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Ninja Theory sets a new benchmark in video game animation
- Thread starter Oggmeiler
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Facial animation is not impressive to me. La noire nailed that 15 years ago. it's gameplay animation where we need disruption. That's where games suddenly become games again, all clunk and no realism.
Cherry picked a little bit, the gameplay model of Senua looks real bad on switch. It only matches up when they use the cutscene model.
Didn't LA Noire use video capturing for most of the facial animations and it was just an FMV overlay on the character faces...not exactly animation if so. Still the end result is similar.
My point is that I don't doubt that Hellblade 2 gameplay can look exactly like this in-engine footage, but until I see real gameplay, I will never truly believe.
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I fucking love that they showed such a dark game/trailer as the first game (unless we count Halo).
It really gets me excited how other next gen games will look.
Did anybody else think of RE4 a little bit when seeing it too? Imagine an RE4 remake that looks like that. *wipes sweat*
It really gets me excited how other next gen games will look.
Did anybody else think of RE4 a little bit when seeing it too? Imagine an RE4 remake that looks like that. *wipes sweat*
But we can agree that what they have shown us here is great, right?
Because, damn, it looks great to me.
Given that we haven't seen actual gameplay, I can't support OP's opening statement.
Why? Because games like Assassin's Creed has "set the benchmark" in numerous times via numerous entries to the series Only for the actual gameplay to be completely different.. Shit, I remember at the start of this gen most were convinced that this was the next gen benchmark... Until gameplay hit.
So yeah, gameplay over target/in engine/cgi before we have that conversation.
Why? Because games like Assassin's Creed has "set the benchmark" in numerous times via numerous entries to the series Only for the actual gameplay to be completely different.. Shit, I remember at the start of this gen most were convinced that this was the next gen benchmark... Until gameplay hit.
So yeah, gameplay over target/in engine/cgi before we have that conversation.
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If it's pre rendered in-engine, it's great. It is real time, it's amazing.
Gamespot confirmed it's running in real time.
Correct, though the models themselves did animate, all the small detail, eye movements, skin deformation, etc were video files projected on the model, more or less
I think it says more about the players. More of you all need to play Ninja Theory games.
(man, I'm still bitter Enslaved didn't get the sales or sequel it deserved).
Then they should have said that somewhere in the vídeo and not just in-engine.
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It's my understanding that performance capture tech for games is well above what we are able to render in real time. This is the kind of stuff I'm really excited to see more of as far as next gen tech goes.
I want to hold off on that until i see someone playing the game with a controller. They say its in engine, and i want to believe them, but it looks so good that part of me is convinced that it is cg.
On a side note, i cant wait to see how capcom pushes the rE engine on these machines
On a side note, i cant wait to see how capcom pushes the rE engine on these machines
I haven't played the first game, but I followed a lot of the PC screenshots and videos for high end setups for that game and it is actually really beautiful with great animations already. I don't normally buy too much into the in engine stuff, but they did an insane job with a small team already graphically so I'm kind of expecting it to just look something similar to this considering the areas aren't like super open and its probably gunna target 30 fps lol. It will definitely have a different look in combat due to how the camera is going to be positioned and what you need to render, but I think during the prescripted stuff it will look very impressive even if not exactly the same here I don't expect it to be some far off thing at all. Just like with Last of Us II, I expected it to look as good as what they were showing or around that considering these super narrative driven games are very linear, have small counts of models on screen, and have very controlled preset scenes optimized for visual immersion. If this was some open world non linear Monster Hunter or GTA kind of game, I wouldn't believe it for a second lol.
Gameplay was the weak part of the first Hellblade.
I need to see some real gameplay.. motion capture in engine always looks amazing on most AAA games.
I need to see some real gameplay.. motion capture in engine always looks amazing on most AAA games.
Looking at it again, I would even say there's nothing that really stands out about it. I would say Last of Us 2 is by far more impressive and unbelievable, because of the gameplay sections that were shown. I think it looks polished though, but there's a lot of hype infused in these opinions just for being next-gen.
Nope, the combat was incredibly shallow and the puzzles were so boring and repetitive. It was a big disappointment for me, especially compared to DmC. It looked good though.
The animations looked far better than TLoU 2, but it's hard to compare because we don't know how the actual gameplay will end up.
this. again, you can tell who has and has not played a Ninja Theory game, and you can DEFINITELY tell who has and has not played Hellblade. On PC, specifically.
lol.
Ninja Theory != Ubisoft or anyone else.
Go play Hellblade or watch the 4K PC video linked a page or two ago and report back on how much worry is actually warranted. They certainly deserve as much trust as someone like Naughty Dog does in this department. Maybe more. After seeing Hellblade in 4K/60+ on my PC, I have ever expectation that this game will look as it does here in terms of graphical fidelity. Gameplay we'll obviously have to see how that feels when we have some of it. A game can look like a new standard but not necessarily be great to play. Hellblade was fine to play but you could see how the budget limited the gameplay itself a bit. I expect a bigger budget from MS will result in even better gameplay.
They did not say that.
It was "in engine" and developed in mind for XSeX.
That's the crazy thing; the original was astounding, but it wasn't really an AAA game. It was made on a limited budget with mostly a 20-person crew. They just were REALLY good at what they do.
It's confirmed real time.
Definitely feels next gen. The technological leaps are getting smaller, but you can still tell this wasn't on current hardware.
Anyone who has played Hellblade should not be surprised in the least.
People who are acting surprised in here simply haven't played Hellblade. It's pretty much just that simple. People can pretend otherwise, but nah...those people are pretty transparent.
Shhh...we're in the "it's nothing special", "gameplay sucks anyway" phase of the thread now.
If that is in-engine running in real time, that's mind blowing. I hope DF does a breakdown to show those who don't think it's a big step how big of a step it really is.
The pessimist in me is calling bull-shots but the optimist is eager to see how far it can be pushed as this is one of the first titles being shown and things generally leap quite a bit from the first titles shown.
The pessimist in me is calling bull-shots but the optimist is eager to see how far it can be pushed as this is one of the first titles being shown and things generally leap quite a bit from the first titles shown.
It looks better than hellblade 1 but not to the point where I can say that hellblade 1 doesn't look good anymore, that's diminishing returns imo
Honestly there are not of games thios gen that are ugly compared to last gen. It's a good thing!
Gameplay was a bit rough around the edges but I still have yet to finish the first one.
Hellblade already runs at 60fps on the X as an option, and obviously on PC. It has the option of running at an unlocked framerate on Pro.
The time has already been!
The first game has the best facial animation in any game ever as far as I'm concerned. Senua's Saga is going to melt faces.
I'm talking about base consoles and games targeting 60fps from the start
