Or we just let people enjoy the things they want to enjoy. How's that for a change?
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Ninja leaves Twitch, now streaming on Mixer exclusively
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Or we just let people enjoy the things they want to enjoy. How's that for a change?
i think that is to be expected but can ninja really be the catalyst that makes mixer popular? twitch is super dug in with gamers. way too many streamers there are not going to switch and upend their established income streams.
50 million! Jesus Christ that's excellent business. Seems like is already working with the App, everything going smooth. I just feel bad for the people who recently bought year long subs to his Twitch channel, but what can you do.
This still boggles my mind. Instead of teaching your young, impressionable audience that is ok to be in a relationship and still have opposite-sex friends, he just decided to ignore the chance and do nothing about it. I hope Microsoft enforces him to change his attitudes about it, I mean, that money can change a lot of people :P (For the record, I know it's not his job to be teaching people, that's what a parent should do, but still, when you are this popular and influential, it doesn't hurt to be a positive enforcement in your audience).
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If Mixer is willing to pay streamers to move, Ninja jumping ship probably makes a lot of other people feel better about a potential move.
People asked for a sauce on that number, though. To me it seems like a lot, to be honest, but people said the same thing when Ms bought Minecraft and see how that turned out.
This is pretty strange times tbh. I do wonder how much of an influence it could actually be, because right now this just sounds like Jay Z being exclusive to Tidal. 😂😂
Sure it will bring stans to the platform but i don't think the results will be bigger than they think.
Yeah. Maybe not "make mixer popular" right off the bat, but people will definitely start taking it seriously as a streaming platform. Its a beginning of sorts.
edit: already close to 17k watching a timer on screen
Kind of what I was thinking. I guess every little edge helps I suppose is what they might think.
I cant see people buying an XBOX for this reason, at least not a big enough number to offset the investment, but you never know I guess.
If there's a more unlikable person on Resetera, I haven't met them yet. Jesus. We get it, you hate Ninja. Let others who don't enjoy him.
I have no earthly idea why this entire situation interests me so much as I don't care about Fortnite and I've probably watched less than 5 minutes total of him (no real opinion of him), but it just fascinates me seeing the "business" side of streaming games. I actually think it makes sense from almost every angle.
From Ninja's POV: He is still a HUGE deal, but every Twitch metric you can judge him by he is MASSIVELY down from a year ago. He's not even coming in close to pulling in similar #'s from the past, he streams much less, and his ability is not "championship" level which he was considered "elite" before the competitive scene hit, so his "mystique" took a sizeable hit.
Honestly, his "future" on Twitch might have been ugly for him. He's basically a one-game streamer and he's not near the top when it consistently comes to drawing in viewers and his ability. Also, seems to be doing more "business" type of things so he has less interest in grinding it out all day on Twitch. Moving to Mixer, his #'s will hardly be held to the same microscope that they might have been at Twitch and he can do more "business-sy" type of things and be more of a brand ambassador (he'll probably be a huge component of the next Halo reveal/coverage/preview/etc). Also, probably got a buttload of $ for it, which is pretty savvy move at the "twilight" of the peak of his streaming career.
Microsoft/Mixer: I kind of look at this from a sports POV where a small market team massively overpays for an aging free agent. That makes it sound worse than it probably is, but the ripple effect of people talking about their platform and whatnot just from paying him is probably well worth it. The $ spent was more of an advertisement for Mixer rather than an expectation of what they expect to get back from Ninja's streams. Probably well worth it to make that splash and show people that there is an alternative to Twitch.
Twitch: I honestly don't think they care that much. Ninja is a "big deal," but nowhere near what he was a year ago and there's a never-ending supply of gaming prodigy 15-year-olds who will vie for his audience and probably a vast amount of his subs were Twitch Prime which obviously won't carry over to Mixer thus locking in people to the Twitch platform.
From Ninja's POV: He is still a HUGE deal, but every Twitch metric you can judge him by he is MASSIVELY down from a year ago. He's not even coming in close to pulling in similar #'s from the past, he streams much less, and his ability is not "championship" level which he was considered "elite" before the competitive scene hit, so his "mystique" took a sizeable hit.
