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Ninja leaves Twitch, now streaming on Mixer exclusively
- Thread starter Sotonian
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I'm too old to really care. Thank goodness!
I'm too old to really care. Thank goodness!
No shit. But why are we pretending this is a "win" and a "big deal" when it's just a blatant stunt to promote Halo and Mixer and he'll be back to streaming on Fortnite or whatever on Twitch sooner than later. Plus you said I was wrong when I said he wasn't going to Mixer full time and it seems like you're backtracking lmao.
Maybe for Halo: Infinite, but he won't come back to Halo 5 or MCC. At least I don't think so, because of his video that he made when he left Halo.
Yeah this is definitely a financial security move for Ninja. With his sub count dropping and when his sponsorships dry up you gotta have a back up plan.
Sucks for all his subs though. lol
Sucks for all his subs though. lol
Until it gets bigger and isnt any better than Twitch lol...
I swear this whole thing makes me feel like an old fogey; the thought of paying someone to watch them play videogames is bizarre.
4.6 million followers on Twitter
14.7 million followers on Twitch
22.3 million subscribers on Youtube
Holy shit.
I'm fairly sure there is some Halo Infinite marketing money in this too. He'll be THE Halo player when Halo Infinite launches.
I'm fairly sure there is some Halo Infinite marketing money in this too. He'll be THE Halo player when Halo Infinite launches.
I'm pretty sure he can make stupid moves at this point, because he doesn't actually have to work for another day in his life if he doesn't want to. And that was likely before the MS money.
Ninja just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about streaming culture (I'm an expert), but subscribers and stream monsters are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on Youtube where you can become successful by being an outrage artist. If you screw someone over on Twitch, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is by shouting out the latest subscriber.
What this means is the 12 year old public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to view Ninja streams, nor will they purchase any of Ninja's merchandise. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Ninja has alienated the entire 8-12 year olds market with this move.
Ninja, publicly apologize and cancel exclusivity for Mixer or you can kiss your prepubescent fanbase goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about streaming culture (I'm an expert), but subscribers and stream monsters are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on Youtube where you can become successful by being an outrage artist. If you screw someone over on Twitch, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is by shouting out the latest subscriber.
What this means is the 12 year old public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to view Ninja streams, nor will they purchase any of Ninja's merchandise. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Ninja has alienated the entire 8-12 year olds market with this move.
Ninja, publicly apologize and cancel exclusivity for Mixer or you can kiss your prepubescent fanbase goodbye.
It's also absurdly easy to stream to Mixer if you're on Windows 10.
Oh for sure. I'm just saying this may be a good lead-in to eventually stepping out of the spotlight if Mixer's audience doesn't end up being big enough for him to keep going with the insane schedule he's had to keep himself on with Twitch. Like Michael Jordan leaving the Bulls and winding his career down with the Wizards. :p
So now you call marketing blatant stunt? I guess all the publishers paying all streamers to promote their games during launch week are also a blatant stunt and you know more than them on how to promote their content i guess.
Ninja litterally said: "I'll go on Mixer full time" and Rod confirmed that he is leaving Twitch, what do you want more? LMAO
Pretty sure Ninja and Rod are more reliable than "insert random era users"
Backtracking? You either have reading comprehension problems or your are trolling
I think this won't move the needle enough for Mixer to be seen as a full blown competitor to Twitch not even Ninja in the prime of his popularity could do that alone, more people probably view streams for a single game on twitch than people view streams for the entirety of Mixer
Idk man I mean throwing money left right and center has to pay off in let's say r&d and ip's and tech, but influencers is a slipperly slope imo.
It sets a weird precedent. We probably should have seen this coming since they implemented Mixer.
The war of buying influencers.
If getting a Mixer app means people use their Playstation more instead of another viewing platform, then absolutely.
Can you imagine how dope it is for Mixer streamers to have grown their audiences tenfold in an hour?
The amount of money they had to have paid him to walk away from his audience has to be astronomical. Because it's WAY beyond just Twitch subs and ads.
Dude advertises uber-eats in-stream and sells branded gear at Walmart. So if he's going to be streaming to 1/10th the Audience, Mixer would have to pay for the lost endorsements too.
Pretty risky.
Although, I suppose he knows if it implodes he can market his grand return to Twitch in 12-24 months or whatever so eh.
Dude advertises uber-eats in-stream and sells branded gear at Walmart. So if he's going to be streaming to 1/10th the Audience, Mixer would have to pay for the lost endorsements too.
Pretty risky.
Although, I suppose he knows if it implodes he can market his grand return to Twitch in 12-24 months or whatever so eh.
At some point my hope is that, though it will never happen, twitch sees people leave and decides that you can broadcast in all spots. Their unique to them idea that you can't stream at the same time elsewhere is a killer. Especially for someone who has youtuber subs.
First thing I thought of. Ninja made his bones on Halo, it seems natural for MS to recruit him like this. He's going to be a big face for Halo Infinite, guaranteed.
That cartoon there
And those salaries are probably less than 1/10th what Ninja got
They would have to pay so much money to do this that it likely isn't just a short time period. People taking a vacation on twitch for a week usually dumpster their sub count, let alone leaving for months.
It's a big deal because he has a ton of reach and it shows a genuine commitment to actually compete with twitch directly, which has otherwise been pretty unopposed as the streamers engrained there can't try youtube or mixer.
Damn, no wonder he took the deal. Why not switch platforms if you are (relatively) tanking on your current one? Maybe it sparks some interest again for people in him. Curious to see what happens next.
It forces every agent involed to become more competitive, which in the long run, is good for the consumers.
This move was a necesity by MS.
The fact that this guy had nearly 300K subs back In March 2018 and now...... only 14K subs left... the decline is real... dam.
Seems like it now makes sense. Mixer promotes PlayStation games. They did something for God of War. No reason for Sony not to allow it.
Well, we pay people to write about them, produce content about it, is not that different imo. Be it for informative or entertainment purposes, is just a new way of revenue, and props to those who can cashing in.
