1 likeness and again, appearance does not matter, the complexity of the rig does.
You quite genuinely have no idea how any of this works. A digital double does not inherently mean less cleanup, and iterating
None of the characters in DmC or Enslaved looked like the actors playing them past vague similarities in the former.
Everything but Hellblade, which features a single character with everyone else straight up being live action, are the outliers. The majority of NT's work includes a majority of stylized characters with Andy Serkis in Enslaved being the one exception. Literally one of the main points of the technology is that, given the quality of the rigs in huge budget or even smaller budget games, whether or not the performer looks exactly like the character is not a relevant factor. They still do a ton of work to bring the character to life. On top of this, this isn't even a factor, given that ND has had less and less stylized characters in their games. The only reason Joel, Ellie, and Tommy aren't as photorealistic as the ret of the cast who're all digital doubles is because they already existed. Which was again, already a thing in Uncharted 4.
Of course but it's still not gameplay. Scripted stuff always looks better. NT is top heap when it comes to graphics, so I'm sure they'll reach this goal and surpass it really. But can't knock ppl for not being impressed until they see what it's like when you actually have a controller in your hand.
I am just going to say that your line of argumentation is completely devaluing the amount of time actual animators and technical artists invest into cleaning up, rigging, and iterating on motion capture data.
You clearly aren't reading my posts.
You were an animation major and you're essentially arguing that NT just slaps the data onto a model without lots and lots of heavy adjustment and iteration. Like, are you even familiar with the results that ND gets before animators get into it, how they create characters, or the quality of their rigs?
You clearly aren't reading my posts.
You were an animation major and you're essentially arguing that NT just slaps the data onto a model without lots and lots of heavy adjustment and iteration. Like, are you even familiar with the results that ND gets before animators get into it or the quality of their rigs?
Why are you arguing that ND needs to do more hand animation than other studios because the characters don't look like the actors?
ND had a larger cast to work with than Hellblade yes, thank you for this observation. However, that has no bearing on the amount of work that had to go into making Senua look so convincing. They don't just "attach" it to the digital double in the way that you're describing. Both studios have to do a metric fuckton of cleanup and iteration. Whether or not the character looks like the actor is not a factor and thus there's no point in pointing out that ND's games have some characters that aren't digital doubles of the people playing them, let alone such a factor that ND has this unique process where they require a more hands on approach than other studios.
Yeah... that's just...
To expand on this, it was annoying and cringy AF when people kept shitting up Fallen Order threads because Debra Wilson's character didn't look as attractive as she does irl with makeup and that they messed up her and/or stylized despite it being a digital double. 🙄
Hellblade already has more convincing animation quality in cinematics than both of ND's games this gen. Like, just the fact that NT had the confidence to conclude hellblade on
This is literally what ND does in their current games. They proved him right as they now capture face, voice, and body at the same time instead of just using video reference to solely keyframe facial animation.
Because facts and objectively correct opinions aren't needed here on Era. Right champ? Wonder what the narrative would be if this was multi platform or Sony exclusive. Lol.
Lmao bruh go watch a video of someone speaking that devil music and come back to me. That's entirely what it would look like. This shit is facial motion capture, it just doesn't come out of thin air