Honestly, his "future" on Twitch might have been ugly for him. He's basically a one-game streamer and he's not near the top when it consistently comes to drawing in viewers and his ability. Also, seems to be doing more "business" type of things so he has less interest in grinding it out all day on Twitch. Moving to Mixer, his #'s will hardly be held to the same microscope that they might have been at Twitch and he can do more "business-sy" type of things and be more of a brand ambassador (he'll probably be a huge component of the next Halo reveal/coverage/preview/etc). Also, probably got a buttload of $ for it, which is pretty savvy move at the "twilight" of the peak of his streaming career.
Microsoft/Mixer: I kind of look at this from a sports POV where a small market team massively overpays for an aging free agent. That makes it sound worse than it probably is, but the ripple effect of people talking about their platform and whatnot just from paying him is probably well worth it. The $ spent was more of an advertisement for Mixer rather than an expectation of what they expect to get back from Ninja's streams. Probably well worth it to make that splash and show people that there is an alternative to Twitch.
Twitch: I honestly don't think they care that much. Ninja is a "big deal," but nowhere near what he was a year ago and there's a never-ending supply of gaming prodigy 15-year-olds who will vie for his audience and probably a vast amount of his subs were Twitch Prime which obviously won't carry over to Mixer thus locking in people to the Twitch platform.
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User Banned (1 Week): Rationalizing Sexism
This is his exact quote:
You can twist that into whatever you want but it's very sound reasoning.
Think Twitch is giving them a free sub to someone else for a month instead.
it's similar to nearly every broadcast production. I'd even go as far as sayning they are directly trying to emulate Howard Stern's move to Sirius but there are tons of examples of media personalities being wooed to move from one exclusive platform to another. I think your'e right that the parallel to EGS doesn't hold up because the complaint there (whether it bothers you or not) is that Steam was never exclusive in the first place but Twitch was and the norms are very different between stores and broadcast
User Banned (1 Week): Rationalizing Sexism
The quote is very reasonable.. No idea why ResetEra felt the need to twist into something toxic.
Media these days is a festering pile of click bait horseshit, but then again so are YouTubers with their own version of click bait.
What's wrong with that? I don't see any problem with his comment.
the highest streamer on twitch that isn't a company is currently at 30k
he just announced 370k subscribers though they are all free obv
Racist streamer Ice Poseidon who is banned on Twitch tweeted that he was going to try Mixer because Ninja was moving there and none other than Mixer's founder Matt Salsamendi Tweeted him in support and was even in his chat.
Ice is extremely toxic and racist and this is known very well by everyone familiar with the streaming scene and Mixer's founder is a fan? I don't know where the idea that Mixer was a cleaner platform but this is a very bad indication of a direction they might go. "Banned on Twitch for being a trash person? Come to Mixer!"
This probably deserves it's own thread tbh because Ice is actually one of the worst people around. The things he has said and done to people of colour I wouldn't even feel comfortable repeating and the dude gets an open arms welcome to Mixer?
BTW his stream had 3k viewers last night on Mixer while he chilled with his Cx crew while they spammed racist tts donations in the background. It was a shitshow.
Ice is extremely toxic and racist and this is known very well by everyone familiar with the streaming scene and Mixer's founder is a fan? I don't know where the idea that Mixer was a cleaner platform but this is a very bad indication of a direction they might go. "Banned on Twitch for being a trash person? Come to Mixer!"
This probably deserves it's own thread tbh because Ice is actually one of the worst people around. The things he has said and done to people of colour I wouldn't even feel comfortable repeating and the dude gets an open arms welcome to Mixer?
BTW his stream had 3k viewers last night on Mixer while he chilled with his Cx crew while they spammed racist tts donations in the background. It was a shitshow.
Agreed! It's a glorious mix of hype (winning) and schadenfreude (losing)...as a viewer you can't lose!
You have to manually renew a twitch prime sub every month but the regular sub auto-renews. I don't believe you can sub for multiple months at a time.
I admit I don't follow streamers... I never realized these streamers streamed daily. Ninja's schedule is 8.5 hours every day. It's not easy entertaining a crowd, much harder to do it daily for that many hours.
And those are MS accounts and their focus on having their account so you can use their services anywhere means that this move has probably already paid off much like Minecraft.
50 million dollars is about double what I actually thought the upper limit of this would be.
Good for him if it's true.
Good for him if it's true.
Halo: Reach was when he really took off. Nobody really knew him during the Halo 3 times.
I used the free sub but don't follow, because I don't want stupid notifications and I won't watch him regular anyways.