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Ninja leaves Twitch, now streaming on Mixer exclusively
- Thread starter Sotonian
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TBH I'd much rather have competition than not
Twitch's ridiculously lax moderation sucks ass and Mixer is much better about that stuff
They aren't owed shit? Why would they be?
edit: I guess if you mean people who bought a year of subs a head of time, ya they should. Though the thought of subscribing months in advance seems really weird to me. No point.
Which is really anti consumer, so I welcome this move. Mixer is way better quality wise, and viewers can engage with their streamers in game, in real time. So much opportunities.
This is an exiting time, now lets see how it plays out.
It's like Ronaldo in his Prime leaving a tier 1 club for some emirate football club, which is equivalent to a tier 4 club.
You mean by not having cloud saves? Lol
I'm not a streaming expert but most seem to think Mixers is a quality streaming platform.
Anecdotal as well of course, but I don't know anyone who uses Twitch. I only use Mixer and do not even have the Twitch app installed on my Xbox.
Twitch will be fine. Someone else will just take his spot. Not really hard.
What happens to his subs though? People who bought 12 month subs. He's screwed them out.
What happens to his subs though? People who bought 12 month subs. He's screwed them out.
I don't mean to throw fanboy accusations but what is in both of NInja's videos that proves I'm "dead wrong". I honestly don't care but it would help a lot to read between the lines here. He didn't do this on his own and it makes zero buisness sense to switch to Mixer full time. That first video is an advertisement and there should be no arguing against that. Only a fraction of his audience are going to use it. The rest won't care or watch someone else. So the only option there is that he is paid by Microsoft. Nothing wrong with that but we shouldn't frame this as a "win" situation because it's an advertisement.
Yea, if he negotiated his 'buyout' value months ago (this has probably been long in the making), he probably got more than he's currently worth. His sub count is outside the top 10 now, and he has a higher than most % of prime subs, the vast majority of his subs don't pay to sub.
Still a big grab for Mixer, but it was probably an overpay (knowing nothing about the actual terms, this is all me guessing obviously), and Twitch needs competition, so this is good. I could see a couple other big names headed there too, and definitley more smaller / middle names, getting 'Ninja' isn't gonna make them a twitch fighter alone.
This made me think of YTG too, but to be fair did any major streamer ever actually use YTG? They all stayed on Twitch because there was no incentive.
He got offered a ton of money and he's been on a pretty big decline for months. Probably a smart move. He's doing way more than just streaming.
Huge win for Ninja either way. If his audience follows, life continues for him as normal. If not, he can fade out and retire on whatever massive amount of cash he just got to do this.
Having more subs is great (and more money) but i'm pretty sure Ninja is well beyond that point. I'm convinced he probably makes 2/3x more than those guys with just sponsorships alone. His subscribers are just icing on the cake.
I mean, Mixer will probably need way more exclusive streamers, I doubt Ninja alone will be enough.
i don't understand. It's the same situation with Mixr now, why isn't that anti consumer too?
Twitch Partnership agreements really aren't anticonsumer as users aren't required to Partner with Twitch to stream on it.
Of course he was paid to move to Mixer, Twitch forces streamer to stream exclusively on Twitch, MS offered a big sum and he moved to Mixer.
Ninja started as an Halo player, MS knows this and they are trying to push the game and Mixer with Ninja.
There is no read between the lines, he signed a contract and that's it.
MS should've paid for the top three streamers or something cos kids aren't going to follow just him over..
MS laying the ground work for next gen and its online gaming/streaming community. Halo Infinite will be huge. I believe this is just one of many announcements to come. :)
You can't buy 12 months worth of a subscription on Twitch. Not sure where people got this from.
We won't find out until the future I guess. Microsoft has already invested tons in Mixer, and it's a great platform, better than Twitch I would say. But Twitch just has such a grip on the industry, that moves like this are necessary. Microsoft needs more content/streamers on Mixer.
So could it end up being a waste of money? Yea. Right now is it a good investment? I'd say with the money in Microsoft's bank it's a move they should definitely make.
'Twitch exclusivity is anti consumer, Microsoft buying out a streamer to stream on their platform exclusively is ok though'
???
Ninja is big player, but I think people overestimate his reach, he's only 11th biggest Twitch star in terms of subs (even when there was this big tournament recently he was like 3rd biggest Fortnite streamer). Anyways I welcome this news. Competition is good. I hope Mixer will sign deals with couple more names in top10 and some smaller channels. Even then they'll be fighting pretty steep uphill battle. Depending on what game they stream, viewers number for one streamer can even sway between 15-50K, suggesting to me that people seek content not specific creators - and they're trained to log onto Twitch for this kind of entertainment. Haven't watched anything in few months, but personally whenever I tuned into Mixer, I found the service pretty buggy and had to refresh the page pretty often and it's been like that for a long time - hoping they'll do something about that.
